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To get rid of men from my life altogether

350 replies

montecarlo7 · 15/08/2023 19:18

I know this sounds a bit barmy but I've been doing a lot of reflecting recently and I realised that men have overwhelmingly brought negative things into my life.

I made a list of the male friends and relationships I've had in the past and I realised there were only 5 who were good men who brought something positive and there were many who harmed me. I'm almost 40 and single.

I've been raped in what I thought were safe relationships. I've been sexually assaulted on multiple occasions, both by strangers and male friends. I've been harassed and catcalled a lot. Two male friends (both partnered) I made in the last few years ended up sexually harassing me. Not the first (or second) time either. My (male) neighbour in my last home harassed me to the point I had to go to the police.

I've had partnered and married men make passes at me over and over to the point that I don't make friends with couples anymore.

The men I've hired in a business or work context have not brought much positive either.

I do have one close male friend who I trust. But I'm thinking that I'm going to have a policy of no more male friends and stop looking for relationships...I'm going to be single and accept it.

At one point I thought this has to be my fault that the men that show up in my world are not that great. But now I'm getting to age 40 I'm starting to reconsider that it's actually them.

I plan to put my energy into female friendships only. I'm in a very female centred line of work and only work with women which is nice. I stopped hiring men for other jobs e.g. around the house if I can work with a woman instead.

I gave up a hobby I had that brings me into contact with a lot of men.

I know women are not all perfect either, but here's the thing. I've never been assaulted, sexually harmed, harassed, catcalled, verbally abused, or had an unwanted pass made at me by a woman.

It's clear that some men are unsafe to be around and that's reason enough to avoid the whole lot of them.

What do you think?

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PurpleChrayne · 15/08/2023 19:22

Go for it! You'll be a lot happier.

rosetintedmemories2023 · 15/08/2023 19:30

I kinda agree..If I was ever tragically widowed at a young age, I would stay single cos not worth the risk
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PostItInABook · 15/08/2023 19:35

I have done the same. The abuse I have suffered from multiple different men in my life over the years just makes it not worth it to me anymore to engage with men in general. I think it’s actually incredibly rare to find a truly decent man that isn’t a manchild, controlling, lazy, misogynistic, mean/cruel or downright abusive nowadays. I just cannot be arsed to even attempt to deal with that sort of crap anymore.

I do have a couple of male work colleagues who I generally work well with who appear mostly good but I wouldn’t call us friends. And I’m sure there ARE truly decent men out there but frankly they are in a minority and I just can’t be bothered anymore. I don’t hate men…..but I would say I’m completely indifferent to them now.

Lkahsvtv · 15/08/2023 19:38

I’m really sorry you’ve had this experience; while I’ve had men treat me not nicely in intimate relationships I’ve not had this with male friends or in a work context at least any more so than women.

Midnightfeasts · 15/08/2023 20:03

Yes I feel exactly the same. I've had to change my phone number that I've had for years because idiot ex kept harassing me and ringing on withheld numbers. Funnily enough on the same day I changed my number I went by myself to a local furniture showroom and bought furniture. Had to sort it all out with the male salesman and felt happy and confident I can do this stuff on my own without a partner. (As ex destroyed my confidence) I get home and the furniture man starts sending me texts with loads of emojiis and kisses. I felt so awkward.
Now I have a new phone number I've decided no idiot men are having it. I won't have to worry about blocked calls and inappropriate texts. I have peace of mind.

moofolk · 15/08/2023 20:16

Separatism FTW!

Seriously, why not? Just keep any men you know at arms length and revel in the joy and beauty of close relationships with women.

montecarlo7 · 16/08/2023 06:40

Thanks all for your comments.

I do have one male friend who is a good man so I will keep him around. But otherwise looking forward to more peace and stability in my life without the upsets that destructive men seem to create.

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Augustus40 · 16/08/2023 07:35

Yes I would much prefer a female gardener and female handyman but hard to find. That said they aren't problematic the ones I use but personal preference means I would definitely prefer a female.

HashBrownandBeans · 16/08/2023 07:40

My mum did literally this 30 odd years ago. She loved my dad, when they split she knew there was no point trying again so didn’t. She loved her own space and was incredibly independent and houseproud. She passed away in her 60s and was perfectly happy alone, men just annoyed the fuck out of her.

My DH is utterly fabulous, but if anything were to happen I’d not bother again.

Ilovegoldies · 16/08/2023 07:45

I actually made this decision well over a year ago after realising that the only time I was truly calm was when I was single.
I did actually meet someone since but I told myself that the second I get any feelings of unease or conflict he'd be gone. So far so good.
I was happy alone and I'd be happy alone again.
I will never put myself through any relationship drama again. I'm worth more than that..

Xrays · 16/08/2023 08:24

HashBrownandBeans · 16/08/2023 07:40

My mum did literally this 30 odd years ago. She loved my dad, when they split she knew there was no point trying again so didn’t. She loved her own space and was incredibly independent and houseproud. She passed away in her 60s and was perfectly happy alone, men just annoyed the fuck out of her.

My DH is utterly fabulous, but if anything were to happen I’d not bother again.

My Mum was the same (although my Mum and Dad got divorced when I was very young). She just found men annoying and didn’t like their selfish nature. I have been married 15 years now but if for some reason I ended up alone I’d be quite happy to be on my own and wouldn’t want another relationship. (And I really do mean that as I was previously a single parent prior to meeting dh so know I am quite happy on my own). Men just think completely differently to women, completely different mind set and so noisy / loud / messy.

KajsaKavat · 16/08/2023 08:32

When k neared menopause I cut men out of my life. I no longer have any j heresy in anything sexual and I am sick of always having to be on guard in case the conversation takes a funny then or it looks like they might be getting the wrong idea.

I used to think you could be friends with me (and I still do think that you can) but I’ve realised that saying no is always going to be the woman’s job and it’s frankly not worth it. .

TherapyRocks · 16/08/2023 08:34

I feel like this, I have been single for 5 years, earn well in a flexible job & the kids are old enough that they don’t need childcare so I am very self sufficient.

I have female dog Walker & cleaner who help me to keep everything running smoothly.

I cherish the female friendships I have & know I have support if needed. Would prefer to hire women for any services I need but it’s not always possible.

Seriously can’t foresee the need for a man for anything in the future.

YukoandHiro · 16/08/2023 08:36

Augustus40 · 16/08/2023 07:35

Yes I would much prefer a female gardener and female handyman but hard to find. That said they aren't problematic the ones I use but personal preference means I would definitely prefer a female.

I have an amazing female plumber. Love her! Love that my two daughters see both male and female tradies in the house

montecarlo7 · 16/08/2023 08:51

YukoandHiro · 16/08/2023 08:36

I have an amazing female plumber. Love her! Love that my two daughters see both male and female tradies in the house

Wish there were more female tradies here!

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montecarlo7 · 16/08/2023 08:56

Thanks all for your messages. I thought I'd get loads of comments telling me to cheer up and men are not that bad 😁

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JamSandle · 16/08/2023 09:00

It seems fine to me. Do what makes you happy.

Annaishere · 16/08/2023 09:01

I’ve been single for 5 years and haven’t yet wanted to be with anyone. I don’t know if I ever will and it feels fine.

LookingForFreeDoughnuts · 16/08/2023 09:01

It's just logical to avoid them. You can't tell who is dangerous or will cause trouble, so why take a risk?

MollyRover · 16/08/2023 09:02

From the thread title I thought you would be mad but great idea, a lot of what you said rings familiar and I think I will join you.

LyricalGangsta · 16/08/2023 09:04

In the last 5 years or so I have developed a general dislike for men overall.
I have also been catcalled, assaulted, raped in a relationship, used, had passed made by attached men and then blamed etc
I get openly gawped at in public even though I have developed a very strong "resting bitch face" from about the age of 12 when it all started.
I try and avoid places there will be a lot of men. I had to go to B&Q for something yesterday and would avoid aisles I need if there was a man in it until he was gone which means it takes so much longer - not because I think he will attack me but because I hate the feeling of them looking at me and the need they seem to have for eye contact - some will stare until they get it and it's just odd and uncomfortable.

toomanyleggings · 16/08/2023 09:04

You’re not wrong. I’m married and my husband is good but outside of him I don’t trust any men. I don’t even accept friend requests on Facebook from male acquaintances

Porageeater · 16/08/2023 09:04

Yeah feeling a bit like this myself at the moment. H had behaved like an arsehole towards me and dd but I have been absolutely overwhelmed by the love and support shown to me by female friends. I do have a gay male friend and a DB I love

TomatoSandwiches · 16/08/2023 09:07

If my husband passed before myself this is exactly what I would do, I don't blame you, go for it.

montecarlo7 · 16/08/2023 09:18

LookingForFreeDoughnuts · 16/08/2023 09:01

It's just logical to avoid them. You can't tell who is dangerous or will cause trouble, so why take a risk?

Exactly!

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