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Waiting to have children

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puffincarpet · 16/08/2023 11:47

This is more of a question of opinion than an AIBU.

Women have a lot of plates to spin these days, balancing career, social life, family life, children. It's a lot, and women do bear the brunt of it all. Something has to slip for women, it doesn't usually for men. It is very challenging as often if you want to have children, your career does need to hit pause for a few years, or you battle on through and try and spin both plates at once (which can happen, but is tough). I wanted to open up with this because I am not criticising women that choose to wait to have children for any reason, whether they don't want kids yet, want to wait until they are older for career reasons, whether it is down to finances, support networks, childcare, whatever.

I think it is now more of a societal belief that having children below 30 is young. Not medically, just within society. So many people wait until they are 30+, going in to mid 30s, because they are told they are young. I am 30, expecting a baby, and being told I am a "young mum".

AIBU in thinking that people need to also take in to consideration the risks associated with becoming pregnant 35+ (including higher miscarriage risk, birth defect risk), as well as thinking about what happens if you don't get pregnant very easily?
TTC isn't a lightening quick process, it can take a while, and if you have complications or require fertility support, you might have a bit of a lengthy timeline ahead and at that age your body clock is ticking, whether we like it or not. I do know a few women that waited until they were in their mid 30s to start trying, because they felt like it was "the done thing nowadays", and in short they said they regret waiting as long as they did.

This is just an opinion thread. Ultimately it is up to every women what age they do want children, don't want children, there are so many things to consider including finances, support, and so on...but should people have more of an awareness of the full picture and possibilities, rather than society painting a picture of under 30s being young mums?

FWIW, the reason I am thinking about this this morning is that know of people that aren't planning on trying for children until they are in their mid - late thirties purely because they feel like they'd be classed as a young mum if they had children now. No other contributing factors, they have said they can afford a child, aren't bothered about taking time away from work. Want to be a mum, but don't want to be seen as a young mum. They're very open about this belief on social media too.

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lovewoola · 17/08/2023 14:43

I think this is why birth rates are declining world wide. Women being sold false promises that freezing eggs is the answer or Sue down the road/next door had baby at 40 and my Gran had one at 48 and that must mean so can I. Fertility doctors will tell you that pre age 30 is the sweet spot.

Nope, women are more educated & contraceptive is more common

Well some women are more educated...

Roselee1 · 17/08/2023 14:51

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lovewoola · 17/08/2023 14:54

There's definitely a muppet in the house! 😆

Goldencup · 17/08/2023 15:48

donkra · 17/08/2023 14:20

And of course women weren't done with breeding by 30 when they didn't have access to contraception, what a dumb fucking idea. Women have always gone on having babies into their forties. And let's not forget how many of those babies died before the age of 5. What fucking great days those were.

50 years ago was 1973 not many babies died before age 5 then. Also contraception was certainly available to married women.

Goldencup · 17/08/2023 15:55

puffincarpet · 17/08/2023 08:52

£850 for 2 adults and a baby should be doable no ?
I think you would also get CHB at this income point, maybe some UC- I am not sure.
Utilities what £200 ?
I would think food £350-400
So that leaves £200-250 for spends, of course you would need to be careful, free church baby groups and council swimming pool. Maybe 2nd hand clothes ( we were given loads) our cot was handed down, I was lucky my parents bought me the pram. A coffee out was a once a week treat, I took sandwiches everywhere.

I'm not sure who this is in response to but most rental prices for a 2 or 3 bed property are around 1k per month in my area minimum, if you have a mortgage it is lower but still somewhere around £700 - £900 depending on who you have your mortgage with. Utilities for the average household at the moment are somewhere like £200 - £300 I think.
These days £850 a month wouldn't even touch the sides. There's also petrol, car insurance and MOT, tax, etc. We have horrendous public transport services so having a car is essential, although it is better in other parts of the country.
Council tax for our band is £160 per month.

You are absolutely right I did forget Council tax. Although someone else pointed out you do get UC. I had my babies in London where you do not need a car. We both cycled or walked everywhere, perhaps another advantage of being relatively young ? I had a second hand PAYG mobile some of the time when off with the little ones, but not always (2004-2007) I can see that would be harder now.

It was tough- I didn't mind too much, there are ( or were) one a clock clubs all over the City. Also the South Ken museums are free (and warm). I tried to keep my spends to £10 pw ( taken out in cash) I guess that would be £15-20 these days.

Goldencup · 17/08/2023 16:01

And to be fair we had Surestart which was brilliant.

SouthLondonMum22 · 17/08/2023 16:19

Goldencup · 17/08/2023 15:55

You are absolutely right I did forget Council tax. Although someone else pointed out you do get UC. I had my babies in London where you do not need a car. We both cycled or walked everywhere, perhaps another advantage of being relatively young ? I had a second hand PAYG mobile some of the time when off with the little ones, but not always (2004-2007) I can see that would be harder now.

It was tough- I didn't mind too much, there are ( or were) one a clock clubs all over the City. Also the South Ken museums are free (and warm). I tried to keep my spends to £10 pw ( taken out in cash) I guess that would be £15-20 these days.

Which is exactly one of the reasons why I waited. I didn't want it to be tough financially and giving up my career was never a consideration so also had to think about expensive nursery fees.

Goldencup · 17/08/2023 16:24

I didn't give up my career either, but childcare for 2 took most of one wage.

Susuwatariandkodama · 17/08/2023 16:50

puffincarpet · 17/08/2023 08:48

where do you live? the average age of a FTP is still the low 30s so it's odd that the majority of your peers are 40 plus.

Cornwall

It’s the same in Devon, I know a lot of people who only had their first in their late 30s/early 40s but the majority had their first in their mid 30s.

My eldest is 12 and I’m 33, I’m the youngest mum in both my children’s friend circles, the other mums and dads are all in their 40s and 50s so I’ve never felt like I fit in anywhere.

Roselee1 · 17/08/2023 17:16

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I thought no women were having kids past ages 30 40 years ago 😂

MyInduction · 17/08/2023 19:02

puffincarpet · 17/08/2023 07:24

This thread has actually made me feel a bit more hopeful because it's made me realise that the pressure I perceive in my particular circumstances (bubble) is definitely not universal. I'm glad there are still places where having a kid at 28 isn't seen as verging on teen motherhood :)

Exactly my point. Our first was born when I was 27 and the general consensus is that I was a very young first time Mum. We were in a good position to have a child financially and own our home, which I am very grateful for as if we didn't work our asses off to buy when we did, we wouldn't be able to now, with the price of houses. I'm not suggesting that people have kids young and try to live off the state as people seem to be misinterpreting from this thread.

At 26 I don't consider myself to be a young mum. I think I'm a standard age to be a first time mum. My dd is a very young baby and I don't feel like a teen mum. I think early 20s and teens are young.

FlyingSoap · 17/08/2023 19:18

MyInduction · 17/08/2023 19:02

At 26 I don't consider myself to be a young mum. I think I'm a standard age to be a first time mum. My dd is a very young baby and I don't feel like a teen mum. I think early 20s and teens are young.

I agree with you but some people would say 26 is early twenties. There’s barely a difference between 22 and 27, depending on the individual. Everyone’s circumstances are so different

MamaBear4ever · 18/08/2023 08:38

It's not always about choice. Finding the right partner, realising who you thought was the right partner is in fact a d**k , and then only meeting the right person later in life. I wanted to be a parent from a very early age had my first child at 38!

Hubblebubble · 18/08/2023 11:32

I had mine at 26 and I very much felt like a young mother because of my socioeconomic demographic. I felt a little uncomfortable at my NCT group because I was one of the youngest. However, I also understand that my financial circumstances aren't typical for someone my age and that I was/am extremely privileged.

SunshineHello · 18/08/2023 11:34

I simply couldn’t have afforded children before I was 30.

It took me until I was 33 to afford a house. The cost of a nursery would have been unaffordable.

SueVineer · 19/08/2023 17:30

Susuwatariandkodama · 17/08/2023 16:50

It’s the same in Devon, I know a lot of people who only had their first in their late 30s/early 40s but the majority had their first in their mid 30s.

My eldest is 12 and I’m 33, I’m the youngest mum in both my children’s friend circles, the other mums and dads are all in their 40s and 50s so I’ve never felt like I fit in anywhere.

To be fair at my dds school (naice middle class area) there are quite a few mothers older than me and I had dds late 30s/ early 40s. I was surprised to find quite a few mums hitting their 50th birthday with kids at primary.

IAmAnIdiot123 · 19/08/2023 18:08

So you think there are hoards of women waiting to have babies just so they can be classed as geriatric (35+) ?

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