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"Summer isn't summering" anyone get irritated by the stupid way people speak these days?

214 replies

ohbloodyhellll · 06/08/2023 10:18

I don't know what it is but I follow quite a lot of Instagram bloggers /vloggers and have noticed this lately
"Summer isn't summering"
"July isn't julying"
Honestly it's driving me mad
Is it just me who's noticed this stupidity?

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CrapBucket · 06/08/2023 13:55

I like new words and expressions, it would be boring if we never changed anything!

I do find the cliche ‘very own’ really annoying though. All over Linked In company pages. Here’s our very own Fred Bloggs sharing his thoughts on the latest [shit boring industry jargon]. Well it’s hardly going to be the CEO of your competitor is it now.

TooManyAnimals94 · 06/08/2023 13:56

I like to imagine that if the Elizabethans had had Mumsnet, someone would have started a thread about "Why can't William Shakespeare use PROPER words" and "his sense of humour is puerile...youth of today, grumble grumble".

ShoesoftheWorld · 06/08/2023 14:00

pictoosh · 06/08/2023 12:37

I think it shows a stubborn lack of imagination to think that these type of wordplay demonstrates a lack of intelligence. I believe the opposite is true. The play on words demonstates a good grasp of language while those who sneer at them are lacking in scope.

Yep. Also liking AllProperTeaIsTheft's posts (great name, btw).

Language is something that's used, and use changes things. It's not a museum piece behind a glass screen. My 18yo says 'anyways' and 'not that big of a deal'. I say 'anyway' and 'not that big a deal'. Can't get exercised about it.

And people have been turning nouns into verbs (and vice versa) for centuries. Shakespeare did it a lot.

Cabbagey · 06/08/2023 15:23

SarahShorty · 06/08/2023 13:46

Grains soften the longer they're cooked. So 'softer eat' does make sense, it's just not correct English. It should be something like 'if you prefer your grains softer, leave to simmer a little longer'.

Yes, Sarah. I wasn't posting on this thread about horrible phrases because I was mystified about how to cook grains. I was posting because 'a softer eat' is a bloody stupid thing to say.

DaisyThistle · 06/08/2023 15:38

JeandeServiette · 06/08/2023 11:21

I know that you're right, but can't we aspire for language to develop in a less puerile way? Creativity is great. Mass infantilisation less so.

But we can't police it if we want it develop organically through usage. Some is silly and some is stunning. Some lasts and some is a brief fad.

Scalottia · 06/08/2023 15:58

ssd · 06/08/2023 11:22

Aren't you lovely.

Lovely or not, it's the truth.

Saverage · 06/08/2023 16:02

Don't really mind any of the phrases in this thread apart from 'adulting'. I think it's more the concept though than the phrase. Usually the given example of difficult 'adulting' has me rolling my eyes at the feebleness of it.

Used to loathe 'my bad' but the years have worn me down on that one.

incognitomosqiito · 06/08/2023 16:02

SarahShorty · 06/08/2023 11:13

The same people say 'vacay', 'holibobs' and 'Platty Joobs'. IQs are dropping and/or orative skills are slipping. Probably both.

Platty joobs amused me.
And so does I'm having my next "Menty b" 😳🤣

incognitomosqiito · 06/08/2023 16:03

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 06/08/2023 11:16

The same people say 'vacay', 'holibobs' and 'Platty Joobs'. IQs are dropping and/or orative skills are slipping. Probably both.

I love Platty Joobs (the phrase, not tye actual event) and I have an Oxbridge languages degree. I think my IQ and orative skills are ok <worries>.

Hear hear

Hestu · 06/08/2023 16:04

What a load of ageist shite.

TheodoreMortlock · 06/08/2023 16:06

Summer isn't summering.

Sing cuccu.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 06/08/2023 16:10

I think it shows a stubborn lack of imagination to think that these type of wordplay demonstrates a lack of intelligence. I believe the opposite is true. The play on words demonstates a good grasp of language while those who sneer at them are lacking in scope.

Yes, absolutely this!

Yep. Also liking AllProperTeaIsTheft's posts (great name, btw).

Thank you Smile. It's the punchline to my second favourite joke.

Jamtartforme · 06/08/2023 16:12

Nuca · 06/08/2023 10:52

Also reminds me of the weird phrases posters use on the style and beauty board. ‘Large of nork’ and ‘large of tummy’ are recent once I’ve noticed being used a lot. Just say big boobs!

Don’t get me started on ‘petite babies’! There’s nothing wrong with saying ‘small’.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 06/08/2023 16:18

Also reminds me of the weird phrases posters use on the style and beauty board. ‘Large of nork’ and ‘large of tummy’ are recent once I’ve noticed being used a lot.

Sigh. Yes, because we must all use normal, strictly factual phrases at all times Hmm. It is a feature of internet forums (and real life groups) that they develop their own abbreviations and in-phrases. Shared language usage within a group is one of the things that make people feel they belong to a community.

Just say big boobs

Why? Do you actually need to tell people how they should phrase things?

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 06/08/2023 16:19

Don’t get me started on ‘petite babies’! There’s nothing wrong with saying ‘small’.

There's nothing wrong with saying 'petite' either.

Jamtartforme · 06/08/2023 16:22

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 06/08/2023 16:19

Don’t get me started on ‘petite babies’! There’s nothing wrong with saying ‘small’.

There's nothing wrong with saying 'petite' either.

Have you missed the point of this thread? It’s a subjective discussion about language you find annoying. Nobody’s trying to ban anything, it’s just a chat thread. And in my opinion saying ‘petite baby’ just sounds very odd. In the same way describing a man as petite would.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 06/08/2023 16:32

DaisyThistle · 06/08/2023 15:38

But we can't police it if we want it develop organically through usage. Some is silly and some is stunning. Some lasts and some is a brief fad.

It can't be policed anyway, that's a ridiculous assertion. Social media and the various fora have completely changed how language evolves and the speed of that change. The horses have bolted, people talk how they want to talk, irrespective of how welcome or annoying that is.

Many terms make me shudder to myself. I dislike them, won't use them myself and that's the best I can do. If other people use/misuse them then that is their right.

OP is being a goady fucker though, wants another sour discussion about bought and brought and was, I believe, hoping that this thread would have wrought that. Sadly for them, it's been taken over by linguists and pedants and thank goodness for that!

Wiccan · 06/08/2023 16:35

MorrisZapp · 06/08/2023 13:51

My mum's generation said 'natch' which is short for 'naturally'. Total insta speech, ca 1965.

Natch around here was slang for Cider.

Jamtartforme · 06/08/2023 16:36

My pet hate in terms of grammar is ‘we was’. The thing is I don’t even believe it’s an honest mistake a lot of the time (understandable), I see it used on socials by people I know who never say it in real life. I expect it’s part of the depressing ‘toning down my intelligence to have a broader social media appeal’ thing.

ImSoShiney · 06/08/2023 16:37

If find rigid thinkers far more irritating than the evolution of language.

squarecircled · 06/08/2023 16:40

Emz6103 · 06/08/2023 11:02

Yep the stupidest generation by far!! Read yesterday about a kid not wanting to go back to college, back to a dirty room to do chores and didn't want to do ",adulting" anymore!! Wanted to stay at home....... Possibly the most immuture generation ever, in the 70/80s at 21/22 you were an adult running your own home with a child. Now they don't want to do adulting and would prefer to stay at home and spend on nails, lip fillers fake tan, clothes and showing off on Instagram.....can't do that when you're running your own home!!

So much wrong with this I don't know where to start 😆

SerafinasGoose · 06/08/2023 16:41

Why can't the English teach their children how to speak?

MasterBeth · 06/08/2023 16:42

SarahShorty · 06/08/2023 13:14

People complain about 'grammar police', but it's that enforcement that helps to keep the English language from descending into to incomprehensible rubbish. I remember when people got into texting. With the exception of dealing with character limits, it unfortunately became normal to to say things like 'wotUup2' or 'u wot m8'. It's been in a downward spiral since.

Incomprehensible language won't survive. If people are using it to communicate, it's comprehensible.

MasterBeth · 06/08/2023 16:43

SerafinasGoose · 06/08/2023 16:41

Why can't the English teach their children how to speak?

English children can speak. They do it all the time

SarahShorty · 06/08/2023 16:46

SerafinasGoose · 06/08/2023 16:41

Why can't the English teach their children how to speak?

My Fair Lady. Brilliant musical.

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