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Made MIL cry?!

818 replies

Didntmeanto6 · 12/08/2023 10:16

I have always had a clash with my MIL because I find her controlling and she often tries to undermine me. My DP (8 years) sees her every day in the morning and she was telling me that she sometimes makes him a packed lunch 🙄 I said he is a 43 year old man I'm sure he can organise his own lunch, she said "yes but me I love my son" (emphasising with her voice that it must be in contrast to me).
I began to lose my temper a little so I said "do you warm some milk for him too?" and she said "listen it's simple, I am the first woman of his life", and I said "true but I will be the last".
Then she started crying and ran out of the room.
Now DP is saying that was insensitive of me because she lost her husband 6 years ago.
I am considering telling him he needs to deal with this situation and tell his mother to back off.
What do you think? In case it's relevant we are all from the same non UK European country

OP posts:
PuzzledWatermelon · 12/08/2023 11:39

OP, I can see where you are coming from - years of snide remarks from your MIL and you have now retaliated. Unfortunately the words you said may have been a bit too harsh. What does your DP say when he hears his mum say these kinds of comments to you? Does he stand up for you?

Your MIL can dish it out but can’t take it - I don’t think you will get an apology, and you won’t apologise for what you said, so now you have to ask yourself if you are prepared to go the next few decades being civil to MIL for your partner’s sake or do you go no contact with her, which will severely affect yours and DP’s relationship?

It sounds like they are extremely close, seeing each other every morning - this isn’t going to change. Do you put up with that and just grey rock the MIL? That’s your only option really if you want to stay with your partner. And in future don’t make any more comments about being the last woman in his life, it doesn’t put you in a good light at all. Just ignore any more comments, it’s the only thing you can do if you want to stay with your DP. Good luck.

laveritable · 12/08/2023 11:39

What you started was so unnecessary!

Tourmalines · 12/08/2023 11:40

Didntmeanto6 · 12/08/2023 11:28

Also many people here saying "oh well BE CAREFUL because with this attitude he might leave you".

If that's what happens over this then I'm okay with that. Maybe he can move in with MIL and she can be happy that she has her adult son at home as a pet

The more you speak , the more vile drips from your mouth . He needs to get away from you, not his mother. You are a nasty piece of work .

Lovegood · 12/08/2023 11:41

^ agree

Blossomtoes · 12/08/2023 11:41

Didntmeanto6 · 12/08/2023 10:47

I think the only person being ridiculous here is a woman of 60 years who goes for an argument and then cries when she gets it, come on! DP is telling me she is hurt, this is typical manipulation from her. I am considering texting him to say I expect ab apology from her. I refuse to be like her family members, always bending to her.

She didn’t go for an argument, you did. Why do you care if she makes him lunch? It’s no skin off your nose.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/08/2023 11:41

xXJoy · 12/08/2023 11:36

Tune out all the attempts to shame you for having a reaction to her competitiveness. just ask yourself one question, is he worth it? maybe he is, but if he's not worth it, that doesn't make you ''a nightmare''.

Very few women who leave their exes give them a glowing character reference. If the relationship ends, the reason will be (from your pOV) that he was too enmeshed with his mother. That's your perspective and you're entitled to it. Nobody has to plough on.

The other question she should ask herself before tuning all us ‘shamers ’ out, is whether her MiL is the competitive one, or whether it’s just that she’s responding to regularly being put on the defensive by the OP - who, if you read her original post, actually started this particular confrontation and then seemed surprised when it escalated out of control.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/08/2023 11:44

PuzzledWatermelon · 12/08/2023 11:39

OP, I can see where you are coming from - years of snide remarks from your MIL and you have now retaliated. Unfortunately the words you said may have been a bit too harsh. What does your DP say when he hears his mum say these kinds of comments to you? Does he stand up for you?

Your MIL can dish it out but can’t take it - I don’t think you will get an apology, and you won’t apologise for what you said, so now you have to ask yourself if you are prepared to go the next few decades being civil to MIL for your partner’s sake or do you go no contact with her, which will severely affect yours and DP’s relationship?

It sounds like they are extremely close, seeing each other every morning - this isn’t going to change. Do you put up with that and just grey rock the MIL? That’s your only option really if you want to stay with your partner. And in future don’t make any more comments about being the last woman in his life, it doesn’t put you in a good light at all. Just ignore any more comments, it’s the only thing you can do if you want to stay with your DP. Good luck.

Given the information that the OP has posted about this particular confrontation - which as far as I can see, was entirely down to her - what makes you think that the years of alleged snide remarks from MiL, are just the result of constantly being put on the defensive by the OP, who doesn’t seem to have any problem resorting to nastiness.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/08/2023 11:45

Rosscameasdoody · 12/08/2023 11:44

Given the information that the OP has posted about this particular confrontation - which as far as I can see, was entirely down to her - what makes you think that the years of alleged snide remarks from MiL, are just the result of constantly being put on the defensive by the OP, who doesn’t seem to have any problem resorting to nastiness.

Sorry, that should read ‘ Are ‘not’ just the result of being constantly put on the defensive.’

Hooplahooping · 12/08/2023 11:46

My therapist likes to remind me ‘there are no mother in laws in nature’ meaning we are literally not evolved to deal with this bullshit relationship and it’s set up to fail… it always makes me laugh.

but they’re here to stay for most of us. Unless they’re being actively harmful we gotta suck it up. Recognise that they grew up without a lot of the language of psychology + self actualisation that we did - and their ‘babies’ are the ones that have to set the boundaries.

mine drives me MENTAL - she still refers to me and my husband as ‘the children’ despite me repeatedly asking her not to. She says ‘well done’ to me for performing the most basic life tasks as if I’m 4 (‘well done for remembering to load the dishwasher’) Sometimes I want to strangle her. But I scream in to my pillow. Text my sister. And then let that shit go. Because she’s crazy, and she won’t change but she loves us + her grandchildren so hard. And she’s lonely. I don’t want her to feel un loved too.

but f*^€ she’s annoying. I’m sorry yours is being annoying. I agree that for the sake of family peace, it’s probably worth a ‘worry I spoke hot - I didn’t mean to be unkind + I regret making you feel bad’ - even if you stand by what you said entirely!

Anxioys · 12/08/2023 11:47

@Hooplahooping - great post. I think it is spot on.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/08/2023 11:47

Mischance · 12/08/2023 11:31

You need to laugh all this off and let it wash by you rather than saying cruel things. She makes him a packed lunch? - tell her that is kind.

I am a widow - I live on my own - I love to do kindnesses for my AC when I can. Until you find yourself in this position you have no idea how very hard it is and how women like me spend their lives putting on a brave face so as not to upset others. - almost apologising for existing. It is hell. Once we, like you, were central to our family's life - now we are peripheral. Now don't misunderstand me - that is life and I accept it and do not try to make it otherwise or blame any9ne for this. I lead a busy life and fill it with things I enjoy, and things that are useful to my community - but believe me it is no substitute for having a real role.

Have some compassion and kindness. She has done nothing wrong. One day, this will be you .........

This, all day long.

DriftingDora · 12/08/2023 11:48

Why did you bother posting, if you are so certain you are right? What was the point?

Conversation goes:

"I did this...and this happened"
Other posters then give their views
You say "Why shouldn't I have done what I did, I was perfectly justified" etc. etc. etc.
Yawn.

Didntmeanto6 · 12/08/2023 11:49

@Inkpotlover
if my DP spent every morning round at his mum's I would find it hugely annoying, even if it was just for half an hour

I'm happy I'm not the only one to feel this but what I can't understand is WHY should it be so annoying?

OP posts:
Hooplahooping · 12/08/2023 11:50

Anxioys · 12/08/2023 11:47

@Hooplahooping - great post. I think it is spot on.

Thank you 😊

Didntmeanto6 · 12/08/2023 11:50

@DriftingDora
Why did you bother replying if it makes you so bored?

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mealtickety · 12/08/2023 11:51

sorry, what's a non UK European Country? Never heard this before!

AllOfThemWitches · 12/08/2023 11:53

Oh look at everyone here pretending OP was the unreasonable one. Classic mumsnet.

mealtickety · 12/08/2023 11:54

Didntmeanto6 · 12/08/2023 10:31

@Sparklfairy
Why should I just roll my eyes? She is the one who started down this path. I don't believe just because she's his mother I need to listen to:

  • her insinuating I'm a bad woman for not making this adult man a lunch
  • her insinuating she loves him more

...without responding

HNRWT- why does he see him mum EVERY MORNING??!! Does she live across the road? Even then...

Anotherchristianmama · 12/08/2023 11:54

AllOfThemWitches · 12/08/2023 11:53

Oh look at everyone here pretending OP was the unreasonable one. Classic mumsnet.

What are you talking about? Mumsnet mostly hates MIL's

Didntmeanto6 · 12/08/2023 11:54

Well I'm considering having a conversation with her. I don't plan on giving her an apology, but maybe there should be a frank discussion, if we can be respectful about it.
For some reason though I'm not sure this will work. I just have the feeling that in a way, she likes things like this.

OP posts:
monsteramunch · 12/08/2023 11:54

Didntmeanto6 · 12/08/2023 11:49

@Inkpotlover
if my DP spent every morning round at his mum's I would find it hugely annoying, even if it was just for half an hour

I'm happy I'm not the only one to feel this but what I can't understand is WHY should it be so annoying?

Surely if you find it annoying you must know on some level why you find it annoying?

If you liked her as a person would you still find it annoying she sometimes makes him lunch? Or that he sees her for a bit each day?

It seems like you fundamentally dislike her and you're projecting that dislike onto every interaction, ready to view things as combative and escalating them instead of looking at them objectively.

As I said upthread, she absolutely didn't start this incident. She made him lunch. She's happy to. He's happy for her to. You made a snide comment, continued to escalate it and finished with what was a genuinely nasty comment that she took the way many of us did (that it was about the fact you'll still be around when she dies) and instead of saying "oh shit ok I didn't mean it like that, but I can see now it might have come across that way" you responded to people by accusing her of that reaction being self centred.

You're massively projecting the fact you dislike her into every interaction you have. It's toxic and not good for you.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/08/2023 11:54

AllOfThemWitches · 12/08/2023 11:53

Oh look at everyone here pretending OP was the unreasonable one. Classic mumsnet.

It’s not pretending. It’s a majority opinion based on the information given in the OP’s posts. Or are we all wrong ?

Inkpotlover · 12/08/2023 11:54

Didntmeanto6 · 12/08/2023 11:49

@Inkpotlover
if my DP spent every morning round at his mum's I would find it hugely annoying, even if it was just for half an hour

I'm happy I'm not the only one to feel this but what I can't understand is WHY should it be so annoying?

This is me guessing, but perhaps it's because sometimes you want to sit and have a cup of tea and a chat with your partner before the day starts – or go back to bed! – but instead he's dashing out the door to go to hers. Because if he doesn't go she gives him grief about it. Because you've asked him on occasion not to go and he insists he has to, putting her needs before yours. Because know it probably won't change when you have kids. Because it's as irritating as fuck that it has to happen EVERY day.

VictoriaVenkman · 12/08/2023 11:55

You either acknowledge internally she is top dog or you end the relationship. You are both in a pissing contest, she will win.

Topseyt123 · 12/08/2023 11:55

I can see how many of her comments are irritating, but your comment that you "will be the last" woman in his life was unnecessary and spiteful. It clearly refers to a point in time when you believe she will be dead. Who wouldn't be hurt by that!?

For that you should apologise because you really went too far.