Statement by the Chair of the Conservative Party

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"If they don't like barges they should fuck off back to France". 30p Lee Anderson of course, not the BNP. Not the National Front or whatever their current name is. The Chairman of the Conservative Party. Supporters must be so proud. What a statesman. So Churchillian.

No it isn't clear, you are saying that people cannot claim asylum in acountry of choice and I asked you where that is stated.

Maybe this helps

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights (Article 14), which states that everyone has the right to seek and enjoy asylum from persecution in other countries. The 1951 UN Refugee Convention (and its 1967 Protocol), which protects refugees from being returned to countries where they risk being persecuted

Don't bother, I used to write your scripts. They don't work on me.

Yes I absolutely agree that 13 years of being governed by an increasingly incompetent, corrupt and xenophobic government has left the UK in tatters.

Do you think that if 0 asylum applications had been made in the year ending March 2023 instead of 75,492 asylum applications (relating to 91,047 people) , we would be in less of a fucking state?

The government is making a certain group of people the scapegoat and the as usual some people buy into it. It is a trick as old as time.

Why does the choice have to be only between a tent and a dangerous fire risk barge?

Why not an efficient asylum processing system so they can move on into their own homes?

Well, focus on the reasons people come to the UK, our unregulated labour market, the success of the trafficking gangs, inc propaganda, Brexit (no returns agreement or a seat at the European table) no ID cards.... we are doing absolutely nothing about any of these, why not?
Apparently many gangs operate with impunity here in the UK !!!

But most of all, long term, we need to work together internationally, to improve conditions in their home countries (where possible) so people don't want to leave, slashing Foreign by over half isn't very wise.

But again, not doing this either.... just more talk and hot air, no wonder latest polling puts Labour 22pts ahead of the Cons.

Did you mean to reply to that post? Why is talking about disquiet growing in the EU problematic?

It is an issue, one which politicians will find difficult

What a truly ridiculous statement. Have you ANY idea of the trillion pounds we spend on the NHS?

We could forget the costs of hotels and unsafe barges and leave them under a sheet of plastic like they do in France?

We have agreed to accept refugees through international treaties. So of course we are obligated.

Fucking hell, the lack of understanding of the asylum system is breath taking.

I agree with him.

Why does the choice have to be only between a tent and a dangerous fire risk barge?

Did you read that link from the Fire Industry Association at 19:03 Twyford ... ?

Yours is the ridiculous statement, we don't spent a trillion on the NHS, its about 130 billion and per capita, way lower than say France or Germany does.

We could also shoot them, put them in pits, run down the boats in the channel, that would deter them..... do you want to be the first to do any of this?

...or do we treat them like human beings, exactly like us?

Yet again, even the Home Office doesn't claim the majority are economic migrants. Please just check one or two facts, it's tedious that you keep posting lying propaganda.

I never understand why people like you think that upholding the law is so controversial. If right wing activists don't believe in that, don't you think that's a tad worrying?

The only thing that's breath taking is that some people can't see how these so-called asylum-seekers are working the system.

I wish some people on these threads would wake up and smell what they're shovelling.

I wonder what 30p Lee makes of Sunak's masterful plan to drive up the numbers of asylum seekers further in the coming years?

There is no persuading some posters minds, but others who come passed this threads might benefit from it being explained that asylum seekers are not illegal.
Helpfully a poster on another thread shared a link that explained just this a few days ago.

You haven't even understood that this is not contempt for people with a different view. It is despair about people who have different facts and determinedly close their eyes to the truth.

You really, really need to look at your own relationship with reality, it's not at all close.

Tory scum. No other way of putting it. If he can be offensive, so can I. Fuck the lot of the baiting cunts.

Labour can kiss the election goodbye unless they take a strong position on this, most people can see the corrupt people traffickers offering a taxi service to young men exploiting the kindness of this country for exactly what it is.

In the interests of factual accuracy about 180billion a year is spent on the NHS, so less than a fifth of a trillion pounds.

There will always be people who play any system to benefit from it. Look at how our own government has worked various systems in recent years to line their own pockets.

But anyway, the majority of asylum seekers are genuine, evidenced by that fact that 73% of initial decisions made in the year to March 2023 have been grants of protection, meaning they have been awarded refugee status or humanitarian protection.

The only people shovelling shit on this thread are the 30p Lee apologists. And what a particularly xenophobic, cruel and ignorant flavour of shit it is.

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html

But it isn’t limited to 500 asylum seekers on a boat, you are comparing apples with pears there because there are a lot more than 500 currently being housed in hotels.

Nobody is making up the numbers. We’ve actually spoken to the hotel staff and seen the procurement contracts. £210 is a minimum figure, once you add in compulsory insurance premiums, the cost rocket.
And the figures going to increase next year as well with all of the imminent employment tribunal's coming up of hotel staff that haven’t been protected adequately, and assaulted and sexually harassed on these premises.

As for those suggesting this is Grenfell 2 waiting to happen, how utterly disrespectful to the dead lost in those terrible circumstances.

Opinion polls suggest your view may be mistaken.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2023/08/08/public-lack-confidence-conservatives-stop-boats

We actually have an awful lot of empty properties around, e.g. in the form of disused offices.

The point is that we have to house genuine asylum seekers anyway, so that can't be part of the argument. So it makes much more sense to put in place an efficient asylum processing system so that we can weed out the the non-genuine claims and deport the people concerned. That way we don't have to put them in hotels, barges, or anywhere.

What on earth is wrong with that? Why aren't people asking the likes of Anderson, Braverman et al why that hasn't happened in the last 13 years?