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"Summer isn't summering" anyone get irritated by the stupid way people speak these days?

214 replies

ohbloodyhellll · 06/08/2023 10:18

I don't know what it is but I follow quite a lot of Instagram bloggers /vloggers and have noticed this lately
"Summer isn't summering"
"July isn't julying"
Honestly it's driving me mad
Is it just me who's noticed this stupidity?

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pictoosh · 06/08/2023 11:19

It's just fun with language isn't it? Being creative.
Stop moaning.

JeandeServiette · 06/08/2023 11:21

DaisyThistle · 06/08/2023 11:18

Another linguist here. Language is organic. I like how it grows and I like playful neologisms. Most of the examples here make me smile. Some make me cringe, but that's OK. I would hate language to be grey and formalised, for adaptation and creative development to be stifled, for a 'correct' version to be set in stone. The English language is at its most vibrant since Elizabethan times, because of the arrival of the internet.

I know that you're right, but can't we aspire for language to develop in a less puerile way? Creativity is great. Mass infantilisation less so.

Cazzovuoi · 06/08/2023 11:21

I’ll see your humans and raise you “hoomans” as one particular influencer says. She’s otherwise lovely but this makes me so irritated.

pictoosh · 06/08/2023 11:22

I like Platty Jubes and Cozzie Livs. I think the introduction of social media means a much more conversational manner of writing. I laugh at how casually clever people can be with the written word.

ssd · 06/08/2023 11:22

Emz6103 · 06/08/2023 11:02

Yep the stupidest generation by far!! Read yesterday about a kid not wanting to go back to college, back to a dirty room to do chores and didn't want to do ",adulting" anymore!! Wanted to stay at home....... Possibly the most immuture generation ever, in the 70/80s at 21/22 you were an adult running your own home with a child. Now they don't want to do adulting and would prefer to stay at home and spend on nails, lip fillers fake tan, clothes and showing off on Instagram.....can't do that when you're running your own home!!

Aren't you lovely.

VeridicalVagabond · 06/08/2023 11:23

The simple solution surely is to just stop following them then? Why are you even following a bunch of 20 something influencers?

I find I have little in common with them, just as I had little in common with people in their 30's and 40's when I was 20 and dying my hair pink and blue and wearing fishnets and listening to hair metal. Just follow people you like and find interesting and leave the young and foolish to be young and foolish. They'll be old and shaking their fists at the next generation's stupidity soon enough. As we've always been.

pictoosh · 06/08/2023 11:23

DaisyThistle · 06/08/2023 11:18

Another linguist here. Language is organic. I like how it grows and I like playful neologisms. Most of the examples here make me smile. Some make me cringe, but that's OK. I would hate language to be grey and formalised, for adaptation and creative development to be stifled, for a 'correct' version to be set in stone. The English language is at its most vibrant since Elizabethan times, because of the arrival of the internet.

Completely agree.

I'd say those who rail against it need to broaden their take on language.

JeandeServiette · 06/08/2023 11:24

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 06/08/2023 11:16

The same people say 'vacay', 'holibobs' and 'Platty Joobs'. IQs are dropping and/or orative skills are slipping. Probably both.

I love Platty Joobs (the phrase, not tye actual event) and I have an Oxbridge languages degree. I think my IQ and orative skills are ok <worries>.

Yes, worry. Grin It's the moment when you can't think of the intelligent phrase because the silly one has become ubiquitous that's frightening.

Do you think you're more sophisticated/ less susceptible in your other languages?

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/08/2023 11:28

That sort of thing doesn't bother me. What I really hate is Misuse of language. For example the word "Fact" has a specific meaning and it isn't "a thought that I have just had".Angry

RagzRebooted · 06/08/2023 11:28

I think language evolves all the time and that's fine. I also think slang and odd/familiar/twisted turns of phrase are fine, provided you're not trying to use them in a professional context. I use silly language like in the OP at times (mostly make my own up), as do my teens. I think it's a nice way to feel informal and closer to each other at home and also gives us something to laugh at and tease them about when they say things like "ballin', bussin'" etc.
I talk properly at work and my children have excellent vocabularies from being read to and reading for years. I took DD to a local production of a Shakespear play the other day and I think she followed it better than I did! Now, no one talks like that now (actually not sure they ever did!) and it's a completely different use of language to our norm, but nobody is complaining about that.

Having fun with words and language isn't a problem as long as you can adapt to context and function in different environments. I will admit to finding certain words/terms irrationally annoying but I don't come across them that often in real life. Avoiding msot social media has its upsides!

senua · 06/08/2023 11:31

I like Platty Jubes and Cozzie Livs.
I read a Platty Jube to be a Platitude (it matches my expectations of misspelling from the Chester Draws generation).
What on earth is a Cozzie Liv?

MasterBeth · 06/08/2023 11:32

Drews · 06/08/2023 10:48

I think it started when people used the word Google as a verb. 'Search on Google' has now become 'Google it'. So now instead of 'acting like an adult' we have 'adulting'. Or 'how to make this meal vegan' is now 'how to veganise this meal'.

Yes, before Google, no-one had ever created a verb from a noun...

Older people are always bitching about how younger people (often, younger women) use new, inventive language. But it's how language develops and why we don't talk like Chaucerian noblemen or Victorian peasants.

pictoosh · 06/08/2023 11:34

Cozzie Livs - cost of living crisis.

MasterBeth · 06/08/2023 11:34

Wiccan · 06/08/2023 11:15

Absolutely. I just don't listen to it anymore never heard so much winjing and moaning!

...she moaned.

KimberleyClark · 06/08/2023 11:36

Barrell · 06/08/2023 11:09

The one I hate is using “human” when referring to a person - eg. “my favourite human”.

I obviously exclude anyone who isn’t a human, particularly anyone of extraterrestrial origin.

Otherwise, please give it a rest.

Yes this. And “tiny humans” for babies.

phoenixrosehere · 06/08/2023 11:37

Emz6103 · 06/08/2023 11:02

Yep the stupidest generation by far!! Read yesterday about a kid not wanting to go back to college, back to a dirty room to do chores and didn't want to do ",adulting" anymore!! Wanted to stay at home....... Possibly the most immuture generation ever, in the 70/80s at 21/22 you were an adult running your own home with a child. Now they don't want to do adulting and would prefer to stay at home and spend on nails, lip fillers fake tan, clothes and showing off on Instagram.....can't do that when you're running your own home!!

Similar rhetoric by previous generations on new generations forgetting who had a hand in raising them and/or their parents.

Saying that, why does being adult have to mean becoming a parent and your one example doesn’t speak for the rest of the generation and is ridiculous when there are plenty of the new generation who don’t do the things you described and don’t care to.

Sounds more like you need to take a step away from social media/the internet if that’s what you believe.

Wiccan · 06/08/2023 11:37

MasterBeth · 06/08/2023 11:34

...she moaned.

What evva babe 😉

titchy · 06/08/2023 11:39

SarahShorty · 06/08/2023 11:13

The same people say 'vacay', 'holibobs' and 'Platty Joobs'. IQs are dropping and/or orative skills are slipping. Probably both.

Don't forget Cozzy Livs!

Tumbleweed101 · 06/08/2023 11:40

I've recently stayed with a friend in the US where we had great fun playing with our vocabulary and language and how differently we use the same words.

I think we play with language much more here, it seemed much more formal and correct the way they use it in the US. Was very interesting.

titchy · 06/08/2023 11:41

Cost of living.

Favourite human is ok as long as the actual favourite is a cat.

Pensioning is good, I might start using that Grin

senua · 06/08/2023 11:48

pictoosh · 06/08/2023 11:34

Cozzie Livs - cost of living crisis.

Thank you clarifying (I thinkConfused )
I'm not sure that that is an example of a fun and innovative way of using language. It sounds more like someone who can't cope with too many syllables in the one sentence.

wlana · 06/08/2023 11:49

Easily solved by not having Instagram or reading blogs. Even my teenagers don’t have Instagram. I think it contributes significantly to society’s problems.

Chocolatepumpkin · 06/08/2023 11:55

'Hacks' it is not a life hack it is how you actually do something!! 🤯 winds me up far more than necessary but cleaning a tap with a vinegar is not a hack.

pictoosh · 06/08/2023 11:58

Well it's subjective to the reader isn't it @senua ?

LetMeEnfoldYou · 06/08/2023 12:12

I don't think we can complain when MN goes wild whenever anyone says their washing gets 'darked on'.

It's fucking stupid, it's not wacky or hilarious or new.