Page 8 | "Summer isn't summering" anyone get irritated by the stupid way people speak these days?

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 07/08/2023 12:17

I don't know why people are calling this thread ageist...

Because there have been posts being unpleasant about specific age groups.

NeinDanke · 07/08/2023 13:34

*I don't know why people are calling this thread ageist...

Because there have been posts being unpleasant about specific age groups.*

Fair enough. There certainly were some unfair remarks about certain age groups made by certain posters. They are two separate things though aren't they?

There was nothing ageist in the OP. I don't think a couple of peoples' prejudice towards the young mean other people can't have some light-hearted banter about words/phrases that annoy them, without being being put in their place.

People are allowed to have things that get on their nerves and I don't personally find that the types of things the OP mentioned pertain to any particular age-group.

LittleMissUnreasonable · 07/08/2023 13:42

Possibly the most immuture generation ever, in the 70/80s at 21/22 you were an adult running your own home with a child. Now they don't want to do adulting and would prefer to stay at home and spend on nails, lip fillers fake tan, clothes and showing off on Instagram

@Emz6103
Reproducing and finding someone to marry at 21 doesn't make you any more of an adult, and is patronising to those who don't have children or get married.
Also with low wages/house prices, good luck to 21 year olds who can buy a house straight off the bat! Genuinely, it's bloody hard. Maturity should not be defined by reproductive status or other sexist norms.

Combusting · 07/08/2023 13:49

ohbloodyhellll · 06/08/2023 10:18

I don't know what it is but I follow quite a lot of Instagram bloggers /vloggers and have noticed this lately
"Summer isn't summering"
"July isn't julying"
Honestly it's driving me mad
Is it just me who's noticed this stupidity?

I like to think of langauge as flexible, changeable and evolving constantly.

I speak as someone born and raised in a former colony where English is as much our native tongue as it weirdly and wonderfully blended into our "mother tongue" languages (of which there are many) - so my entire vocabulary is a cornucopia of English(ish) talk. Taught hardcore English grammar compulsorily in school, perfectly able to understand fronted adverbials and yet speaking English blended and mixed with at least 2 other languages. Perhaps that makes me not particularly bothered about these things.

SarahShorty · 07/08/2023 13:50

It's not that black and white. I got my first house at 26, married in the same year, and sadly due to male factor infertility we haven't yet been able to reproduce. How do you define maturity from one person to the next anyway? Most 30-somethings have the maturity of someone half their age. And while there are some people who are wise beyond their years, there are some people who are just complete morons.

pikkumyy77 · 07/08/2023 17:16

Threenow · 07/08/2023 05:14

I can't imagine anything more utterly boring than studying for a law degree!! You might find running a home and having a child at 21/22 boring (and incidentally I didn't do that myself) but it was quite common. One of my friends was doing it just after her 18th birthday.

The poster is quite right, it's pathetic to see young adults acting like children - and maybe the fact that they don't want anything to do with "adulting" has more to do with why they can't afford to buy a house than anything previous generations have done. You know, the generations who left school early and got jobs to earn a living.

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So this is a perfect example of why this thread is such a crystallization of something not lighthearted at all. The grammar police who are just sick of x or y neologism turn out to be arguing that a specific cohort (in this case young people) are at fault for larger so socioeconomic trends. Home ownership is a perfect example: declining housing stock, rising interest rates, poor job prospects, post brexit economic collapse all contribute to the fact that no amount of forgone avocado toast will produce sufficient income for the average person to buy a home.

None of this complaining is new! Socrates and others were complaining about the youths/-heck Socrates was killed for corrupting youth and teaching them to talk back to their elders—thousands of years ago.

its useless to ask people to reflect on why they are choosing a two minute hate on random other people over word choice. But I would like to know. Why?

Jamtartforme · 07/08/2023 18:14

@AndJust do you have kids now? If so, why did you want to do something so boring at 30/35/40?

aperolspriitz · 07/08/2023 18:39

You're probably not their target audience. Just don't follow them.

AndJust · 07/08/2023 22:04

Jamtartforme · 07/08/2023 18:14

@AndJust do you have kids now? If so, why did you want to do something so boring at 30/35/40?

I think everyone should live a period of their life of pure freedom. Who needs to be tied down so early in life.

Jamtartforme · 07/08/2023 23:22

AndJust · 07/08/2023 22:04

I think everyone should live a period of their life of pure freedom. Who needs to be tied down so early in life.

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Who needs to be tied down at any point, if it’s so awful and restricting?

TakemedowntoPotatoCity · 07/08/2023 23:34

It surprises me whenever I see a video clip of someone talking from the 80's. They sound quite different to now, and I was around in the 80s so did I talk like that?
Language evolves constantly..the annoying verbification (!) of everything may one day be so commonplace that adulting, summering, wintering etc may be in the dictionary. In fifty years we probably won't understand much but it doesn't matter as we will be dead soon with more annoying new phrases to irritate the current gen z! And so on!

Jumpingthruhoops · 08/08/2023 00:21

Barrell · 06/08/2023 11:09

The one I hate is using “human” when referring to a person - eg. “my favourite human”.

I obviously exclude anyone who isn’t a human, particularly anyone of extraterrestrial origin.

Otherwise, please give it a rest.

Disagree. I call my husband 'my favourite human' - because he is and I think it sounds sweeter than 'my favourite person'. He likes it so, frankly, I couldn't care less what anyone else thinks of it.
Grateful to be still so loved up after nearly 30 years together.

Jamtartforme · 08/08/2023 00:24

Jumpingthruhoops · 08/08/2023 00:21

Disagree. I call my husband 'my favourite human' - because he is and I think it sounds sweeter than 'my favourite person'. He likes it so, frankly, I couldn't care less what anyone else thinks of it.
Grateful to be still so loved up after nearly 30 years together.

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It sounds like you do care if I’m honest…

ikno · 08/08/2023 00:28

This isn’t something exclusive to young people. Old people say cringeworthy things both at their current age and when they were younger. I mean, half the acronyms and phrases on this website are irritating to people outside of it! Wasn’t racism and sexism rampant before as well, some of the things said by people 20 years ago likely can’t be uttered now

Jumpingthruhoops · 08/08/2023 00:30

pictoosh · 06/08/2023 12:37

I think it shows a stubborn lack of imagination to think that these type of wordplay demonstrates a lack of intelligence. I believe the opposite is true. The play on words demonstates a good grasp of language while those who sneer at them are lacking in scope.

This!
I write for a living and am always trying to find new ways of incorporating new words I hear into my work or in conversation. I find that I'm able to communicate well with all generations, especially within my own extended family.

Jumpingthruhoops · 08/08/2023 00:32

Jamtartforme · 08/08/2023 00:24

It sounds like you do care if I’m honest…

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Not at all. Was merely responding to someone saying they hated the term. Isn't that the idea of these threads?

ikno · 08/08/2023 00:36

pikkumyy77 · 07/08/2023 17:16

So this is a perfect example of why this thread is such a crystallization of something not lighthearted at all. The grammar police who are just sick of x or y neologism turn out to be arguing that a specific cohort (in this case young people) are at fault for larger so socioeconomic trends. Home ownership is a perfect example: declining housing stock, rising interest rates, poor job prospects, post brexit economic collapse all contribute to the fact that no amount of forgone avocado toast will produce sufficient income for the average person to buy a home.

None of this complaining is new! Socrates and others were complaining about the youths/-heck Socrates was killed for corrupting youth and teaching them to talk back to their elders—thousands of years ago.

its useless to ask people to reflect on why they are choosing a two minute hate on random other people over word choice. But I would like to know. Why?

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because it makes them feel better about themselves? The truth is age is a sensitive topic, old people might feel defensive by the mere presence of someone younger than them.

I’m 24 and earn £40k per year. I rent and run my own place, my bills are £1.7k per month. Can’t afford a house soon unless these posters want me to move in with my parents? But then I’m not running my own home so they’ll judge me for that too. Can’t win! It’s rare for people to be homeowners at my age, let alone at 20. That’s not due to usage of “adulting” or “summering”!

Ultimately today’s young people were raised by the same generation being nasty in this thread, so where does the “problem” really lie?

Boomboom22 · 08/08/2023 09:33

Are you joking? You earn 40k and have over 2k left a month and think you can't afford a house soon? You are in no way representative of most early 20s already earning more than the average salary and with more disposable income than most people who have a mortgage.

SarahShorty · 08/08/2023 09:46

£40k? Wow. At 25 and 26, our combined net pay between me and my DH was about £45-£50k in 2014 and we got a mortgage on what was back then a £210k house. So yeah, you're quite a step ahead. Please don't mistake us for being envious, by the way. Money certainly helps, but it isn't the be all and end all. It's the way it's spent that is for scrutiny.

SarahShorty · 08/08/2023 09:50

Sounds like you might live in London. In which case, the salary makes perfect sense. London is ridiculously expensive.

Wiccan · 08/08/2023 09:51

It can work in your favour when my kids were teens and they used slang constantly I just pretended I couldn't understand them.They would soon revert back to plain English when they realised it meant no lifts to their mates / money or anything else they wanted 🤣🤣

LittleMissUnreasonable · 08/08/2023 11:21

@Jamtartforme · Today 00:24
@Jumpingthruhoops · Today 00:21
Disagree. I call my husband 'my favourite human' - because he is and I think it sounds sweeter than 'my favourite person'. He likes it so, frankly, I couldn't care less what anyone else thinks of it.
Grateful to be still so loved up after nearly 30 years together.

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It sounds like you do care if I’m honest…

It does sound like you care... Normally the people who have to say "well he likes it so frankly I couldn't care less" and make a statement about how loved up you are, are the ones trying to justify something. Just say you like the term 'favourite human', no need for all the 'but we're so in love, he likes it' hyperbole

soldedsweeties · 08/08/2023 11:26

Times are a'changing. I'm kinda sad that MLE is replacing cockney. Also can't stand when women call themselves a "bad bitch"...when did that start?

soldedsweeties · 08/08/2023 11:28

DD and her friends (all from and in rural Suffolk) throw up gang signs in instagram photos and say the most ridiculous slang while calling themselves and their friends "bad bitches" "peng hoes" "bag gals with big bundas" etc really grinds my gears but what can I do, lock her away?

WhereisWallandurr · 08/08/2023 11:32

soldedsweeties · 08/08/2023 11:28

DD and her friends (all from and in rural Suffolk) throw up gang signs in instagram photos and say the most ridiculous slang while calling themselves and their friends "bad bitches" "peng hoes" "bag gals with big bundas" etc really grinds my gears but what can I do, lock her away?

LMAO. My teenage brother does the same with his Hood Rich tracksuits emulating drug dealers 🙄.

Disintegration of the West. IQ is literally on the decline in England. Brace ye selves.