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Topless abroad . Yes or no

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HowmuchcanispendatChristmas · 03/08/2023 16:03

Just after everyone's opinions. I'm on an all inclusive holiday . Nothing flash . European destination. Hot sunny . 3*. Would you feel offended if a female sunbathes topless at the pool? Just for context I have done , but put bikini top on to go in pool and her drinks . It's literally just going topless when laying on sunbed . More context age range is babies up to 70+ . Lots of different shapes and weights of people . Lots of bellies make and female and lots of big boobs on men. Like I say this is just for context . Just interested in people's opinions. I'm with my husband on holiday .

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Mothership4two · 05/08/2023 06:47

I have seen Bondi Rescue @AussieMum135 those sun worshippers are not all foreign tourists! 😅

Seriously, I'm a Brit but like you am very careful about the sun now and have indoctrinated my sons too. Even the cat gets sun block on his ears!

It is very 80's. I remember my Mum did it once in Greece ("everyone else was doing it") and came home with sunburnt nipples! Ouch

Borracha · 05/08/2023 06:53

I don’t really get the comments about wanting to avoid tan lines, because there are so many strapless, skimpy bikinis available that you can still get a tan pretty much everywhere apart from your nipples.

I realize I am in the minority but I actually find the idea of purposefully laying in the sun to get a tan quite weird and outdated. I’m all for vitamin D but I’m also really conscious about aging my skin and getting skin cancer. I love laying under an umbrella with a book or whatever, but find the concept of sunbathing a bit alien.

AdverbPlease · 05/08/2023 06:54

AussieMum135 · 05/08/2023 06:28

I would of thought it was very 80s....I don't care about your boobs.... but sunbathing....who does this now with everything we know about skin cancer and sun damage?? But I'm Australian and it's now drummed into us about covering up.

My Australian friend is the most cautious I know and very careful with sun cream. For obvious reasons, the public messaging is much stronger there.

I mean we have sun beds in this country 🤯 People like the OP haven’t got the message that basting yourself and focussing on avoiding ‘tan lines’ is utterly stupid.

AdverbPlease · 05/08/2023 06:55

Borracha · 05/08/2023 06:53

I don’t really get the comments about wanting to avoid tan lines, because there are so many strapless, skimpy bikinis available that you can still get a tan pretty much everywhere apart from your nipples.

I realize I am in the minority but I actually find the idea of purposefully laying in the sun to get a tan quite weird and outdated. I’m all for vitamin D but I’m also really conscious about aging my skin and getting skin cancer. I love laying under an umbrella with a book or whatever, but find the concept of sunbathing a bit alien.

You aren’t the minority amongst people I know. People I am friends with don’t want skin cancer.

StarlightLady · 05/08/2023 07:07

It’s not all about sunbathing though, l swim topless when il can, it feels nicer.

DrSbaitso · 05/08/2023 07:40

I did it some years ago in Spain. It was a quiet strip of beach with a handful of people around and passing by but there was no reaction. I'm not really a sun worshipper despite a Mediterranean origin; I was slathered in Factor 50. But it really was a lovely experience. It felt good to have some warm sunshine on parts that never normally see the light.

I don't think I'd do it in a busy place but I couldn't care less if others do. I can talk to my kids about boobs if they ask questions. They're just boobs, they're not going to hurt anybody. As PPs have said, those thong bikinis would seem far more sexual to me, not that there's anything wrong with women choosing to wear those either. Depending on context, revealing clothing is often more sexualised than a merely nude body.

Really don't care if my husband sees. He doesn't need to go to the beach if he wants to see boobs and I have no reason not to trust him. He makes it very clear how much he likes mine.

And also laughing at the uptight body shamers trying to claim only ugly women do it, as if that would be a valid issue even if it were true. Is that all you've got?

But I agree it's unwise these days due to camera phones and social media (unless that doesn't bother you).

browneyes77 · 05/08/2023 08:15

Tessabelle74 · 04/08/2023 22:44

Do you insist your husband keeps his t shirt on too? Or is it only female breast tissue that gives you the vapours?

My DP doesn’t have boobs. So that’s an idiotic comment.

I haven’t insisted on anything. And if you read my previous post you’ll see I have no issue with someone being top less.

I merely speculated that having your boobs out at a hotel pool if it’s a family hotel may not be as appropriate.

Wind your neck in.

5128gap · 05/08/2023 08:26

HowmuchcanispendatChristmas · 04/08/2023 22:40

Wow lots of opinions on here since I last checked. Thank you to everyone . I spent about an hour topless yesterday and had my top on today . But that's because it's my body ,my choice . If anyone is offended that's their issue. Everyone is entitled to their opinion . Someone remarked yesterday would I take my bottoms off and show my anus . Erm no because I don't want to and I'm not bothered about tan lines on my butt . Again my body my choice .

No one is disputing whether its your body and your choice, are they?
You knew from the start that you were entirely within your rights to be topless.I thought you were asking about social norms.
Provided it's legally permitted, no ones going to stop you, so spending a self conscious hour defiantly excercising your right to be topless seems rather unnecessary to prove a point that isn't disputed.
The patriarchy isn't about to crumble due to your bare breasts. In fact I'm sure it's one of the more popular 'feminist acts' as far as men are concerned.

Cakeandcoffeea · 05/08/2023 08:28

I’ve seen lots of women over the years with their boobs out sunbathing but they have been a lot older and it didn’t bother me at all. But I do think, if you’ve got it then flaunt it hunny. You keep that confidence because it’s a rare thing these days. I have 3 daughters so promoting body confidence is so important to me. Have a lovely holiday 😘

Gladyys · 05/08/2023 08:31

'They're just boobs, they're not going to hurt anybody'

No they aren't going to hurt anybody but we don't go semi naked generally do we. If they're 'just boobs' would you walk round your house topless or sit sunbathing in your garden topless for all the neighbours to see? Probably not because despite being just boobs we all tend to like our privacy regarding our bodies, usually.

'promoting body confidence is so important to me.'

Well body confidence is fine but being topless by a pool with families about would seem an odd thing to do, body confidence isn't about taking clothes off.

Gmary22 · 05/08/2023 08:33

At the beach fine, at the pool, no!

Hopelesscynic · 05/08/2023 08:34

Sunbathing isn't an 80s thing, I see people do it every single year i go to a (European) beach.
Also why do people keep talking about sun burned breasts? Your whole body could get sun burned if you didn't have the sense to apply the cream.

marshmallowfinder · 05/08/2023 08:36

Hopelesscynic · 05/08/2023 08:34

Sunbathing isn't an 80s thing, I see people do it every single year i go to a (European) beach.
Also why do people keep talking about sun burned breasts? Your whole body could get sun burned if you didn't have the sense to apply the cream.

Because legs, arms, face are exposed whilst wearing everyday clothes. Breasts are not, so it's very pale, tender skin there.

Lifeisapeach · 05/08/2023 08:37

At a family friendly place this would be a big no… why would I want my children looking at someones boobs around a resort pool.

They are part of the female sexual anatomy. Of course they will be sexualised. Go somewhere more appropriate like a nudist beach or adult only resort or whatever.

your body your choice erm how is that relevant here. Weren’t you asking if it’s acceptable?

My view is people should be modest (as is the case in some western cultures). If you want to go European then go and hang out with the locals at the beach.

marshmallowfinder · 05/08/2023 08:38

HowmuchcanispendatChristmas · 04/08/2023 22:40

Wow lots of opinions on here since I last checked. Thank you to everyone . I spent about an hour topless yesterday and had my top on today . But that's because it's my body ,my choice . If anyone is offended that's their issue. Everyone is entitled to their opinion . Someone remarked yesterday would I take my bottoms off and show my anus . Erm no because I don't want to and I'm not bothered about tan lines on my butt . Again my body my choice .

Well, why start a thread on it then, asking the question?

DrSbaitso · 05/08/2023 08:41

Gladyys · 05/08/2023 08:31

'They're just boobs, they're not going to hurt anybody'

No they aren't going to hurt anybody but we don't go semi naked generally do we. If they're 'just boobs' would you walk round your house topless or sit sunbathing in your garden topless for all the neighbours to see? Probably not because despite being just boobs we all tend to like our privacy regarding our bodies, usually.

'promoting body confidence is so important to me.'

Well body confidence is fine but being topless by a pool with families about would seem an odd thing to do, body confidence isn't about taking clothes off.

I can't believe I have to explain why context matters. If you don't see why going topless on a beach where it's allowed isn't comparable to doing it in church then I really can't help you.

body confidence isn't about taking clothes off.

It's about not letting negativity about your body stop you doing what you want to do. So if you want to sunbathe topless but the only thing stopping you is worrying that you aren't pretty enough, body confidence is about not letting that stop you.

And if you don't want your children seeing boobs, don't take them to a topless beach. That's on you.

These are really simple concepts that I don't believe are beyond you or anyone else. If you can't handle topless sunbathing because it sparks off whatever issues you've got, just own that you've got those issues. It's your problem, not anyone else's failing. Holiday somewhere else if you don't like it.

Swanfeet · 05/08/2023 08:46

This is such a weird thread. OP it feels like you’re just trying to pick a fight. It’s interesting looking at who you replied to.

Samlewis96 · 05/08/2023 08:50

Text123 · 03/08/2023 17:33

How far do you want to take it? What about bottomless? If not, why not?

Because boobs are sexualised, whether you like it or not.

Oh dear I must've damaged my kids then as often went topless ( even naked) at home with them around when they were children. Besides if you have kids there is often a baby that needs feeding also so is that something that should be hidden from kids cos it involves breasts?

As for topless sunbathing well no I wouldn't but that's dues to the fact that I don't do sunbathing. Be a case of burnt or bored within 10 mins lol. But don't give a flying fig is others are topless .

5128gap · 05/08/2023 08:59

There's something annoyingly 'cool girl' about this thread.
Some women want to go topless in permitted areas. Some don't. As has been the case since about 1970 something.
If you're one that does, lovely. Enjoy.
There really isn't any need to court the opinions of those who don't, other than as an excuse to announce how cool and liberated you are by comparison with other 'uptight' women.

Gladyys · 05/08/2023 09:03

DrSbaitso · 05/08/2023 08:41

I can't believe I have to explain why context matters. If you don't see why going topless on a beach where it's allowed isn't comparable to doing it in church then I really can't help you.

body confidence isn't about taking clothes off.

It's about not letting negativity about your body stop you doing what you want to do. So if you want to sunbathe topless but the only thing stopping you is worrying that you aren't pretty enough, body confidence is about not letting that stop you.

And if you don't want your children seeing boobs, don't take them to a topless beach. That's on you.

These are really simple concepts that I don't believe are beyond you or anyone else. If you can't handle topless sunbathing because it sparks off whatever issues you've got, just own that you've got those issues. It's your problem, not anyone else's failing. Holiday somewhere else if you don't like it.

Who mentioned topless in churches? I said to the pp who commented that 'they're only boobs' do they sunbathe topless in the back garden for neighbours to see and I would guess not.

Just do it on a beach where everyone is spread out. By a pool where everyone is in such close confines is an odd thing to do. Only the op can say why they really do it but I really don't think tan lines are an issue. How does she cope with a white arse?

MsBIobby · 05/08/2023 09:04

Oh dear I must've damaged my kids then as often went topless ( even naked) at home with them around when they were children.

You that as if it's not possible lol. Yes, some people are damaged by their parents having boundaries that are not the norm.

BUT being topless in front of young children is 100% normal. Mine are small and they see me unclothed. But guess what? I won't be doing it when they're older because breasts, as has been said, are a sexual part of the body. And it would be weird to ignore societal norms and inflict that on them.

Yes, in all cultures. It's not just the uptight Victorian prudes of Britain who know this.

Gladyys · 05/08/2023 09:04

'Oh dear I must've damaged my kids then as often went topless ( even naked) at home with them around when they were children.'

I don't think anyone has suggested it is weird around you're own actual family.

Maireas · 05/08/2023 09:07

@MsBIobby - just the uptight Victorian prudes of Britain? There are many, many countries where women do not go topless. By custom or law.

MsBIobby · 05/08/2023 09:10

Maireas · 05/08/2023 09:07

@MsBIobby - just the uptight Victorian prudes of Britain? There are many, many countries where women do not go topless. By custom or law.

I'm referring to what other people have said. I'm not describing myself as an uptight Victorian prude...

Maireas · 05/08/2023 09:24

Ah, sorry, @MsBIobby - I think I misunderstood your point!

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