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Left 5yo alone in a restaurant for 2 minutes

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Havanawinter · 16/08/2023 20:03

I was in a chain restaurant with DS today who is 5, 6 in November. After the waitress had taken our order I went to the loo, leaving DS happily colouring at the table. Before I left I told the woman at the table next to us (who had young children) that I was nipping to the loo and could she please keep half an eye on DS.

When I arrived back at the table literally 2 minutes later I was basically chastised by the waitress for leaving. “I didn’t know if you were coming back for him! I was so worried!” Which seems a bit far fetched considering I’d also left my phone, purse, keys and bag of shopping on the table. She huffed at me again and left, but I could see her taking to her colleagues across the room about it. That was the end of the whole thing but it left me feeling a bit weird, it never even occurred to me that I was doing something wrong but now I’m wondering if my behaviour was unreasonable? Honest opinions welcome!

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Maireas · 16/08/2023 21:56

FlissyPaps · 16/08/2023 21:55

No she’s not. She’s doing her job. Her job which requires her to be constantly moving between front of house and back of house. Wait staff aren’t child minders. Watching unsupervised young children shouldn’t be their responsibility.

Don’t patronise wait staff- it’s a disgusting mindset to have.

Exactly. She was obviously concerned that a very young child was left unsupervised. For longer than "two minutes", I would guess.

Olive19741205 · 16/08/2023 21:56

Edellondon · 16/08/2023 21:45

How is this sanctimonious, to highlight two cases in which young children have been left alone in public and were taken and abused by strangers.

You can look up records of the number of pedophilies in an area and that's just the ones who've been caught. Some people are just naive to it all but unfortunately I see a lot within my field of work

I'm sure you didn't think too much about it but please don't do it again

I'd be happy the waitress was looking out for your son and take this as a lesson and move on

There's your sanctimony.

bellinisurge · 16/08/2023 21:57

You should have taken the child with you.

Dolores87 · 16/08/2023 21:58

I wouldn't leave a 5 year old unless it was an emergency, and i think you were unreasonable asking the other Mum to watch your kid as its not her responsibility, i think by age 8 its ok, but the waitress over reacted.

Olive19741205 · 16/08/2023 21:59

Nevermay · 16/08/2023 21:46

this is what I would do, and what I would expect anyone to do - you don't leave a 5 year old unattended in a resteraunt!!

I am horrified you asked another diner to keep an eye on him what could she have done if he had run away? cut himself with a knife? Been abducted? got caught up in a fire alarm?

I left my 12 year old sitting alone in a cafe while I popped to the toilet once, and he got caught up in an emergency, and he coped, because he was 12, but it was very nasty indeed.

Fucking hell. The level of paranoia on here is off the scale. Cut himself with a knife? 'Horrified' at asking someone to keep an eye? 😂

Agii · 16/08/2023 22:00

No big deal. You know your child, he was fine.

CClaire · 16/08/2023 22:01

I’m sure I have done this with my son who’s exactly the same age. He loves little glimpses of independence!

AmyandPhilipfan · 16/08/2023 22:06

I don't think it's an issue for you to leave a 5 year old for a few minutes with another parent aware that you've left and are coming back.

I once got chatting to a lady in a sports centre and as she was so happy to see my baby I asked if she'd like to hold her while I went to the loo. In that moment I weighed up the risk (lady in 60s, waiting for her friends to come and join her in the cafe for a coffee after their aqua fit class) and decided there was a minuscule risk that she would harm or abduct my child. She was thrilled and sure enough she was sitting quite happily cuddling her when I returned a few minutes later.

Bunnycat101 · 16/08/2023 22:18

5 feels a tad too little. I’d let my 7yo but not my 4yo. My eldest is very responsible and my youngest a liability. Some of that is personality rather than age but my 4yo would not be out of my sight in public under any circs and can’t imagine being happy to do that at 5 with her.

RisingSunn · 16/08/2023 22:19

I would have taken my child with me.
The other diner could have been easily distracted by her own children and notice your child wonder off.

PurpleFlower1983 · 16/08/2023 22:21

I would have taken my child with me.

Elizabethwalton · 16/08/2023 22:22

ItsNotRocketSalad · 16/08/2023 20:08

The waitress is an idiot.

No. The waitress was not the idiot here.

BogRollBOGOF · 16/08/2023 22:22

At 5, DS was happier to be left to continue what he was doing than to be regularly lugged off with his small-bladdered little brother and jammed into a cubicle together.
He wasn't and would never be the type of child to be happy to wander off with a random person and would scream blue murder about being compelled to do anything not on his agenda for the day.

I'd let staff know, and there was never an issue with it. We tended to frequent the same places and be recognised anyway.

Goldbar · 16/08/2023 22:27

Maireas · 16/08/2023 21:56

Exactly. She was obviously concerned that a very young child was left unsupervised. For longer than "two minutes", I would guess.

The child wasn't left unsupervised. He was left in the care of another parent.

HarrietJet · 16/08/2023 22:28

Goldbar · 16/08/2023 22:27

The child wasn't left unsupervised. He was left in the care of another parent.

Hardly "in the care of"...

fullbloom87 · 16/08/2023 22:28

I wouldn't have personally left my child at the table but I do think we've all gone at bit to paranoid these days. My mum used to leave us outside shops in our buggies, that used to be the done thing as the prams wouldn't fit.
Being a mum these days is so hard.

Goldbar · 16/08/2023 22:28

RisingSunn · 16/08/2023 22:19

I would have taken my child with me.
The other diner could have been easily distracted by her own children and notice your child wonder off.

Well yes, she could, I suppose, but most parents aren't so lax when it comes to children they've agreed to supervise. I wouldn't take my friend's DC out for the day and left them wander off.

Goldbar · 16/08/2023 22:31

HarrietJet · 16/08/2023 22:28

Hardly "in the care of"...

The lady at the next table was asked to keep an eye. Presumably she agreed. I would definitely say that was "in the care of".

Had there been a fire, I would evacuate a child I'd been asked to keep an eye on alongside my own, for instance.

StarDolphins · 16/08/2023 22:37

HarrietJet · 16/08/2023 22:28

Hardly "in the care of"...

I would say it’s certainly in the care of. The other diner had agreed to watch over her son for a couple of mins.

Vandhanak · 16/08/2023 22:38

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ActDottie · 16/08/2023 22:38

I would’ve taken the child with me no way could I leave them alone under the supervision of a stranger!

IWasFunBeforeMum · 16/08/2023 22:39

Wouldn't have done that..nor left my bag etc.

WandaWonder · 16/08/2023 22:43

PollyAmour · 16/08/2023 20:09

I wouldn't have asked a stranger to keep half an eye on my child. I might ask them to keep an eye on my coat etc, perhaps. I'd take my child to the loo with me though.

Yes this is what I think too

ZiriForEver · 16/08/2023 22:45

I was walking to the school on my own (literally 5 minutes) as six yo, so I don't see the issue.
And yes, I would be ok to keep an eye, these small acts of support make the everyday life easier.

Seaswimmingforthesoul · 16/08/2023 22:51

I would never ever leave my 4 and 6 year olds on their own in a restaurant when I went to the loo. If we are out together just the 3 of us and one of us needs the loo, we all go. I also certainly wouldn't announce to a stranger on the next table I was doing so.
I think the waitresses reaction is odd, but I do think you're BU leaving him unattended at 5, yes. It only takes a split second for something to happen.

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