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Left 5yo alone in a restaurant for 2 minutes

567 replies

Havanawinter · 16/08/2023 20:03

I was in a chain restaurant with DS today who is 5, 6 in November. After the waitress had taken our order I went to the loo, leaving DS happily colouring at the table. Before I left I told the woman at the table next to us (who had young children) that I was nipping to the loo and could she please keep half an eye on DS.

When I arrived back at the table literally 2 minutes later I was basically chastised by the waitress for leaving. “I didn’t know if you were coming back for him! I was so worried!” Which seems a bit far fetched considering I’d also left my phone, purse, keys and bag of shopping on the table. She huffed at me again and left, but I could see her taking to her colleagues across the room about it. That was the end of the whole thing but it left me feeling a bit weird, it never even occurred to me that I was doing something wrong but now I’m wondering if my behaviour was unreasonable? Honest opinions welcome!

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HarrietJet · 16/08/2023 21:16

Doveyouknow · 16/08/2023 21:13

I probably wouldn't have asked the other mum but I would've left my ds at that age at a restaurant table to go to the toilet. I am surprised so many mums would take their kid to stand outside a cubicle while they go to the loo. Surely they are still on their own then so what's the difference.

The difference is they're less than 2 feet away?

MrFoxLovesComingToOurPlace · 16/08/2023 21:16

Pineapplewaves · 16/08/2023 20:08

I would have take my son with me and just told the waitress that we were nipping to the toilet and would be back. I would have left coats, colouring stuff on the table so other people knew someone was sitting there and just took my valuables with me.

I'd have said that would be the best option.

girlfriend44 · 16/08/2023 21:18

PollyAmour · 16/08/2023 20:09

I wouldn't have asked a stranger to keep half an eye on my child. I might ask them to keep an eye on my coat etc, perhaps. I'd take my child to the loo with me though.

How do you know they won't steal your coat, you don't know them. I would never ask a stranger to watch anything of mine.

zurala · 16/08/2023 21:20

theleafandnotthetree · 16/08/2023 21:11

11! Seriously? How on earth did you get a child to still go to the toilet with you at that age? Mine would have been mortified.

As for the 'my children are far too precious to me..' pass the sick bucket.

You can have the sick bucket if you life but I have five babies who never made it earthside so I don't take my kids for granted and yes, they are precious. I've been through too much to rush anything happening to them and 5 is far too young to leave them on their own.

PizzaPlease7 · 16/08/2023 21:21

Kitcaterpillar · 16/08/2023 21:16

Is it? I'd happily keep an eye on a quietly colouring child for a mum to pop to the toilet and I don't consider myself a particularly charitable person.

Good for you, not everyone is the same. I would have agreed out of politeness but I do not know the temperament of this child. Are they going to burst into tears if they realise mum isn’t next to them? Are they going to get up and try and find mum? I find it stressful enough dealing with my own young kids in a restaurant let alone looking after a random persons! Even if it is just for 5 mins. I would never put that responsibility on a stranger.

zurala · 16/08/2023 21:21

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 16/08/2023 21:03

I can't imagine taking my 10 yo to the loo with me. Are your dc girls? I wouldn't take my 10 yo ds into the woman's loo.

I've got one of each. We just go to the toilet at the same time, I don't see that that's weird. Women do it in clubs and bars all the time.

Kitcaterpillar · 16/08/2023 21:22

PizzaPlease7 · 16/08/2023 21:21

Good for you, not everyone is the same. I would have agreed out of politeness but I do not know the temperament of this child. Are they going to burst into tears if they realise mum isn’t next to them? Are they going to get up and try and find mum? I find it stressful enough dealing with my own young kids in a restaurant let alone looking after a random persons! Even if it is just for 5 mins. I would never put that responsibility on a stranger.

Sure, so equally not everyone will think it's a big ask.

WeightoftheWorld · 16/08/2023 21:23

I'm struggling to believe this is real! I have a five year old and no way would I do this, and neither would anyone else I know.

Olive19741205 · 16/08/2023 21:23

User1145 · 16/08/2023 21:16

It only takes a few seconds and your child is gone, never to come back. It's not worth taking the risk.

Where do you live? Sounds awful.

XenoBitch · 16/08/2023 21:24

WeightoftheWorld · 16/08/2023 21:23

I'm struggling to believe this is real! I have a five year old and no way would I do this, and neither would anyone else I know.

I can believe it. Saw a dad leave his similar age kid in a Costa to go shopping. Was just me, my friend and the barista there. Bloody stupid.

HarrietJet · 16/08/2023 21:25

Olive19741205 · 16/08/2023 21:23

Where do you live? Sounds awful.

You really think it's dependent on where you live? 🙄

PizzaPlease7 · 16/08/2023 21:25

Kitcaterpillar · 16/08/2023 21:22

Sure, so equally not everyone will think it's a big ask.

I didn’t say they would?! 😂 do you know how AIBU works? You give YOUR personal opinion. Of course lots of people wouldn’t mind..just like lots of people would mind.

StarDolphins · 16/08/2023 21:26

User1145 · 16/08/2023 21:16

It only takes a few seconds and your child is gone, never to come back. It's not worth taking the risk.

How likely is it though that a woman kidnapper is sat right there next to you in a restaurant? That kidnapper then has to drag a distressed child through the place, past the waitress who knows ‘the kidnapper’ isn’t the child’s mum as she saw the child come in with the kids real mum! I can’t think all this could be done in seconds.

liveforsummer · 16/08/2023 21:27

User1145 · 16/08/2023 21:16

It only takes a few seconds and your child is gone, never to come back. It's not worth taking the risk.

I've been leaving mine briefly while I pop to the toilet or whatever for years now. They are still here! 😆

stayathomer · 16/08/2023 21:27

I don’t think abduction would be my worry, it would be more my ds would wander off looking for me or get worried because of a stranger. I think it’s mad people are saying the waitress shouldn’t have even reacted, imagine your child wanders off or you didn’t come back and everyone’s saying to her ‘but you saw the mother leave and did nothing?’ We’ve all done something similar though op, you take risks sometimes, sometimes you’re luckier than others

greyhairnomore · 16/08/2023 21:28

I wouldn't have left the child , the purse or the phone on the table.

User1145 · 16/08/2023 21:29

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Towst · 16/08/2023 21:29

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 16/08/2023 20:16

I wouldn’t have left either the 5 year old, or my purse and phone!

Same.

User1145 · 16/08/2023 21:30

Olive19741205 · 16/08/2023 21:23

Where do you live? Sounds awful.

Earth, where 8 million children are kidnapped every year.

di2004 · 16/08/2023 21:30

The waitress is a jobsworth. Your son was colouring in, keeping occupied while you went to the loo. In my opinion you’ve done nothing wrong! x

Olive19741205 · 16/08/2023 21:31

HarrietJet · 16/08/2023 21:25

You really think it's dependent on where you live? 🙄

Yes obviously, according to the post I was replying to. Did you not understand it?🙄I've lived in a few towns/places and a child has NEVER been taken from a busy cafe/restaurant, with lots of witnesses around, cameras too probably, in the few minutes it takes a parent to nip to the toilet. It's a 6 year old not a 6 month old baby.

Youcancallmeirrelevant · 16/08/2023 21:31

MontblancTheSecond · 16/08/2023 20:07

Would totally have done the same.

Me too 🙋‍♀️ and i have done it. My 5 year old will also go to the toilet herself in restaurants

HowToSaveAWife · 16/08/2023 21:31

So you left a small child alone, with valuables, at a table in a restaurant while you were out of sight and told someone you don't know from Adam to keep an eye on your child? Just because she had kids? Are you mad?! A) you didn't know her and B) that's a hell of an imposition to put on a stranger probably juggling her own kids.

And unless you went to the loo to glance in the mirror, you were longer than 2 minutes.

It's negligent leaving a small child alone like that, colouring or not, but it's fucking madness to leave a child alone with valuables on display.

SuperNewMe · 16/08/2023 21:32

Olive19741205 · 16/08/2023 21:08

Yeah and the people berating the OP actually think they're superior parents. Someone said they wouldn't even leave their 9 year old to sit and wait. When my DC were 9, I left them home alone for short periods, 10 mins etc. to build some independence. They knew they could go to a neighbour if they needed because you know...community. Wait and see the outrage now because I left a 9 year old home alone.😂

Nobody's said anything like that at all.though 🙄
They just wouldnt act the same way and we're entitled to feel like that.
You might ne comfortable leaving your child with a stranger. Others aren't

StarDolphins · 16/08/2023 21:32

liveforsummer · 16/08/2023 21:27

I've been leaving mine briefly while I pop to the toilet or whatever for years now. They are still here! 😆

Me too! I must try harder🤣 (joking, before everyone starts ringing SS).

@User1145 what about getting fuel, leaving our children at nursery/school, kids parties, play dates etc? They could all be classed as dangerous if you’re that way inclined but as parents, we takes judged risks, we have to otherwise we bring up children not able to cope with adulthood.