So many child haters here

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So many threads on here seem to attract the same sort of answer along the lines of
-In my day we'd have got a smack. Never did me any harm. Give em a clip round the ear.
-kids today are entitled shrieky brats
-kids should stand for adults
-kids shouldn't be allowed in restaurants

Yet often those same posters are the first to call "agism" when people disagree.
Why do so many people hold such contempt for kids?
I mean I know kids can be annoying but honestly you could say that about any group of people. Plus we were all kids once 🤷

God, after the day I've had, I don't even like my own!

Joking kind of

Tbf I have met one or two kids who just give off a dodgy vibe.

I think there's a general rise in childfree adults, both due to delay in people starting families and falling fertility generally, and to be honest it can go hand in hand with a degree of selfishness.

Oh fuck off with such ridiculous statements. The bad behaviour I see is children being allowed to dominate spaces and disturb others with noise, inappropriately. It's bad parenting, and for you to deflect bad parenting onto blaming other adults is just a further example of bad parenting.

Personally I think people like my mother choosing to have children which she then proceeded to abuse is far more selfish than someone choosing not to have children

You can accuse someone of making something up

Or you can use the handy little search tool and bring up the 100s of posts about smacking and discover that in fact just because you havent seen it doesn't mean it doesnt happen

@ichundich go on tonight's thread about children giving up their seats. I've seen plenty of threads were posters have done the usual "smack on the legs/clip around the ear never did me any harm.

If your kids are entitled shrieky brats and the kind who are a nuisance to others in restaurants then you are the problem. Not other people.

What if they’re parents?

@fitzwilliamdarcy It was tongue in cheek, but parents - absolutely! Preferably before they give birth.

I’ve noticed this too.

I’ve lost count of the times someone has said about their 13 year old having an attitude and a poster has told them to kick them out!

I think there are a lot of women on here who had children but didn’t actually want them.

If you used that language about any other groups, you'd get banned

That sounds absolutely terrible. I’ll stay childfree, selfish and happy thanks!

@DatumTarum Eh? Probably applies to anyone who uses abusive language about anyone really, unless they can't control themselves. Child phobia would probably benefit from therapy, though banning from public spaces is probably not necessary, and I take that back.

I once knew someone who told me their child was only ever naughty once. I'm happy to believe the child (who I only knew as an adult) was well behaved on the whole - certainly as an adult he had a placid, content personality. But I'm not sure I can quite stretch to believing only naughty once!

Feral, bratty, uncontrollable children can be traced directly back to 'gentle', ineffectual, pathetic parenting.

Honestly I genuinely haven't seen kids being badly behaved very much. Certainly not more than a few years ago anyway.
And to the PPs saying people who accuse others of not liking kids tend to have little brats themselves - I don't actually. My kids re pretty well behaved for the most part. I haven't actually seen the same disdain for kids in RL to be fair. It's mostly on MN. And I think tends to be from a certain age group, who think things should go back to the good old ways of their youth. When children were seen and not heard.

I've never felt as a parent that people hated or were even intolerant of my children. However I have always taken care to be respectful of other people's rights not to be inconvenienced or annoyed by them. If you take the attitude that adults must continually give way to your children, put up with irritating behaviour from them and generally behave as though their own rights and wishes are secondary to your children's, you probably are going to meet with some push back, which will skew your perception.

People behave like this online yet feel qualified to critique others. Curious!

I like kids. Just not badly behaved kids.

If they can’t control their child, they seek a label to justify their poor parenting

@Jifmicroliquid this is the biggest load of shite I've probably ever read on here.

I have a overly well behaved 10 year old daughter, not a bias thing at all because sometimes I wish she was a bit more confident.
she has never once been in trouble at school / she would not even read the word stupid out loud in the 13 storey tree house book because it’s a bad word 🤣
yet on her the other day I was told I was in the wrong for letting her make noise jumping under water do catch sinkers on holiday 😂😂 ridiculous !

Why do so many people hold such contempt for kids?

Because so many behave appallingly it seems. Just today I was in Boots and a 12/13 year old boy wasn’t looking where he was going and cannoned into me (nine months pregnant). I’d already stopped as I’d seen he wasn’t looking where he was going. He told me to ‘get the fuck out of the way’ and his mother (?) gave me a filthy look as she passed. I laughed at them because, come on.

Some kids (and their parents) are twats. That’s just a fact of life.

Lots of lovely kids around. You don’t notice those ones because their parents are doing the job properly.

I was in a supermarket cafe recently and a large family with several children of various ages came and sat close by. I immediately braced myself for the inevitable screaming and bad behaviour but not a jot - perfectly well behaved and sat and ate their lunch nicely chatting at normal levels.

I said to the mum what lovely children she had but like a good parent didn’t really seem that surprised or interested in a random stranger’s opinion. And good for her - as parents we should expect good behaviour and raise our children accordingly. It should be the norm not a bloody miracle!

Definitely people have rose tinted glasses with their own kids and I feel that's a large part of the problem on threads like this, I don't feel we are in any way a paragon of behaviour or parenting skills like most people we do our best which is why you cut others a bit of slack generally.

Maybe it's a MN thing as I don't come across the hugely intolerant adults or the "feral entitled brats" all over the show? Odd.

I admit though, as a general rule, other people’s kids can get in the bin. I’m not interested in them and I’d rather not interact with them. I do feel irked though if their behaviour is extremely poor or they’re allowed to dominate a situation, such as interrupting adult conversation (I have friends who keep their kids front and centre. I avoid any social occasion involving their children as they are monsters now).