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Husband and our (f) best friend on holiday

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OfMyDog · 06/08/2023 14:10

Sanity check please. Just back from 10 days in Santorini where it was me, DH our DS and also my best friend and her DS of same age. She is on a lower income so we offered for her and her son to join us and we paid for everything. She’s married too but she and her husband aren’t close so he stayed home, so just took her and her son.

She’s mainly my best friend and we’re super close and I trust her implicitly, but my husband also counts her as his best friend. They used to work together years ago. At home they go out alone together all the time, play sport together, meet for coffee and if one is WFH, they meet up at our house or hers for lunch without me. Our sons are in same class at school and it’s all one merged family. Her husband doesn’t seem to care what she does.

In the first week of the holiday they were spending loads of time together and I felt a bit like a spare part sometimes, he chats to her more than me, they joke together, they went to watch the sunset together on the beach alone etc. If we go somewhere, he sits in the middle of us with one of us either side but then he talks to her and ignores me, and if I bring this up he just makes out that it’s his right and that I’m boring him by even mentioning it.

I love her to bits and believe she is fully on my side, but I hate seeing him laughing and joking with her. I trust her and I’ve no physical evidence to doubt that he is doing anything, though he’s alwsys on his phone late at night :/ My family says that I’m being too trusting and that it’s not right. When I’ve tried speaking to him about it and how I feel, he shuts it down and says I’m being ridiculous and turns it into an argument about how it’s my fault and I’m being silly.

One thing that really stood out was a night on holiday where both our DS had fallen asleep in ‘our’ hotel room, so I stayed with them, and DH who’d been texting her all eve went to her hotel room and was gone for ages. When I went over and knocked, they were just sat on sofa and she was in her PJs, I have no reason to think anything happened then or any other time, but maybe I’m also being naiive!?!?

I don’t know what I’m asking other than AINBU to think that they’re just friends and it’s fine? I trust her, and I’ve never seen any evidence of him cheating. It’s just a bit uncomfortable with it sometimes and any of my other friends who hear about it think im a mug. I also hate how he just shuts me down and says I’m being too clingy for even mentioning it. Now we’re back in the UK they’re literally finding every opportunity to go for walks together and again I feel like the spare part, argh!

Please tell me I’m not being ridiculous!

xx

OP posts:
Siouxiesiouxiesioux · 06/08/2023 20:28

RationalHuman · 06/08/2023 20:12

Are you overbearing? Are you pleasant to be around? Do you play offence or are you one of those ladies who only play defence? You have to ask yourself why isn't he spending time with me? What does this women do that I'm not doing? Do you weigh him down?

WHAT???!!!!!!

truthhurts23 · 06/08/2023 20:28

OfMyDog · 06/08/2023 16:40

I’ve read through every post, many twice - was hiding away upstairs a bit to do so. Thank you to everyone for your helpful input, it’s really helpful to read all sides and see all the points, even the ones who called me thick which I might be to some degree ;-)

To the people who said it can’t be real or that it must be made up as I’ve just come back from holiday, it is unfortunately very real but the holiday is really only the the latest (and most blatant) example of many things over the last year or two.

He and she both get equal blame in the posts, after reading and thinking about it all I agree, though think 75% him because of the way he reacts when I talk about it. Assuming it is just an emotional affair (like I 95% believe it is not physical), she’s wrong for getting herself in this position but it’s the way he makes me feel about it that makes me so pissed off. All of you who said about 2 wives, wife sister, 3 in the marriage - totally right!

I also spend loads of time together with her and it still feels like we’re best friends - she and I are really really close.

This post got way more many replies in an hour than I expected. I’ve lurked on MN for years and often read things and think ‘oh how can they be so stupid’. It’s hard to when you’re that person. Thanks for everyone who’s given your input, too many to reply individually. I appreciate it. I’m ok, if anything I feel a little validated today xx

Have you ever considered that she is keeping you close, so that she can be in close proximity to your dh?
it sounds like she could be using you as an excuse to hang out with your dh too, when her husband asks where is she going, she could say “ I’m going to OPs house” but she’s actually hanging out with your dh instead

stop telling her things about your insecurities and don’t discuss your marriage with her too, she could be using it to her advantage

BlastedIce · 06/08/2023 20:28

RationalHuman · 06/08/2023 20:12

Are you overbearing? Are you pleasant to be around? Do you play offence or are you one of those ladies who only play defence? You have to ask yourself why isn't he spending time with me? What does this women do that I'm not doing? Do you weigh him down?

I’d fucking weigh him down with an anchor round his neck in the sea!

Are you the “friend”, you’d go the same fucking way!

ballsdeep · 06/08/2023 20:30

ip you’re in a throuple and you just don’t know it. She’s not respectful to you. You’ve told her how it makes you feel and she’s still carrying on.

LittleMonks11 · 06/08/2023 20:31

RationalHuman · 06/08/2023 20:12

Are you overbearing? Are you pleasant to be around? Do you play offence or are you one of those ladies who only play defence? You have to ask yourself why isn't he spending time with me? What does this women do that I'm not doing? Do you weigh him down?

Andrew Tate released from house arrest in this thread?

Allthingsdreamy · 06/08/2023 20:32

Next time they go for a walk follow them!

Siouxiesiouxiesioux · 06/08/2023 20:32

BlastedIce · 06/08/2023 20:28

I’d fucking weigh him down with an anchor round his neck in the sea!

Are you the “friend”, you’d go the same fucking way!

😂

Itsnotrightbutitsok · 06/08/2023 20:33

I can’t see anything wrong with their behaviour.

I do have a lot of male friends and my best friend is male so maybe I’m biased.

Who’s friend was she first?

It sounds like she’s more his friend and so of course he’s going to be the one to sit in the middle.
Its also difficult because on holiday as a single parent and so of course he’s going to make more of an effort to make her feel comfortable.
I also don’t think there’s anything wrong with her sitting in her PJs whilst watching TV together.

I would ignore the holiday as I think your emotions were just heightened and you were feeling jealous.
So I would focus on and question whether their friendship is inappropriate in an everyday situation.

Lots of people will probably suggest an EA but what’s the difference between an EA and a best friend?

Maireas · 06/08/2023 20:36

@Itsnotrightbutitsok - why did DH go to her room for ages? Why are they meeting up for lunch and coffee and doing all manner of things without the OP?
Why are they watching sunsets?

1FootInTheRave · 06/08/2023 20:38

I really think this is already an affair op.

I am great mates with Dh's pals and we get on so well. No way on earth would I behave like this with any of them.

Watching the sunset together. C'mon op. That's not normal.

She is as bad as him.

ThePoetsWife · 06/08/2023 20:39

You should be his best friend instead.

A weird set up I'm sorry OP

Maireas · 06/08/2023 20:42

you should be his best friend instead
This, 💯.
This situation is just nonsense. They're not "best friends" like they're 12. They're having an affair.

winterchills · 06/08/2023 20:50

I wouldn't be allowing this! Far too weird!!!

debbs77 · 06/08/2023 20:52

I'm sorry but I hate to say it. 100% affair in EVERY way possible x

HaveSomeIntrospect · 06/08/2023 20:53

Your husband is an arse and she is not your friend.

Would you put up with it if your husband was going off to spend time with his male friend and leaving you to look after the kids?

BetsyBobbins · 06/08/2023 20:54

@BlastedIce Excellent!🤣

sunglassesonthetable · 06/08/2023 20:54

Lots of people will probably suggest an EA but what’s the difference between an EA and a best friend?

Oh do go away @Itsnotrightbutitsok you clearly haven't got a clue if you have to ask that question.

And lots of people on this thread have male friends. God alive.

hot2trotter · 06/08/2023 20:54

I find it hard to believe anyone could be this gullible. It's obvious what's going on, and not just "emotional" either. Wake up.

Hawkins009 · 06/08/2023 20:55

hot2trotter · 06/08/2023 20:54

I find it hard to believe anyone could be this gullible. It's obvious what's going on, and not just "emotional" either. Wake up.

But by the same token two to tango.

Elfer13 · 06/08/2023 20:55

So sorry to hear of your situation, it reminded me of my ex and one of my ex best friends. They would go to gigs together when the band didn't appeal to me. His interests suddenly changed from heavy metal to indie and he certainly went indie her.

Hawkins009 · 06/08/2023 20:58

sunglassesonthetable · 06/08/2023 20:54

Lots of people will probably suggest an EA but what’s the difference between an EA and a best friend?

Oh do go away @Itsnotrightbutitsok you clearly haven't got a clue if you have to ask that question.

And lots of people on this thread have male friends. God alive.

That's the thing one person's bestie, is another person's perspective that it's an emotional affair, sometimes different perspectives and all.

Silverseas1 · 06/08/2023 20:59

I looked across the room and imagined my DH getting texts from a female 'friend' (even worse if my friend too) arranging to meet for lunch or to play tennis etc.
My temper is rising just thinking about it and I trust DH with all my heart. I'm also imagining DH reaction if I my phone rang and it was a male friend (work only) calling me for a social chat. He'd be asking for his address 🤦‍♀️

Theredjellybean · 06/08/2023 21:01

If she was your best friend and you'd paid for her holiday.. she'd be babysitting the children and sending you to watch the sunsets with your dh....

Hankunamatata · 06/08/2023 21:02

Even if there is nothing going on on surely your feelings count.
No he shouldn't be in her room with her in her pjs. Sunset walks really!!
She is no friend of yours op. A real friend would not blur those boundaries

Hillcrest2022 · 06/08/2023 21:04

Please don't go on holidays like this again, just go with your family.

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