to think that SAHM's with school-age children are in fact just stay at home people?

[Pissyflaps]

I'm going to get flamed backwards for this, but I really don't care. I'm also going to be accused of all manner of trollery, bite me.

It's my opinion, I want yours - so, SAHM's who's children are at school-all day, aren't they just stay at home people? Not a lot of parenting goes on as far as I can tell.

You beat me to it Wallof Silence. I was stunned how many mums work nights. Thought it was just me.

I worked evenings at a supermarket when mine were little as we needed the money - to be honest it was a big factor in the eventual split with dh although obviously there were other problems as well but it didn't help!

I could go back out to work again, I did when mine were first at school but when they were too old for childcare and not old enough IMO to be at home alone we hit a wall. Working full time was also crippling me literally as I have ongoing spinal degeneration so we made the decision to live more frugally and provide a more 'hands on' parenting style to secondary school children - it suits us .

You don't have clue what SAHMs do? Could you not hazard a guess that they do all the things during the day that WOHPs (without domestic staff) must have to do in the evenings or at weekends?

I do believe you are taking the pissy.

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They probably do all the stuff that WOHM's have to do at weekends and evenings but do it a lot more thorough. e.g 'mum I've no clean nickers' is probably never said in their houses.

Does it matter who does what. We do what we all have to to get by. Given the chance I would have loved to have stayed home when mine were infants/young juniors but couldnt. Probably prefer to work now though.

Pissyflasp - this 'debate ' has been on MN soooo many times , if you are that interested go have a search through threads.

Pissyflaps, as a SAHM can I ask what sort of work, you do that allows you to sit on mumsnet all day when you really should be working, I am unreasnable to think you are you a skiver.

x post with the dutchess.

Pissy, are you female at all?

If so then you could've hazarded a damn good guess at what SAHMs do all day....

Yes, I am one, I consider myself "retired". I od a lot of gardening and hobbies, which fit in between 9.30 and 2.45

If you want to talk unreasonble assumptions maybe all SAHMs think "you are self centred, money driven and don't give a monkey about your children and who looks after them" see it is really unhelpful to amke assumptions, we are all different and are all doing what is right for our families, you have obviously choosen to go to work so please go and do some.

oh FFS threads like this are REALLY getting on my TITS now.

Of course some SAHMs are lazy, unambitious and unmotivated and do sod all on their husband's / partner's salary. Others don't. Of course some WOHMs are lazy, unambitious and unmotivated and dishonestly earn a salary by doing sod all in the office or getting away with the minimum and lounging on MN. Others don't.

I don't see how you can come up with your generalisation/incitement to hatred but there seems to be a certain amount of bitterness buried somewhere in you and your time might be better spent addressing that.

My dp goes to the toilet at work and times himself so he can tell me with great satisfaction how much his daily ablutions earnt him today

My name is Louise, i am Lucy Ellens mum, i am neither a SAHM or a WOHM or WAHM i am a WOMAN who is sick of having to wear a label - grrrr.

I think women struggle enough to decide if their decision, whatever it is, is the right one for their families without other fucking women taking it upon themselves to judge!!

It's far too early in the day for the wine/gin

Perhaps the OP has been drinking buckfast bought as soon as the corner shop opened this morning.

Who cares?

I second lucyellensmum. Wouldn't life be so much easier if as women we supported one another in decisions they have made, even if they're not decisions we might have made ourselves? Why are women so critical of one another all the time? I suspect it is to make themselves feel reassured and bolstered about the choices they have made themselves.

Pissyflap = journalist who is doing reseacrh for Sunday Paper ??

First post under that name .

very lazy journalism .

Perhaps MN towers should check her out ?

Well said LEM!

Ouf, posted in such haste grammar arseways, can't even begin to correct my second sentence.

You must be lacking in imagination Pissy if you dont see the parenting that goes on, and the issues in finding work that fits between school hours, and half term, and holidays, and staff inset days, etc. How much time off do you think working parents get? Enough to take off around 2-3 months per year for various school holidays?

LEM, I was just thinking about you whilst I slaved over my ironing... not in a perverted way or anything...just wondering how you were

i spose SAHM is a new term.

it used to be house wife,

then household manager.

theres nowt wrong with a bit of perversion among friends Im OK thanks, we are having a bit of a financial melt down, again! but i have decided to go back to work, possibly part time, so what that makes me in the SAHM/WOHM stakes i'll never know. I will, it seems be like those pictures in the kiddies books, where you have to mix and match the heads and bodies - hmmmmm im raving now