Statement by the Chair of the Conservative Party

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"If they don't like barges they should fuck off back to France". 30p Lee Anderson of course, not the BNP. Not the National Front or whatever their current name is. The Chairman of the Conservative Party. Supporters must be so proud. What a statesman. So Churchillian.

On the basis of what evidence are you predicting a hung parliament. The latest polling suggests that is quite an unlikely outcome - about 4% chance, admitedly that is double the chance it was in June.

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html

If the national swing was the same as in the Uxbridge by-election then Labour would be close to a majority (depending probably on how many seats they picked up in Scotland, which may become clearer in the autumn).

I don’t think it will happen like that somehow!!

Listen to BBC iPlayer there’s an outline today. Scroll back for time of report.

Presumably those that think it does, think of John Major, Kenneth Clarke and Michael Heseletine are lifelong Labour supporters?

they don’t have the wet woke brigade to contend with though

True, Australia has some way to go yet in becoming a more inclusive society. But it'll get there.

We’re currently trying very hard not to do the same. Labour and supporters are trying very hard to oppose it. And Lib Dems etc will be the same

It’ll come back to bite us big time. Unless people are climate change deniers.

I would even say if Labour continues to sit on its hands as they are doing now we might see a surprise slim majority win for the conservatives. We have over a year to go.

Starmer is one of the most uninspiring leaders we have ever had, Labours answer to Theresa May - he has no direction, policy or fixed moral compass whatsoever.

All life long remainers

When GE night finally comes around, I look forward to all the Tory supporters exploding with rage and spite.

And life long Tories. Until now.

@Remembermynamealways every school, hospital, surgery and housing list bursting at the seams

Under which government(s)? The ones that have been in office, or the ones that...haven't?

If Starmer has no policies, how do you know what his immigration policy is @Remembermynamealways and that it will be a disaster?

Are you confusing Starmer with Johnson whose own senior advisor used to call him the shopping trolley for his ability to veer all over the place.

Starmer is one of the most uninspiring leaders we have ever had, Labours answer to Theresa May - he has no direction, policy or fixed moral compass whatsoever

I actually agree, apart from the no moral compass part, and firmed up policy direction is yet to be seen. But he is still steets ahead of Sunak, who comes across as an overgrown public school boy who doesn't know how to act naturally with the general public.

It is really an amazing thing that if you cut funding to public services, public services get worse.

Labour may well win and some will feel concerned, others may leave, some will think everything will be solved. It’ll pale in comparison to the disquiet amongst non ultra loyal voters who realise mass movement is getting worse. It’s inevitable.

The die hard Labour supporters on these threads will go down with them to the end. The average voter will wonder why numbers are getting higher.

Streets, even.

Rwanda is quite an unstable country, it could easily tip back into civil war, look whats going on the Sahel or in Sudan right now?

So the authorities in Rwanda might agree to take a few 100 but not 10s of '000s, it would destabilise their country, which simply hasn't the means to care for these people, they wont be building the sorts of accommodation we've seen on TV, it'll be tented camps behind razor wire.

"Disappear Elsewhere" what do you mean by that? back into the hands of the traffickers? or killed/abused/slavery?

You lot have been in power for 13 years... why haven't you fixed it?

I don't think a single person on this thread thinks a Labour win will solve everything. It will be a long and arduous journey to turn things around.

God how dumb is it to reference Australia where there is no application of the ECHR which is the thing that will destroy Braverman's policy on asylum.

80 per cent of Conservatives think her policy will not work. So they are smarter than the Home Secretary.

@jgw1 well you may well be right but, even tho I'm sick and tired of being punched in the face, I'm still going to vote for the Punch In The Face party candidate, because I am very professional and normal, and I am also scared of kebabs. Or something.

When you say turn things around do you mean the outlined policies from this morning will decrease numbers crossing?

It is not really a labour or tory issue and both of them have failed utterly in stopping both illegal immigrants and stopping the massive net immigration - now our highest in our history ever. People in poorer countries are a bit richer so can pay traffickers and they have the internet even in remote places so can see what it looks like in the West and earth's human population is now the highest in world history ever - 8 billion people. These are new and different times for migration and couple that with climate change and many nation states are going to have to be much tougher in makng a priority their own citizens, however cruel that might seem to some.

@CloudyMcCloud well they would have to be going some to have bigger numbers than the Tory's- see my earlier post about every mother in creation being let in by the Tory's. and it being very very well hidden at the moment. I am seeing it with my own eyes- every day. EU citizens jumping through multiple hoops- rest of the world- come on in!!