Statement by the Chair of the Conservative Party

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"If they don't like barges they should fuck off back to France". 30p Lee Anderson of course, not the BNP. Not the National Front or whatever their current name is. The Chairman of the Conservative Party. Supporters must be so proud. What a statesman. So Churchillian.

Insults won’t go far. But you seem rattled 🤷‍♂️

You’re a Labour voter / supporter yes? Do you think boat numbers will go down if they get in?

A kebab once jumped up and leapt at me and forced me to eat it. Fearful things kebabs.

It would be a nice change if the UK government made its own citizens its priority, rather than enriching its donors, many of whom pay very little tax in the UK.

It’s all a distraction whilst corrupt politicians asset strip the country.

They’ve already had shedloads of money for doing fuck all. It would be far more sensible to spend it on fast tracking processing and integrating successful applicants quickly so they can start working and paying taxes. And they call the Tories the party of fiscal competence! 🙄

I don't think anyone should be rattled by Conservative asylum policy given the glacial process to doing anything of effect.

Look, when Labour publishes its manifesto I will be happy to critique its immigration policy. We all know politicians waffle and spin in interviews.

You seem to think we all imagine Labour is going to solve all the issues around immigration. I don't think any of us think that.

Speaking for myself I want to see an end to the cranking up of xenophobia and an end of the needless spite and cruelty towards people who want to make a life here, whether they are asylum seekers or economic migrants. The only way to even begin to make that a reality is to chuck the Tories out of office.

Ok so you heard the outline this morning and think they’re just waffling. I doubt it will change to deterrent though as that will take a harsh system.

The media will continue to report figures if they rise, countries in the EU have growing tensions with similar. This won’t go away it will get worse, unless a harsh system is used. If people recognise climate change they’ll see this is only going in one direction and the press isn’t state owned, it will be part of discussion.

What is this harsh system you are talking about?

If people recognise climate change they’ll see this is only going in one direction and the press isn’t state owned, it will be part of discussion

It is a shame Sunak doesn't get this.

I’m paying for it now , as are you. If we can fund wars, mass destruction, murder, genocide, then we can fund the opposite.

As I've said before'push the stop the boats thing' - it's stopping people looking at the 700,000 figure of allowed in legally. My own view is many will come in via jobs such as care or HGV or similar and once all sorted will disappear off the lower paid work radar into family businesses etc . The UK is notoriously shit at monitoring or keeping tabs on anything. The boats thing is a minuscule situation compared to the real issue and everyone and his mother flying in legitimately. The thing with the EU was that many came and went and did a few years here and there- those non EU flying in legitimately with families in tow have no intention of returning to wherever they came from at some point- unless it's USA, Japan, Australia, Canada , NZ etc.

Look up systems that have worked. Google mass displacement too.

It's great. We've already given Rwanda £140 million. For nothing.

But perhaps we might have used that here or are the optics of the barge better for the Home Sec's career after the next election

Can you give links to systems that have worked? Or explain mass displacement in your own words?

This 'google it' is just lazy

It’s still not going to make discussions on growing migrants go away. We either deal with increased arrivals and tension that brings or we get prepared as others already are. Labour and their supporters are very much opposed to anything bar making the system easier, which will lift numbers just due to removing obstacles.

How many people will acknowledge their role I wonder when we have those higher numbers

It’s not just lazy it’s disingenuous. The only Tory defender who ever presents any evidence is Clav. Whereas the thread is littered with links from people arguing the other way.

If we want talk about migration how about...

Students
Temp workers

And the numbers post Brexit? Because these things are possible to limit in law. Yet we don't.

Not reading is lazy. Just do basic stuff. Countries in pp have already been mentioned. Just type it in and read it’s really not hard.

That's unfair. Another poster did share a link to an interesting article about the law surrounding asylum seekers, that showed as we all know that the right to seek asylum does not depend upon the method of entry into the UK or whether or not one has transited other countries on the way here.

If it is not that hard then why don't you give an example of a successful harsh system?

Scroll back to @Remembermynamealways post. It’s already on the thread.

For those that are worried about the cost of living genuinely why would they vote for Labour where they are guaranteed higher taxes and bills??

At least the conservatives are likely to slash them as soon as possible.

And probably more hair brained schemes like fuckingfuming suggested like increasing the living standards everywhere in the world.

It beggars belief.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/long-term-international-migration-flows-to-and-from-the-uk/

Which of the countries in the first barchart that has a smaller foreign born population that the UK would you like us to examine?

I think you need to do a bit more googling on mass displacement too tbh.

Especially around topics like the potential global impacts on food systems and supply chains or on how the UK population won't be immune to being displaced themselves.

Probably not a great idea to pull up the drawbridge and go full on isolationist when it might be you that needs a new home in future.