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AIBU to be pissed off at sick colleague

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RoseElla · 10/08/2023 12:31

This might sound bitchy, have name changed and will change some details so it’s not too outing to the person, as I’m just looking to vent and see if it’s reasonable as my other colleague is so OTT sympathetic to the point it winds me up.

colleague has been working at company about 18 months. Has had around 10 episodes of sickness with the last one being a week long. The company don’t seem to be following regular sickness rules (we go by scoring) and she is so far over the threshold it’s unbelievable. She has said it’s all for the same stomach issue and it’s under investigation and our manager has basically told HR they don’t ever need to flag it.

im just shocked tbh never have I had an employer be so unbothered. In my last jobs they would be trying to get her out and I get that sounds harsh but it affects every one, especially me. We are in an office role so we are sitting down all day I’m sure there could be some adjustments made just so the workload is taken off me a bit, even doing some from home but it’s just nothing.

AIBU to think 10+ episodes is silly in 18 months? Or at least silly for a company to still entertain it?

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TregunaMekoides · 10/08/2023 13:15

Your colleague's health condition is absolutely none of your business.

The only concern you should have, over and above being a decent human being and hoping she recovers soon, is how work are resourcing your workload. If it's unmanageable then you need to provide evidenced examples as to why this is the case and request that your boss find some additional resource to cope with the increased workload.

It says a lot that your focus in this is the attempt to imply that your colleague is somehow getting special treatment.

MillWood85 · 10/08/2023 13:16

You won't get a supportive answer on here, OP. MN users are 100% on the side of the sick employee, and never the poor sods left dealing with their workload.

I'm a small business owner and am always so saddened by these answers because the impact of someone being off is huge - no matter what the reason behind it. Someone with repeated ongoing absences is a nightmare to manage, and you do need to be seen to be "dealing" with the issue to the rest of the staff.

Sisterpita · 10/08/2023 13:20

@RoseElla YABVVU regarding your colleague. However, YANBU about the stress you are experiencing.

It is none of your business why your manager and HR are taking the approach they are. Like pp I suspect it’s a reasonable adjustment for a disability.

As you are stressed that is an issue for you to refer to your manager. Fill in the questionnaire then arrange a meeting with your manager.
https://www.hse.gov.uk/stress/risk-assessment.htm
https://www.hse.gov.uk/stress/help-for-workers.htm
https://www.hse.gov.uk/stress/assets/docs/returntowork.pdf

Work-related stress and how to manage it: stress risk assessment - HSE

Employers have a legal duty to protect employees from stress at work by doing a risk assessment and acting on it.

https://www.hse.gov.uk/stress/risk-assessment.htm

rand0mstuff · 10/08/2023 13:23

YABU.

If you cannot handle the extra workload, you should flag it up with HR to put in extra personell. It's HR/management you should be angy with not the colleague who seems to battle a long term health condition/disability 🤔

TregunaMekoides · 10/08/2023 13:24

No, the OP is not likely to get a supportive answer to being pissed off at a colleague with a chronic health condition. And rightly so.

Directing any ire towards the manager who is clearly not willing to accept that the OP is experiencing difficulties as a result of the absences would have perhaps garnered more support.

Being annoyed at someone for being ill is pretty crappy.

fairycakesandtea7 · 10/08/2023 13:25

RoseElla · 10/08/2023 12:42

I mean she is quite open about it and has said they aren’t sure what the issue is and are still investigating so I really don’t think it’s an actual disability or something more than I’m not aware of. I’m definitely not trying to be ableist it’s just quite frustrating. She started with the episodes only a few months into employment and I asked her then how management have been and she was very much “well I disclosed the ongoing investigations on my pre employment forms for occupational health so not much they can do I suppose” I think she doesn’t seem worried about the inconvenience at all. I’m not trying to be horrible I’m just stressed and on my lunch break of yet another busy day

It doesn't matter whether a condition is yet diagnosed, it can still have an adverse impact on someone and I imagine after 18 months it probably is doing.
You have absolutely no clue whether she is worried about the inconvience. She may be really concerned about her sickness absence or she may be just trying to focus on her health and not worry too much about work.
Keep out of it and just concentrate on your own work.

TheCountessofLocksley · 10/08/2023 13:25

RoseElla · 10/08/2023 12:55

Manager told me I was just fortunate the work load hasn’t been up to the amount it can be for one person and so yes they accept I’m taking on the amount she would be doing; it’s still perfectly reasonable for one person but then everyone else gets to do less as they have 2 people working on it

So the crux of the matter isn't really your colleagues sickness but the fact you're feeling hard done to because you perceive others in the company to be doing less work.

If you believe and can evidence to your manager that you are doing more work than is feasible for one person then you might get somewhere in your discussions. As it is you're moaning that Team B have 2 people to do the work you are doing which your manager has already said is an acceptable workload for one.

Chronic illness is awful, be glad you work for an understanding employer as you never know when you might need that compassion.

AttentionToDetal · 10/08/2023 13:30

Echoing YABU. If you don't agree with what the workplace is doing to accommodate your colleague no one is forcing you to stay...

As an aside, I was diagnosed with an IBD as a teen, it's been fine for the last 20 odd years. Then last year suddenly had terrible symptoms which has meant test after test after test. Plus a number of small procedures. Only now one year later have I been started on a course of meds that are helping - these things are not very often sorted overnight!

WiggelyWooWorm · 10/08/2023 13:32

To sum up...

  1. You are expected to do an amount of work that your management believe would be reasonable for one person to complete and don't seem to suggest you disagree with this
  2. However other teams have two people doing that same workoad and so are able to slack off to a degree
  3. This is unfair and somehow this is your sick colleague's fault?
theyareonlynoodlesmichael · 10/08/2023 13:34

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Whataretheodds · 10/08/2023 13:36

You're angry in the wrong direction. If you have an issue with your workload, speak to your boss. If you are unclear what the relative roles and responsibilities are for you and this colleague, speak to her and try to get something on paper to take to your boss if you can't agree it between you. If you are unclear on cover arrangements, speak to your boss.

fdgdfgdfgdfg · 10/08/2023 13:37

It's absolutely nothing to do with you.

If you think you're overworked, and management don't, that's between you and management and isn't your colleagues problem.

Wind your neck in.

Stressed2023 · 10/08/2023 13:38

If your workload is still less than expected capacity there’s nothing for you to complain about. If you keep drawing too much attention as to how little you have to do it’s likely you’ll be given more permanently on her return from sick.

Spottyness · 10/08/2023 13:38

It can take years to get diagnosed. I had horrific issues with “stomach issues”, turned out to be Crohns, took a little over a year to get diagnosed and then 3 months for treatment to kick in. My workplace were supportive and didn’t hold me to standard sickness policies. None of my colleagues were told why as it’s none of their business

pumpkinspice87 · 10/08/2023 13:40

HR and management are respecting the confidentiality of this employee by not telling you the full story as to why they are off sick. Quite frankly you have zero need or right to know. However, management should be ensuring that work loads are being managed effectively so that one member of staff being off sick does not mean added stress and over time for the rest of the team. If the work load is not being effectively managed by the senior team that is not the fault of the employee who is off sick.

JugglingJanuary · 10/08/2023 13:40

amusedbush · 10/08/2023 13:14

Crikey, you'd shit a brick if you heard how long it took me to get a diagnosis! I have a genetic condition that doesn't show up on blood tests, scans, etc. It's diagnosed through physical examination and elimination of every other possible cause.

GPs would grudgingly offer a blood test (telling me they couldn't do anything before they had recent blood results) but it would inevitably come back clear so they would close the case. I was finally referred to an NHS specialist but they rejected the referral on the grounds that they were busy and my (then suspected) condition "has no cure anyway". I paid to go private and was fobbed off with "it's probably just fibro" (spoiler: it isn't).

It took 13 years of periodically asking for investigation and a further 2 years of pushing, chasing and insisting to finally get a diagnosis. You're naive to think it's a quick process for every condition. Also, my symptoms were the same before diagnosis so I was just as disabled as I am now. The label doesn't change how I feel day to day.

@amusedbush

would you mind saying what it is?

I'm exhausted with being fobbed off.

billy1966 · 10/08/2023 13:42

RoseElla · 10/08/2023 12:55

Manager told me I was just fortunate the work load hasn’t been up to the amount it can be for one person and so yes they accept I’m taking on the amount she would be doing; it’s still perfectly reasonable for one person but then everyone else gets to do less as they have 2 people working on it

OP,

Focus on yourself and how this is impacting you.

Email your boss your concerns over YOUR workload and how often you are having to manage the increase.

Mention that you are finding the increase in the workload more stressful as it has gone one.

You need a papertrail because this appears that it will be a long term thing.

Her health is her business.

But if your workload is doubled then the impact of it becomes your problem

Start getting into exactly how you are being affected.

Your manager telling you the extra work load and its impact on you is "irrelevant" is completely unacceptable, and that needs HR involvement.

Is your manager telling you that your health and wellbeing is unimportant and less important than that of your colleague?

This is not acceptable.

Your colleagues health issues and the work load is for management to manage, not to foist on you and dismiss your concerns.

Start a paper trail.

ohsoso · 10/08/2023 13:43

Oh my God this thread has riled me!

I’ve been in your colleague’s shoes. I’d much rather have been at work than in hospital or perpetually unwell, worrying about my career prospects, my team members.

It’s not your colleague’s fault your work load is too much! That’s on your manager. Don’t blame your colleague.

MXVIT · 10/08/2023 13:45

OP - you're pissed off at the wrong person. If your workload is really increased then be pissed off at the company for not putting plans in place to cover this LTS.

Not the poor woman who clearly has a condition far more serious than you think (or have a right to know tbh)

TallulahBetty · 10/08/2023 13:45

Been there, it's shit for her and shit for the rest of you. She'll eventually go on grounds of capability, but it could take some time.

JenWillsiam · 10/08/2023 13:45

RoseElla · 10/08/2023 12:34

Why would it be if there is no diagnosis and just an ongoing issue that’s being investigated? I feel for her but there’s sick policies for a reason even if sicknesses are completely legit and it’s just affecting the company and work load of others

how do you know there is no diagnosis? Also diagnosis can take a LONG time.

JenWillsiam · 10/08/2023 13:46

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Bravo.

Ohhhhhhhhh · 10/08/2023 13:47

Your title says you are pissed off with your sick colleague. Maybe instead you should be pissed off with your manager for not providing appropriate cover for days she's off.

I would have faith in your HR department and assume that she has a serious health problem that you don't know all the details of.

Mikimoto · 10/08/2023 13:51

Is your surname Parker, initial N.?

Dibblydoodahdah · 10/08/2023 13:52

Have you any idea how long it takes to get a diagnosis OP? I have been having issues since April and first saw my GP in early May. I am no nearer a diagnosis. I’ve got a MRI next week but the consultant has warned me that might not show what the issue is and other tests are likely to be needed. That’s private. I was told that the wait for a NHS consultant appointment was over a year. I haven’t had any time off work but that’s mainly because I WFH and lie down when the pain is really bad.

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