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"Summer isn't summering" anyone get irritated by the stupid way people speak these days?

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ohbloodyhellll · 06/08/2023 10:18

I don't know what it is but I follow quite a lot of Instagram bloggers /vloggers and have noticed this lately
"Summer isn't summering"
"July isn't julying"
Honestly it's driving me mad
Is it just me who's noticed this stupidity?

OP posts:
Frogmila · 06/08/2023 12:20

I studied linguistics and like playful, changing language plus reading about historical colloquial language. I particularly like beatnik slang and am considering trying to bring 'daddio' back.

'Cozzie livs' quite amuses me.

I used to get irritated with Melania Trump's 'Be Best' though.

Sparklesocks · 06/08/2023 12:25

Isn’t it just part of getting older to be grumbly about the younger generation? I’m sure your parents thought the same…and your grandparents before them…and so forth.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 06/08/2023 12:25

Yes, worry. Grin It's the moment when you can't think of the intelligent phrase because the silly one has become ubiquitous that's frightening.

Well, I am getting on a bit...

Do you think you're more sophisticated/ less susceptible in your other languages?

Yes (though I wouldn't call it suscebtible - I don't use many of these phrases except to exasperate my childre, but that is a sign that I am less knowledgeable, less up-to-date and have less social breadth in my other languages, because unfortunately I don't get to spend much time in the countries where they are spoken, and most of what I tend to read in them is not colloquial.

This just goes to show that unless you only speak in recent colloquialisms (which nobody does), knowing them just increases your range of language. After all, it's not as if anyone who says Cozzy Livs or Platty Jubes doesn't know the proper terms (although the sneerers might want to claim otherwise). They are just using them playfully.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 06/08/2023 12:27

Isn’t it just part of getting older to be grumbly about the younger generation? I’m sure your parents thought the same…and your grandparents before them…and so forth.

Well quite. I've been a secondary school teacher for 27 years. I find teenage slang (especially how it varies regionally) a constant source of entertainment. If it irritated me, I'd probably have spontaneously combusted years ago!

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 06/08/2023 12:29

Sorry btw - I feel like I've derailed a cathartic whinge thread. Grin Glad some others feel like I do though!

Wiccan · 06/08/2023 12:30

Frogmila · 06/08/2023 12:20

I studied linguistics and like playful, changing language plus reading about historical colloquial language. I particularly like beatnik slang and am considering trying to bring 'daddio' back.

'Cozzie livs' quite amuses me.

I used to get irritated with Melania Trump's 'Be Best' though.

My hubby is chuckling as I type he loves the term " Daddio" and wants to use it more in conversation 🤣🤣

pictoosh · 06/08/2023 12:30

I feel as you do, yes.

pictoosh · 06/08/2023 12:30

That was to @AllProperTeaIsTheft

BrawnWild · 06/08/2023 12:32

Cazzovuoi · 06/08/2023 11:21

I’ll see your humans and raise you “hoomans” as one particular influencer says. She’s otherwise lovely but this makes me so irritated.

"Hoomans" is what animals say e.g. "the hooman needs to feed me".

Human is by humans for humans "my favourite human"

RhosynBach · 06/08/2023 12:37

I quite like platty joobs

I have someone on my Facebook who refers to her son as ‘someone’ all the time. Like ‘someone is excited to go to the park today’ or ‘someone was enjoying their ice cream’. Someone is 8 and she does it every time. She has a photo album with his full name on so it’s not that she’s hiding his name from Facebook. It irrationally annoys me. As does ‘little man’

but platty Joobs is one of the good ones .

pictoosh · 06/08/2023 12:37

I think it shows a stubborn lack of imagination to think that these type of wordplay demonstrates a lack of intelligence. I believe the opposite is true. The play on words demonstates a good grasp of language while those who sneer at them are lacking in scope.

Usernamen · 06/08/2023 12:39

MagpiePi · 06/08/2023 10:20

It's all those twenty somethings who are always bleating on about how hard 'adulting' is.

Indeed. See also wanking on about “boundaries”.

pictoosh · 06/08/2023 12:41

It's not from Love Island. It's a well used phrase that has been around as long as I have anyway...I'm 47. Love Island didn't invent 'the ick' ffs.

mintich · 06/08/2023 12:42

Cozy livs and platty jobs are supposed to be funny....all part of hun culture!

mintich · 06/08/2023 12:42

Oops on the auto corrects but you know what I mean!

MinnieTruck · 06/08/2023 12:44

Yep the stupidest generation by far!!

People always cry about ageism on here but when it’s aimed towards the younger generation it’s okay? Double standards as always

SophieTheWonderCat · 06/08/2023 12:46

"broken" - I hate that stupid phrase as in "my dog is broken" 😹

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 06/08/2023 12:49

OP, why do you need to 'find your tribe'? Do you need back up or something?

Can you not just stop following these people who irk you and so not have the need to write another tedious 'unpopular opinions' thread which is always spite-loaded and just gratuitously designed to upset?

Just stop following people and then, hopefully, you won't need to talk about them so much.

senua · 06/08/2023 12:51

pictoosh · 06/08/2023 12:37

I think it shows a stubborn lack of imagination to think that these type of wordplay demonstrates a lack of intelligence. I believe the opposite is true. The play on words demonstates a good grasp of language while those who sneer at them are lacking in scope.

How on earth does saying "Platty Joobs" demonstrate intelligence and a "good grasp of language"?

pictoosh · 06/08/2023 12:54

It's being inventive and amusing isn't it? You don't agree but so what?

KitchenSinkLlama · 06/08/2023 12:55

DaisyThistle · 06/08/2023 11:18

Another linguist here. Language is organic. I like how it grows and I like playful neologisms. Most of the examples here make me smile. Some make me cringe, but that's OK. I would hate language to be grey and formalised, for adaptation and creative development to be stifled, for a 'correct' version to be set in stone. The English language is at its most vibrant since Elizabethan times, because of the arrival of the internet.

Whilst I agree with you completely, I think it is the infantilising of speech by adults that is the issue. This isn't evolution of language, it is stunting language to a lower common denominator.

Wiccan · 06/08/2023 12:57

" Platty joobs " is just cracking me up now, this thread is really cheering me up . 😂

SarahShorty · 06/08/2023 12:57

titchy · 06/08/2023 11:39

Don't forget Cozzy Livs!

Ah yes, forgot about that fine specimen.

LifeofBrienne · 06/08/2023 12:59

Meh, there’s a lot more annoying on social media than neologisms, and it’s not confined to one generation - see for example those ‘like this post if you remember cars without seatbelts and playing on building sites aged seven and you turned out fine!’ posts. If you unfollow people who annoy you then you don’t have to see any of it.

pikkumyy77 · 06/08/2023 13:01

Cripes if you knew anything about language you would know—as the linguists on this thread know—that it is always changing and adding words and new forms and dropping some. Rhyming slang? Thieves cant? U and non U? Regional expressions? Ethnic variations? These are what make talking and communicating fun.

The “I hate these people for the way they talk” is, in this case, just ageism but its often regional, racial, class based or xenophobic bigotry.

Get over yourselves.