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I'm fucking livid. Am I allowed to be livid? Because I am.

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Fuckingfumin · 30/07/2023 19:30

Did I mentioned that im livid?

Both DH and I work full time.
he works Saturdays.

we have children, one of whom has additional needs and is an awful violent, abusive individual.
We are getting support from psychiatrists and we have a key worker. You may link this to my previous threads.

Its my FIL's 80th, we were all supposed to go to theirs 1.5 hours away for a surprise lunch.

Only DH went because we didn't want a violent outburst our 12 year old and for him to call us all cunts and possibly throw a chair at us, like he does.

So DH decided he would go alone.

He was planning on leaving at 11am.

He didn't bother hauling his arse out of bed until 9.30am.

Tonigbt I'm putting the smallest to bed, he's asleep and 12 year old calls me in tears asking me to collect him as his bully has just punched him repeatedly in the head.

I call DH thinking it's 7pm so he must be round the corner as it's quite late.

no, he's just left.

So I have to wake up and drag out a crying pre-schooler to rescue the other one Who is now throwing things round his room in a rage as per.

Im absolutely livid that DH has just left.

Why the fuck did he need to stay until 7pm? When he knows full fucking well what it's like here.

You go for a birthday lunch, you leave by 5, 6 latest surely??

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WeeWillyWinkie9 · 30/07/2023 22:53

MerinoCashmere · 30/07/2023 22:50

I don’t have ND kids but I agree that that poster’s views are potentially very damaging to families.

Damaging to help families? It really isn't damaging not to let kids do what the hell they want but to help them.

JenWillsiam · 30/07/2023 22:53

WeeWillyWinkie9 · 30/07/2023 22:42

Well what strategies did you teach him to use and why does he not use them? What did you teach him about right and wrong and does he understand this, looks like he doesn't understand it or he wasn't taught it if it isn't a choice behaviour.

@WeeWillyWinkie9 are you taking the piss? Seriously. Get off the thread. Anyone with a kid with any kind of neuordisability is going to think you’re ridiculous. At best.

Fuckingfumin · 30/07/2023 22:53

WeeWillyWinkie9 · 30/07/2023 22:51

I would be thankful that you weren;t a parent I had to deal with, those who discriminate against staff with ASD are the worst.

Ahhhhh are you a TA who works with ND children and thinks they understand them entirely? At home and at school?

Do any of them have just ADHD with ODD and PDA?

Or do they all generally have ASD?

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JenWillsiam · 30/07/2023 22:53

@WeeWillyWinkie9 are you taking the piss? Seriously. Get off the thread. Anyone with a kid with any kind of neuordisability is going to think you’re ridiculous. At best.

Point proven thank you!

BrunoMarzipan · 30/07/2023 22:57

@WeeWillyWinkie9 what are you on about?! Yes, us parents of ND children are obviously the most discriminatory demographic you deal with.
why are you being so rude and trying to fight everyone?

JenWillsiam · 30/07/2023 22:58

WeeWillyWinkie9 · 30/07/2023 22:54

Point proven thank you!

Hardly. You’re utterly ignorant as to the complexities.

WeeWillyWinkie9 · 30/07/2023 22:58

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WeeWillyWinkie9 · 30/07/2023 22:59

JenWillsiam · 30/07/2023 22:58

Hardly. You’re utterly ignorant as to the complexities.

It is it shows you do not apply what you think across the board to those with ND, you pick and choose on who to apply your beliefs to, why is that?

Fuckingfumin · 30/07/2023 22:59

WeeWillyWinkie9 · 30/07/2023 22:54

Point proven thank you!

How?

You also said that those who disagreed with you are discriminating to children who are ND, when they are clearly the opposite.

Can you explain how, for both those things please?

Im the one who has had wine but the more you post the more increasingly bizarre you seem.

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Fuckingfumin · 30/07/2023 23:00

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So what's your job and what's your book then?

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bunnypenny · 30/07/2023 23:01

Fuck me. There are a load of twats on this thread. Mumsnet at its empathetic finest.

WeeWillyWinkie9 · 30/07/2023 23:01

BrunoMarzipan · 30/07/2023 22:57

@WeeWillyWinkie9 what are you on about?! Yes, us parents of ND children are obviously the most discriminatory demographic you deal with.
why are you being so rude and trying to fight everyone?

Yeah they do I see so many parents who discriminate against staff who are ND it is typical to be fair. It seems odd that people don't understand that kids who are ND grow up into adults who should also be treated as their child is.
I'm just proving a point, people make excuses for the child because of his needs, now why is no one doing the same to me? I mean surely the same goes? yay or nay?

WeeWillyWinkie9 · 30/07/2023 23:02

Fuckingfumin · 30/07/2023 22:59

How?

You also said that those who disagreed with you are discriminating to children who are ND, when they are clearly the opposite.

Can you explain how, for both those things please?

Im the one who has had wine but the more you post the more increasingly bizarre you seem.

They proved they do not apply what they think across the board and are hypocrites.

supersonicginandtonic · 30/07/2023 23:03

@WeeWillyWinkie9 no most parents of neuro diverse children give reasons for their child's behaviour not excuses. There is a difference

WeeWillyWinkie9 · 30/07/2023 23:04

Fuckingfumin · 30/07/2023 23:00

So what's your job and what's your book then?

My job it to turn these kids around which I do.

JenWillsiam · 30/07/2023 23:04

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“Have all those or whatever they’re called”. No. Stay away from those kids. Well away.

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 30/07/2023 23:04

WeeWillyWinkie9 · 30/07/2023 23:01

Yeah they do I see so many parents who discriminate against staff who are ND it is typical to be fair. It seems odd that people don't understand that kids who are ND grow up into adults who should also be treated as their child is.
I'm just proving a point, people make excuses for the child because of his needs, now why is no one doing the same to me? I mean surely the same goes? yay or nay?

Well generally, we treat children and adults differently. Kids don't have the emotional intelligence adults have. Kids often don't have the tools and techniques adults have. We make allowances for kids on the basis that they haven't had the experiences adults have had nor are they mature enough to be held fully responsible for themselves. Do you want to be treated like a child?

WeeWillyWinkie9 · 30/07/2023 23:05

supersonicginandtonic · 30/07/2023 23:03

@WeeWillyWinkie9 no most parents of neuro diverse children give reasons for their child's behaviour not excuses. There is a difference

I see many doing quite the opposite - some give explanations some excuse it. I see good parenting and I see piss poor parenting.

SmellsLikeTeenSpirits · 30/07/2023 23:05

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“Whatever they are called”….? “Manuals”…So you are not for real. You have no qualifications in this space and may in fact be an outright impostor on here for some weird kicks.

I do not discriminate against anyone with ASD or any other subset of neurodiversity. We, the neurodiverse, are 37% of the population so we’re not that special.

You are a charlatan and a fool.

WeeWillyWinkie9 · 30/07/2023 23:06

JenWillsiam · 30/07/2023 23:04

“Have all those or whatever they’re called”. No. Stay away from those kids. Well away.

Well it changes with whatever book they release, do you not know that they change the names often? I will not, I will help them as I always have and have good success with them.

Fuckingfumin · 30/07/2023 23:06

WeeWillyWinkie9 · 30/07/2023 23:04

My job it to turn these kids around which I do.

You haven't answered any of my questions.

And I think that's because you're still talking out of your bottom.
For a split second I gave you the benefit of the doubt. But now I know you're just bananas.

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JenWillsiam · 30/07/2023 23:07

WeeWillyWinkie9 · 30/07/2023 23:06

Well it changes with whatever book they release, do you not know that they change the names often? I will not, I will help them as I always have and have good success with them.

It literally does not. There’s this amazing tool - the ICD - refer to it. And stay away from kids. All kids.

WeeWillyWinkie9 · 30/07/2023 23:07

SmellsLikeTeenSpirits · 30/07/2023 23:05

“Whatever they are called”….? “Manuals”…So you are not for real. You have no qualifications in this space and may in fact be an outright impostor on here for some weird kicks.

I do not discriminate against anyone with ASD or any other subset of neurodiversity. We, the neurodiverse, are 37% of the population so we’re not that special.

You are a charlatan and a fool.

Yes as they change the names often with each manual they release why is that a bad thing to point out that they vote on the name changes?
Yes you do as you are doing now. You are proving to me that you certainly do.

QueenoftheNimbleFlyingCat · 30/07/2023 23:07

HungoverBeforeDrunk · 30/07/2023 20:10

I find it really really hard to be only kind and sympathetic to someone who describes their own child as "an awful violent, abusive individual". He's 12. He is disabled. I am a bit shocked at how a lot of posters think this is fine. Nit saying the OP isn't struggling, but this child needs some support, and fast.

The OP has said repeatedly that she is getting help for her 12yo though?

Yes, the way in which the OP described her child isn't the nicest but she is being constantly violently abused, it's hard to stay calm and therapeutic constantly, sometimes you need to vent. I very much doubt the OP says this to her child's face.

OP, YANBU to feel how you feel but please try and cut your DH some slack. It's his dad's 80th and he was probably trying to avoid home - perhaps see if you can get some respite next weekend?

JenWillsiam · 30/07/2023 23:07

Fuckingfumin · 30/07/2023 23:06

You haven't answered any of my questions.

And I think that's because you're still talking out of your bottom.
For a split second I gave you the benefit of the doubt. But now I know you're just bananas.

Reading further comments I’m going with bored weird troll.

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