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AIBU?

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To remove SIL from the group chat?

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whyberude · 02/08/2023 10:35

We have a family group chat, my mum, my brothers, me, my husband and my brothers wife (SIL)

I just find her so rude. We all message each morning just to say good morning to which she never replies or messages good morning to us. It takes just a second of your day? Means a lot to my mum, her MIL who lives alone and can be lonely. Why can't you just say it?

She very, very rarely engages in conversation. If you @ her directly in the chat she will reply (which leads me to suspect the chat is muted and she only gets notifications when tagged...)

Only one in a blue moon do I click on the chat and see two blue ticks, and when I slide across she is the only one who hasn't read them. All the messages in the chat will be grey ticks for weeks at a time until one day they'll randomly be blue where she's finally clicked on us (and there must of been hundreds of missed messages by that point)

She will very rarely send a photo or video of her kids, to which I just ignore. If you don't want to bother with us I'm not bothering with you.

AIBU to just remove her? Clearly she doesn't want to be in it, so why does she need to be? It is just so rude.

OP posts:
marblesthecat · 02/08/2023 13:34

whumpthereitis · 02/08/2023 13:21

To be fair to the poor woman, she probably definitely didn’t anticipate that getting married meant forced induction into a WhatsApp human centipede.

Literally laughed out loud at whatapp human centipede. This thread is brilliant. Still waiting for the deletion message 😂

NewUserName2023 · 02/08/2023 13:35

Good grief! YABU - and hard work! I pity your SIL who can do nothing right.

KimWexlersPonyTail · 02/08/2023 13:37

WhatsApp doesn't equal being part of the family, ypu are totally batshit, how old are you?

Align · 02/08/2023 13:37

whyberude · 02/08/2023 11:01

I think there'd be very different responses if I posted this in relationships or chat, I forgot AIBU is just a pile on.

Please get your phone and type good morning, it doesn't even take a full second. How on earth is that intrusive? If you can't spend literally less than 1 second of your day on family that is rude... I don't see how it isn't rude.

No I don't like her because she makes no effort with us and is rude. We barely see my brother these days it's like the rest of us aren't good enough for her!

With this attitude, sounds like she's the one with high expectations piled on her and is quite rightly stepping back from the intensity.
A "good morning" every morning and analysing her messaging app use? I genuinely, genuinely feel for her. Overbearing in-laws can make you feel so miserable and on edge.

Askil · 02/08/2023 13:39

Please remove SIL from the family group chat. She will be forever indebted to you. Do it quickly!

nidgey · 02/08/2023 13:39

SmileyClare · 02/08/2023 13:28

For all you know she occasionally glances at the WhatsApp chat and thinks it’s sweet that you all wish each other Good Morning.
She makes an effort to put the odd photo or video on there.

Youve drawn all sorts of vile conclusions because she isn’t adhering to your unspoken rules.

My late mil used to accuse me of the things you’re throwing around: “thinking she’s better than everyone else” and “taking her son away from her” it’s nasty toxic behaviour.

Exactly this! We've a family WhatsApp, one sibling bores everyone with her holiday photos that maybe one person would respond to, my nephews and nieces only respond to happy birthday wishes to them or others, my mum will occasionally post about her great day out with one of my siblings or my dad...etc!

I'm also on a dog meet-up group, our neighbourhood group, school parents' groups etc - I do not have time to respond to every single one all the time unless it's relevant

It would drive most people mad to have to conform to their SIL's demands like this - people are individuals, as long as they're not outright hostile or rude you have to live and let live. And figs don't remove her, that would be completely dramatic.

Concernedfriend2023 · 02/08/2023 13:40

Honestly, this is insane. DP has a family whatsapp group that's a bit like this, so I left 🤣 Hopefully your SIL will find the courage to do so too! Are you saying your husband religiously says 'good morning' every day to his inlaws via whatsapp? Batshit.

Tanith · 02/08/2023 13:41

Sounds like The Waltons!

I despise Whatsapp and Facebook. I consider them necessary evils for keeping in touch with people who use them more frequently than I do.
I don't post unless I must; I'm always aware of their company policy that says anything posted belongs to them and I resent that.

Perhaps your SIL feels the same.

Alstoybarn · 02/08/2023 13:41

This cannot be real 🤣

Hibiscrubbed · 02/08/2023 13:42

I’ve met men with sisters like you OP, who are weirdly hostile and hateful to their brothers’ women. Odd…

Milkand2sugarsplease · 02/08/2023 13:42

No way would I be engaging to this level in a WhatsApp group of dhs family. Hell, I wouldn't be doing it in a group of my own family. Why does every person in the group need to wish the group good morning every day???

Ffsmakeitstop · 02/08/2023 13:43

Thank God I don't have WhatsApp. In case you haven't realised yet op you're bonkers as are all your family except sil.

Pushmepullu · 02/08/2023 13:43

Is your family name Walton?
G’night Johnboy.

Mizzl45 · 02/08/2023 13:43

part of the family or part of the cult? Sorry, but you sound far too intense.

whumpthereitis · 02/08/2023 13:43

Pushmepullu · 02/08/2023 13:43

Is your family name Walton?
G’night Johnboy.

Manson.

hot2trotter · 02/08/2023 13:45

I think you need to get a life.
Poor SIL. Who invited her to the group in the first place? If I was her I'd block you all to be honest.

QuaversAndRedbull · 02/08/2023 13:45

graceinspace999 · 02/08/2023 13:18

I sometimes think the world is divided into two groups- those who think WhatsApp is a great way to keep in touch and those who find it irritating and intrusive.

Personally I’m in the latter group.

I had to leave my family group as I began having psychotic fantasies about inviting the whole family to a cliff top picnic and releasing a herd of angry bulls to chase them over the top.

I even had to leave my cancer support group because I was fantasising about choking one member with his pink feather boa.

Anyway I feel kinda bad for this OP because it’s really hard to go through life thinking that when people don’t do as you do it’s a big deal.

It’s nowhere near a big deal and unfortunately life can show us what a big deal really is.

Try and enjoy your life and stop worrying about your SIL’s preferences,

I think it's a great way to keep in touch, but it can be intrusive at times but I think it's not WhatsApp itself thats intrusive its the mindset of some people who use it that's intrusive. The people who get mad about someone not messaging them every day would be the same people pre social media/pre internet who would expect half hour or longer telephone calls a few times week and take it as a personal snub if someone didn't wasn't free when the landline rings.

Your fantasies made me chuckle. I have a few people I'd like to send to that cliff top picnic if there's space. Grin I hope you're recovered/recovering from cancer and feel well.

WiddlinDiddlin · 02/08/2023 13:45

So, she does respond if you tag her - perfectly polite.

She doesn't join in the inane wittering. Again, reasonable.

Any time she does initiate contact with a pic of the kids - you ignore her...

Yup, you sound like hard work OP.

Oh and she may show up as 'active' or whatever on Whatsapp, doesn't mean she is. My whatsapp contacts would see me as 'active' because I use whatsapp on my PC as we have an admin chat on it for work, for handovers and anything we need to share. I would absolutely mute a family group of meaningless wittering as it would get in the way of my work.

FirstDayOfHoliyays · 02/08/2023 13:45

"Manson"

Bates 🤣

SunflowerSunflower · 02/08/2023 13:46

I have to say that this is a bit OTT OP. This is why I avoid using WhatsApp or other social media type apps - it’s so easy to offend someone by not reading their message or not liking it etc. I am in your SIL side here. Too much pressure on this group. I want to leave my family WhatsApp but am worried one of my rels will be offended like you are.

Different people use these apps differently. She may be prioritising her communication with her family and friends and that’s ok. Leave her be.

OoopsOhNo · 02/08/2023 13:46

Combusting · 02/08/2023 10:40

Jesus fucking christ.

Unless a reverse, I am not even sure where to begin with this one.

Totally agree with this!

AlwaysFoldingWashing · 02/08/2023 13:47

Surely the mandatory good morning text is only a token gesture anyway, it doesn't equal meaningful or genuine conversation. I would rather my family text me less often but when they actually wanted to talk rather than a tick box exercise of checking in.

You don't get to dictate the frequency of other people's conversations or dynamics of their relationships and if you're spending this much time thinking about it, you have time to actually go and see your mum or volunteer with isolated people who would welcome conversation

Nothingfallingdowntoday · 02/08/2023 13:47

I think I am your SIL. I think it is cute that you all communicate constantly but it is just not me to be always on. Yes you are muted. Just like all my other notifications.

Feel free to delete me. Your normal is not mine and I think you are rude not to appreciate we are all different.

fatherbrianeno · 02/08/2023 13:48

whyberude · 02/08/2023 11:01

I think there'd be very different responses if I posted this in relationships or chat, I forgot AIBU is just a pile on.

Please get your phone and type good morning, it doesn't even take a full second. How on earth is that intrusive? If you can't spend literally less than 1 second of your day on family that is rude... I don't see how it isn't rude.

No I don't like her because she makes no effort with us and is rude. We barely see my brother these days it's like the rest of us aren't good enough for her!

Well, AIBU is a question, which you have asked. And you seem not to be accepting the answer!

Hint: it is a huge, universal, unanimous, "YES!!!"

HTH

Tetchypants · 02/08/2023 13:53

Nothingfallingdowntoday · 02/08/2023 13:47

I think I am your SIL. I think it is cute that you all communicate constantly but it is just not me to be always on. Yes you are muted. Just like all my other notifications.

Feel free to delete me. Your normal is not mine and I think you are rude not to appreciate we are all different.

@Nothingfallingdowntoday do you genuinely think this is your SIL? If so, condolences, she sounds like really hard work.

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