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to not invite them on this day out

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QueenBlue · 08/08/2023 10:03

My parents and sister live a couple of hours away from me and my husband so we don't get to spend much time with them or they with our child who is now 5.

They are coming up tomorrow and have arranged to take me, my sister, my nephew and my DC out for the day to an amusement park. We rarely do anything as a family so looking forward to it.

The thing is my husbands older two children are with us tomorrow (I'm off and DH is working from home in the morning but off in the afternoon). This is outside of their normal time with us due to the school holidays so my parents didn't know when they booked to come but in any event they would prefer it to be just us anyway as they don't get much time with our child and my SC can be quite full on and argumentative.

DH is pulling his face that I don't want to or haven't offered to take SC and has said he can work flex in the evening instead so he can come too with them. I've told him no and to just let my parents spend a day with me and our child.

Aibu not inviting SC and DH along? For context they are 9 (SD) and 11 (SS). Our child is 5 and my nephew is 8.

My parents and sister will be coming back to ours after we've been out to have a cup of tea and stuff and say hello before heading home so will see them later on.

OP posts:
Neonyellowfish · 08/08/2023 18:09

ludocris · 08/08/2023 16:26

And you don't think it's a problem that your parents and sister hardly spend any time with your SC?

Why would op parents and sister want to spend time with her step kids? They are not their family.

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 08/08/2023 18:09

Why are so many women so horrified at the thought of a father and his kids spending a day together on their own?

Stompythedinosaur · 08/08/2023 18:10

HesDeadBenYouCanStopNow · 08/08/2023 16:48

You sound like one of those people that brings uninvited siblings to birthday parties.

It is ok for a parent to do something with 1 child only. Particularly when that child is much younger (or older) than other children.

You'd do it in a non blended family, not drag teenagers round pepper pig world, not take a 5 year old to an older movie. It's ok to do it in a blended family too.

Thanks for that mature response.

Choosing to take a favourite child to a treat and exclude their siblings is nothing like taking an uninvited child to a birthday party.

You are trying to use a straw man argument to justify why an adult should be able to do what they want despite it clearly being hurtful to the dc in their family.

matchamate · 08/08/2023 18:10

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 08/08/2023 18:09

Why are so many women so horrified at the thought of a father and his kids spending a day together on their own?

I KNOW! It's so stupid. Like BUT THEY WONT HAVE A WOMAN THERE! HOW WILL THEY COOPE

Neonyellowfish · 08/08/2023 18:11

ludocris · 08/08/2023 17:55

@SpainToday if your brother and sister and all the kids happened to be in the same house together and your brother and his kids said 'right toodle pip, we're off to the funfair now!' it would be a little jarring for the kids I feel. Even more so if one of the children going were your step-sibling and one of the adults was your step-mum.

Dad can then make the effort to go out with his kids then at the same time..

ludocris · 08/08/2023 18:12

@Neonyellowfish their daughter's step-children are not their family? OK. You're VERY conservative in your definition.

Cucucucu · 08/08/2023 18:12

matchamate · 08/08/2023 18:10

I KNOW! It's so stupid. Like BUT THEY WONT HAVE A WOMAN THERE! HOW WILL THEY COOPE

That’s not an issue at all , the issue is a woman making sure her SC are left behind when clearly they would love a day with the sibling on an amusement park . You can paint it as you wish but the reality is her SC are part of the family and if she is not happy with it then she shouldn’t have gotten married to a man who had children

ludocris · 08/08/2023 18:13

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 08/08/2023 18:09

Why are so many women so horrified at the thought of a father and his kids spending a day together on their own?

I don't think it's anything to do with the dad being with them on their own. It's about excluding them from the group that includes their half-sibling and step-cousin.

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 08/08/2023 18:13

@Cucucucu it helps to read the OP properly. The kids were not supposed to be with their dad, it was not his day. The day out was arranged weeks in advance, on a day when the step kids were not supposed to be there.

The whole point of the trip is that OP and her child can spend some time with her family because they don't see them often due to distance.

Iloveacurry · 08/08/2023 18:13

Go and enjoy your day out with your parents and sister. I assume it was booked when you didn’t know your SC would be with you! Why should you change your plans?

ludocris · 08/08/2023 18:15

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 08/08/2023 18:13

@Cucucucu it helps to read the OP properly. The kids were not supposed to be with their dad, it was not his day. The day out was arranged weeks in advance, on a day when the step kids were not supposed to be there.

The whole point of the trip is that OP and her child can spend some time with her family because they don't see them often due to distance.

This is irrelevant because they are going to be there. If OP had an older child who was supposed to be away at scout camp, and that got cancelled, I'm pretty sure they'd take the child with them.

whumpthereitis · 08/08/2023 18:15

ludocris · 08/08/2023 18:12

@Neonyellowfish their daughter's step-children are not their family? OK. You're VERY conservative in your definition.

It’s almost like different things work for different families.

Cucucucu · 08/08/2023 18:15

Op are you the same person that didn’t what to take the sc on holidays either ? And whose husband was upset ?
I hope these men see through this awful behaviour and ou their kids first

SpainToday · 08/08/2023 18:15

ludocris · 08/08/2023 18:12

@Neonyellowfish their daughter's step-children are not their family? OK. You're VERY conservative in your definition.

It’s like I said earlier, you can class yourself as related but not really know someone, I gave the example of my uncles not really knowing DH’s uncles. It’s not the end of the world.

FTMum23 · 08/08/2023 18:15

You keep mentioning "my family", Your step children are your family, simply put you are part of a blended family.

You said in a comment that your parents and sister haven't really spent time with your step children, it sounds to me as though you are trying to keep everyone separate.

If I was one of the children being left at home I would be feeling alienated and questioning why we were being left out...

funinthesun19 · 08/08/2023 18:17

ludocris · 08/08/2023 18:04

@funinthesun19 ouch.

Not ouch at all. It’s true. Being tied at the hip is suffocating.

A woman makes plans with her family, and her husband suggests/insists that he and his kids come too. Probably trying the guilt trip card too no doubt.

Sounds suffocating to me, because she’s actually allowed to see her family without him/his kids always being there.

Cucucucu · 08/08/2023 18:17

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 08/08/2023 18:13

@Cucucucu it helps to read the OP properly. The kids were not supposed to be with their dad, it was not his day. The day out was arranged weeks in advance, on a day when the step kids were not supposed to be there.

The whole point of the trip is that OP and her child can spend some time with her family because they don't see them often due to distance.

They are there now . My step son was not supposed to go on holiday abroad with us and then his mum had a issue and now he needs to come , it costed us an extra £2000 as all was booked last minute ( flights , visa , extra big car ) , but there is no way I would tell him no . He is family

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 08/08/2023 18:18

@Cucucucu I'm also sure they'd also love (if not even more) a day with dad, without having to split his attention on his wife, other child, random extended family members doing something just as fun.

SerafinasGoose · 08/08/2023 18:20

Anniegetyourgun · 08/08/2023 17:21

Yes, I am female and I am a grandmother. The last line was somewhat tongue in cheek but I meant the rest of it. Everyone's so fixated on the SC's feelings, apparently because they are STEP children and therefore congenitally disadvantaged, they forget the other people in this scenario, some of whom may have a right to their opinion too. Especially the person who's organised and paid for the outing in the first place.

Apologies Annie - what I meant is that some people on MN will blame women for absolutely everything. Hence no, nobody's thinking of the woman!

And I agree the grandparents and grandchild deserve to have their own relationship. The man is given a free pass and his wife is somehow deemed to be responsible for all the childcare. I find this unfathomable, but looking at the attitudes upthread I can see why so many men get away with such minimal input into the housework and childcare. Threads on this site are ten-a-penny written by women at the ends of their tether because their lazy partners expect them to do everything.

Rods and own backs spring to mind.

Brownbearsinthewoods · 08/08/2023 18:20

It seems to be an unpopular on MN but I think if you marry a person with children, you become one big extended family. I don't see there being lines between 'our kids' and 'your kids'. That's why they're called 'blended families' and you move as one unit.

Obviously not everyone sees it that way but that's just my view.

whumpthereitis · 08/08/2023 18:21

ludocris · 08/08/2023 18:15

This is irrelevant because they are going to be there. If OP had an older child who was supposed to be away at scout camp, and that got cancelled, I'm pretty sure they'd take the child with them.

So? They would both be her children, nieces/nephews to her sister, and grandchildren to her parents.

Her stepchildren are not her children, and the relationship between all parties is different. This is a family get together organised by her parents for the their children and grandchildren. OP’s stepchildren are not their grandchildren, regardless of whether you think they should be thought of as such.

Neonyellowfish · 08/08/2023 18:21

ludocris · 08/08/2023 18:13

I don't think it's anything to do with the dad being with them on their own. It's about excluding them from the group that includes their half-sibling and step-cousin.

Step cousin? Getting ridiculous now

Sugarfree23 · 08/08/2023 18:23

funinthesun19 · 08/08/2023 17:57

Yes he has asked this because he’s working and isn’t going. So he’s expecting her to take his children with her without him being there. It will be a different dynamic to the one she has planned, which isn’t fair.

It might be a different dynamic.
But really how can she walk out the door with their half-sibling to go to a fun fair while they are left to amuse themselves in front of the telly while Dad works?

Because we all know he isn't going to take time off to do something without Op.

"Bye kids see you when we get back"
Someone said the kids would only be hurt if someone told them to be hurt. Honestly could you do that to any child?

Gymnopedie · 08/08/2023 18:24

The thing is my husbands older two children are with us tomorrow (I'm off and DH is working from home in the morning but off in the afternoon). This is outside of their normal time with us due to the school holidays

Just out of interest OP, were you in anyway consulted about having them there on a day when DH is working? Or did he agree to it all and then expect that you'd be the actual parent on the day while he ducked out (at least in the morning)?

Cucucucu · 08/08/2023 18:25

Brownbearsinthewoods · 08/08/2023 18:20

It seems to be an unpopular on MN but I think if you marry a person with children, you become one big extended family. I don't see there being lines between 'our kids' and 'your kids'. That's why they're called 'blended families' and you move as one unit.

Obviously not everyone sees it that way but that's just my view.

I think your atitude ( exactly the same as mine ) is the difference between a blended family that leave no trauma and one that will always have issues . No way I would go out with my bio kids and leave my step kids and no way my partner would do the same . It’s our kids , if they are all in the house then they all get the same opportunities.
No wonder so many children are left traumatised by step parents .

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