Topless abroad . Yes or no

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Just after everyone's opinions. I'm on an all inclusive holiday . Nothing flash . European destination. Hot sunny . 3*. Would you feel offended if a female sunbathes topless at the pool? Just for context I have done , but put bikini top on to go in pool and her drinks . It's literally just going topless when laying on sunbed . More context age range is babies up to 70+ . Lots of different shapes and weights of people . Lots of bellies make and female and lots of big boobs on men. Like I say this is just for context . Just interested in people's opinions. I'm with my husband on holiday .

Well technically yes, it’s not illegal to do any of that in the nude. A naked couple recently went for a pub meal in the UK and despite uproar from some customers the pub was happy to accommodate them. Yes, nudists probably do see attractive people naked and feel attracted to them. But it’s what you do with that feeling that matters. Quietly think to yourself “that person’s hot” and go about your business, fine. Stand very obviously ogling, not ok. In my experience of nudist places it’s very respectful and non-sexual because people can exercise this little thing called self control and common courtesy, and also a load of naked people isn’t a novelty. It’s not really much different to appreciating or fancying an attractive passer-by with clothes on.

I also think a nude beach is totally different. If you take your kids to one you know what they're going to see. A nude beach is a level playing field.

I've been to nude beaches and seen lots of anuses. And I'm sure mine has been seen too. But I wouldn't want to be undressed around other people's children, because their parents haven't consented to that.

Also, I like my breasts being sexualised and I don't like other women dictating how I must feel about it.

Exactly. Sexualise your breasts in your own mind and with your partner, you don’t get to dictate that everyone else views them as sexual as well (or that everyone must feel as you do).

Thongs and skimpy bottoms have been around forever - I'm saying I dont particularly enjoy seeing it all hang out. Soak up the sun, swim and tan, enjoy yourself - but I don't want to have to see up your crack when you bend over to pick up your towel.

I sunbathe topless when it's appropriate. Yes in Spain, Greece pool or beach. I haven't in Turkey or now my DS is with me because at 16 he wouldn't want to see his mum's boobs.

It would be attention seeking if I was playing water polo/sat at the beach bar but that's not generally how it is.

It's odd that some posters see it as tacky - when I see a woman topless if I think anything it's that I'm happy that she is happy in her own skin. Surely that should be celebrated?

Both DP and I use nudist beaches in Europe - there's nothing tacky about that and generally its European couples keeping themselves to themselves without any exhibition.

Fair enough - Im just posting how I feel in response to the original question. She asked yes or no - I said no. You say obviously say yes.

Because it is all that matters - it’s her body. Some places have rules on it but if there’s not they yes, go for it. People can sit elsewhere and not look !! What’s the difference with say breast feeding ?
people need to grow up and accept people are comfortable with their own bodies - and why hide away for other peoples sake

This thread appears to be getting short on facts. I have previously responded earlier. As someone who used to go topless as well as my mother and my sister back in my late teens (I'm 40s now and still go topless) ) l should like to comment further on the comments made. To us it was the norm, incliuding with family and friends. I will focus on France as that is where l was brought up although UK born.

• Topless is quite normal on French beaches and outdoor hotel spa pools, especially but not exclusivly in the south.

• There is a huge difference between being naked and being topless.

• Being “wrinkly” or “older” is not an issue, it is not a beauty contest.

• Both genders have nipples, ours are on a 2 “mounds” that does not suddenly make them obscene.

• If this is causing problems for men or children, covering up does not redress this. We should not have to cover up because of this.

• ln France and, I believe Spain you may not walk along a promenade in swimwear, swimwear is reserved solely for beach and pool, but topless is not only accepted but is the norm.

Looking further afield women have a right to go topless in Copenhagen municipal pools and New York city parks.

Finally no woman has the right to judgementally police how another woman dresses, be it on the beach, in the poolor in the high street.

Finally no woman has the right to judgementally police how another woman dresses, be it on the beach, in the poolor in the high street.

Walking topless on the high street is weird and I would judge that, sorry. We're not playing the 'we're all women' top trumps card. A beach where it's normalised is fine. Pool with adult company only is fine.

Or : "Sexualise your penis in your own mind and with your partner, you don’t get to dictate that everyone else views it sexual as well (or that everyone must feel as you do)"

What if hairy Mike gave this as his reason for sunbathing with his cock out?

Let me guess. One rule for men and one rule for women.

@FoodCentre - I didn't actually suggest that anyone walks topless on the High Street.

ln France and, I believe Spain you may not walk along a promenade in swimwear, swimwear is reserved solely for beach and pool, but topless is not only accepted but is the norm
I would agree with accepted but certainly not the norm any longer. It certainly was in the 80s, but nowadays, topless women make a minority.

Finally no woman has the right to judgementally police how another woman dresses, be it on the beach, in the poolor in the high street.

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So it's not ok to walk topless on the high street, or it is?

Personally I wouldn't give a monkeys about seeing hairy Mike sunbathing with his penis out. A penis just being a penis isn't inherently sexual. Is he literally just lying there sunbathing or is it erect and being waved about in a harassing manner? There's a massive difference.

Personally yes, I would rather accept that particular aspect of misogyny that sexualises breasts, roll over and keep them covered. Because going topless isn't an act of empowerment that sticks two fingers up at the patriarchy. For the simple reason, that men frequently enjoy it very much.
There are many actions women can take to challenge misogyny. I'll be damned if I'm going to choose to push one that gives men the pleasure of seeing women's naked breasts.

When I breastfed, I never had to go topless. I made an opening in my clothes or lifted it slightly. Baby covered the rest.

If someone was to be titillated by that, they'd have to be actively seeking to do so, to sneak a peek. Not the same as being fully topless in the pool (or in the e high street)

@FoodCentre - No it's not appropriate for a woman (or a man come to that) to walk topless down the high street. Maybe I worded that badly; sorry! I was speaking about policing others in more general terms.

I still think it's alright for me to be topless at the pool or at the beach though.

Ok, fair enough. Thanks for clarifying!

I just don’t see the point. Tan lines is a flimsy excuse really, just move the straps whilst you’re sunbathing if it’s such a problem. Anyway who’s going to see them unless you walk about topless in your everyday life?

Down a high street everyone should cover up, female or male.

The OP is asking about sitting on a beach or a pool.