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AIBU about DD's gym knicker "shorts"?

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RiderGirl · 16/08/2023 10:44

DD is just turned 13 and has taken to wearing "shorts" that I can only describe as looking like 1980's gym knickers in length, the literally sit in the crease of her buttocks. AIBU in saying that she isn't allowed to step outside the house wearing them? We keep falling out about it but I think they're wildly inappropriate!! To make it worse she wears them with a large t shirt and it just looks like she's in a t shirt and pants 🙈

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Mrsjayy · 16/08/2023 11:14

PuttingDownRoots · 16/08/2023 11:07

I can remember campaigning not to wear those bloody things for PE at Secondary school (including cross country in local parks!!!)

I would tell her, bluntly that men will look and leer and maybe comment. Ultimately it is her choice and she shouldn't have to cover up because of men, but unfortunately the reality is that it does happen.

I remember something like this when I was at school the girls wanted to wear shorts for PE unstead of actual underwear. How times have .changed eh.

sandgrown · 16/08/2023 11:15

@PuttingDownRoots we hated them too at school particularly when we had to walk past the neighbouring boys’ grammar school !

MattRifesFutureWife · 16/08/2023 11:16

It’s fashion, leave her to it

PuttingDownRoots · 16/08/2023 11:18

I've horrified my pre teen daughters by showing them pictures of our PE kit... (bright purple pants with a white polo shirt tucked in!)

Mrsjayy · 16/08/2023 11:18

I'm sure it was for cross country where the teams were running through the .Village in their "pants" and the boys were wafting about in long shorts.

Freshair1 · 16/08/2023 11:19

It might be fashion but it's also hugely inappropriate. Isn't parenting meant to be about making sure children aren't making ridiculous choices? Leave them to it... Who is happy for a teenager to walk about with their bodies so clearly on show?

MattRifesFutureWife · 16/08/2023 11:22

It might be fashion but it's also hugely inappropriate. Isn't parenting meant to be about making sure children aren't making ridiculous choices? Leave them to it... Who is happy for a teenager to walk about with their bodies so clearly on show?

Its nothing new, teens have done this forever. I wouldn’t say Nike pro shorts are ridiculous, they’re just shorts. My daughter doesn’t wear them but I wouldn’t stop her, men need to act appropriately instead of girls changing their clothes.

WandaWonder · 16/08/2023 11:23

So you ban them so they end up being smuggled out in a bag and changed into away from home

ShowOfHands · 16/08/2023 11:24

I walked behind a 20 something year old woman for around a mile yesterday and she was wearing some of these but they were cut higher than the crease so that her bottom was on show. Her choice but every 7.5 seconds she pulled them down or picked them out of whichever crease they had become lodged in. It just looked so uncomfortable.

MorrisZapp · 16/08/2023 11:24

Teens have not worn the equivalent of pants outdoors forever. I was an eighties/ nineties kid and we wore combats and baggy jeans.

Mrsjayy · 16/08/2023 11:27

MorrisZapp · 16/08/2023 11:24

Teens have not worn the equivalent of pants outdoors forever. I was an eighties/ nineties kid and we wore combats and baggy jeans.

I am obviously older school year than you but they were required for PE when I was at school.

Andanotherone01 · 16/08/2023 11:28

Unfortunately fashionable ATM. My DD has the Nike Pros that look like gym knickers.

Mrsjayy · 16/08/2023 11:29

ShowOfHands · 16/08/2023 11:24

I walked behind a 20 something year old woman for around a mile yesterday and she was wearing some of these but they were cut higher than the crease so that her bottom was on show. Her choice but every 7.5 seconds she pulled them down or picked them out of whichever crease they had become lodged in. It just looked so uncomfortable.

This they are always at their short and pulling them out same with short,short skirts I don't understand nobody is forcing them to wear bumcheek covers

Tabitha005 · 16/08/2023 11:30

PuttingDownRoots · 16/08/2023 11:07

I can remember campaigning not to wear those bloody things for PE at Secondary school (including cross country in local parks!!!)

I would tell her, bluntly that men will look and leer and maybe comment. Ultimately it is her choice and she shouldn't have to cover up because of men, but unfortunately the reality is that it does happen.

Of all the things to consider, here, the male response is the least of them, in my view. It's not down to females to police what we wear because men can't control their own impulses to comment or leer at us.

Whilst I would agree that my own 'prejudice' towards young girls in very revealing clothing is also driven by thousands of years of patriarchial norms, I'm trying to change. Even as I would be tempted to tell my own daughter, if I even had kids, to wear something less revealing, I'd be chastising myself for doing so because it's ALL connected to the way women have been harrassed, assaulted and even murdered for the clothes we wear and the amount of flesh we expose.

There may also come a time when OP's daughter will feel very differently about her body as she ages so having the confidence and enjoyment of it now is a precious thing. OP, of course, can have their own opinion as her parent but I'd be mindful of the messages we send to young women over the clothing they wear because so much of it is driven by the subjugation of females as a response to the male gaze.

MattRifesFutureWife · 16/08/2023 11:31

Teens have not worn the equivalent of pants outdoors forever. I was an eighties/ nineties kid and we wore combats and baggy jeans

Cargo trousers are quite in now, I dare say they’ll wear them when it’s colder. For now it’s summer, lots of girls wear shorts and these shorts are in fashion. I was a teen in the 90s, I definitely wore my fair share of clothes that showed my body. 😮

Ninacampbelltiled · 16/08/2023 11:32

Oh to have the legs again for Nike Pros!

StopStartStop · 16/08/2023 11:32

All the young girls are wearing the kind of shorts you describe, near where I live, OP.

pontipinemum · 16/08/2023 11:33

I was at a funeral in a church at the weekend and a teen was wearing those. I really did think WTF!!! I could just about see her arse cheeks in

DH's niece (so I guess my niece) is 13 and wears them too, they are a touch longer but I still don't think they are appropriate. I've never seen her wear them to mass though.

MrsFiddle · 16/08/2023 11:33

I see loads of younger girls with these on and they all seem to pull up at the front as well so accentuates their fanny area. The legs of the shorts go into the creases of their thighs as it were and thighs bulge out. I see men look at these girls - of course they do. These may be fashionable but I certainly would not let my 13 year old out in them say into town or whatever . Youngsters need guidance on what is appropriate or not. We are not talking about the baggy PE knickers of years ago though! People can say all they like " well men shouldn't be looking" and "young girls should be free to wear what they want" blah blah. Guidance isn't a bad thing and we need to teach our children to be respectful to themselves.

MrsFiddle · 16/08/2023 11:34

Ninacampbelltiled · 16/08/2023 11:32

Oh to have the legs again for Nike Pros!

but they don't all do though, do they? Body positivity and all that....

screentimehelpplease · 16/08/2023 11:35

Ive just got back from my holiday and all the girls were wearing them. Quite a lot of arse on show! But I agree it's the fashion atm and I'd leave her to it.

Picklewicklepickle · 16/08/2023 11:36

Meh they’re not great but it’s fashionable, better with a big T-shirt than a cropped top. I wore similar length skirts at that age. Constantly picking them out of your bum crack would be really annoying but I wasn’t bothered about clothes being comfortable till I was in my late-30s!

*disclaimer my DDs are still little so I’m sure I’ll feel differently at that age

IClaudine · 16/08/2023 11:37

I would leave her to it. Will give har something to look back on and cringe about when she is older! It is a horrid fashion though.

sunshinesummers · 16/08/2023 11:38

My SD12 wears these, I think they're totally fine round the house, they look comfy! But she does have knickers about the same sort of size so personally I'm not a fan out and about year olds, DH tells SD to change if she's with us but her Mum buys them for her so it's a tricky one. Also she cycles and they ride up so you can see her bum or knickers and it's not a great look even with a big t shirt.

Middlelanehogger · 16/08/2023 11:39

My favourite flavour of feminism is the one that says it's empowering for teenage girls to wear knickers in public...

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