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I'm fucking livid. Am I allowed to be livid? Because I am.

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Fuckingfumin · 30/07/2023 19:30

Did I mentioned that im livid?

Both DH and I work full time.
he works Saturdays.

we have children, one of whom has additional needs and is an awful violent, abusive individual.
We are getting support from psychiatrists and we have a key worker. You may link this to my previous threads.

Its my FIL's 80th, we were all supposed to go to theirs 1.5 hours away for a surprise lunch.

Only DH went because we didn't want a violent outburst our 12 year old and for him to call us all cunts and possibly throw a chair at us, like he does.

So DH decided he would go alone.

He was planning on leaving at 11am.

He didn't bother hauling his arse out of bed until 9.30am.

Tonigbt I'm putting the smallest to bed, he's asleep and 12 year old calls me in tears asking me to collect him as his bully has just punched him repeatedly in the head.

I call DH thinking it's 7pm so he must be round the corner as it's quite late.

no, he's just left.

So I have to wake up and drag out a crying pre-schooler to rescue the other one Who is now throwing things round his room in a rage as per.

Im absolutely livid that DH has just left.

Why the fuck did he need to stay until 7pm? When he knows full fucking well what it's like here.

You go for a birthday lunch, you leave by 5, 6 latest surely??

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SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 30/07/2023 22:15

HungoverBeforeDrunk · 30/07/2023 22:11

I don't ask him, no.

Well maybe you should.

I mean that.

You can carry on doing what you are doing, listening to all the lovely posters who are giving you hugs, expressing sympathy, repeating how shit the situation is, how crap life is for u, how helpless you are and how nothing can be done.

Or, you could try and do something different.

If you are truly truly desperate. If you have tried nearly everything and nothing is working, then maybe you have nothing to lose by listening to the "patronising" or "disgraceful" posters who dare to suggest alternatives.

Maybe you should ask him OP.

Maybe you should.

She's working with professionals now who will know the whole story, not just a few snippets from posts online. I'm sure she is trying everything she can, following their advice etc instead of following, quite frankly, weird advice by strangers on the internet who've never met her or her child

ladyvivienne · 30/07/2023 22:16

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BlackeyedSusan · 30/07/2023 22:16

Fuckingfumin · 30/07/2023 19:49

Younger DC would never go. He would spend the whole time crying and asking for me.

Unfortunately because he is witnessing which is essentially domestic violence, he is understandably clingy and tearful and never wants to leave my side.

We aRe getting support with this finally though, after a year of screaming out for help in all directions. But the damage is done.

You are bloody lucky to get support after only a year...

..from this completely fucked up broken system...have they blamed it all on you yet?

It's so awful that getting any support is thought lucky.

Anyway it's bloody shit isn't it? Constant end-of-tetherness and possible meltdowns.

SmellsLikeTeenSpirits · 30/07/2023 22:18

HungoverBeforeDrunk · 30/07/2023 22:11

I don't ask him, no.

Well maybe you should.

I mean that.

You can carry on doing what you are doing, listening to all the lovely posters who are giving you hugs, expressing sympathy, repeating how shit the situation is, how crap life is for u, how helpless you are and how nothing can be done.

Or, you could try and do something different.

If you are truly truly desperate. If you have tried nearly everything and nothing is working, then maybe you have nothing to lose by listening to the "patronising" or "disgraceful" posters who dare to suggest alternatives.

Maybe you should ask him OP.

Maybe you should.

I’m pretty sure that in her response to your previous post OP said she didn’t ask him because he is already saying that he doesn’t know why he behaves like this and that she is comforting him and reassuring him of her love. I’d hazard a guess that she has at some point tried to get some insight into what triggers him. She sounds like she’s tried/ trying pretty much everything. Her original post was not looking for advice on parenting her son. Maybe you should leave it alone now?

ItsNotRocketSalad · 30/07/2023 22:18

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NeinDanke · 30/07/2023 22:19

OP you started the thread referring to your son as an 'awful, violent individual'..is it any wonder that people are making suggestions to you... that opening post is very different to your most recent post ..really cannot see why so many posters believe every word and hold you up as some kind of saint. How dare anyone ask questions of a random person posting in AIBU.

I don't think people think OP is a saint - I personally think that she's HUMAN. I've never referred to my child that way but my child is NT and I've never experienced anything remotely like the circumstances she describes. Who knows how I would react if I was in that situation?

Her son will never read what she wrote when she was at the end of her tether but SHE can read all the goady replies from sanctimonious people. It must be great being perfect!

HungoverBeforeDrunk · 30/07/2023 22:19

Thegoodbadandugly · 30/07/2023 22:13

Where the hell am I kicking someone when they are down by suggesting things?

Thegoodbadandugly

Don't take it personally. I feel like you are the one being kicked here.

There is only one narrative allowed on this thread. We all have to sympathise endlessly with OP and not disagree with anyone, and not suggest ways forward, and not point out anything she could change. If we don't stick with this narrative (even though this is AIBU, not one of the more supportive boards), then we get sworn at, told we are a disgrace and shouted at.

It's a super weird thread where all the nasty, swearing people are having a go at the perfectly polite people who are in the minority and who haven't really done anything wrong!

Bellumbella · 30/07/2023 22:19

Words fail me with you, Thegoodbadandugly.

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 30/07/2023 22:20

Thegoodbadandugly · 30/07/2023 22:13

Where the hell am I kicking someone when they are down by suggesting things?

You've told OP she is doing it all wrong. That she is punishing her 12 yo, that her 4 yr old is missing out, that she hasn't tried de-escalating techniques enough, she hasn't stuck by this, that and the other. And now that she doesn't deserve support.

Funnily enough, constantly telling someone that they aren't doing a good enough job is a massive boot in the face.

Bellumbella · 30/07/2023 22:21

You haven’t done anything wrong?
Have you no ounce of sympathy, empathy, fellow-feeling, awareness of your patronising stance, lack of sensitivity?

BlackeyedSusan · 30/07/2023 22:22

Ps. All neurodiverse kids are different. Just because something worked with one doesn't mean it will work with another.

Fuckingfumin · 30/07/2023 22:22

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Good! And please stay out.

Thankfully the CAMHS psychiatrist is waaaay more informed and knowledgeable than you!
She explained to him exactly what he has violent outbursts, it really helped us make sense of the situation.

So yes, please stay out.

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Nanny0gg · 30/07/2023 22:22

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There could well be other issues as well.

But how would the OP know as she's only just getting the help she needs.

Also, I thought one of the sayings was: You've met one person with autism/adhd/etc then you've met one person with autism/adhd/etc

They're individuals

Nanny0gg · 30/07/2023 22:23

HungoverBeforeDrunk · 30/07/2023 22:19

Thegoodbadandugly

Don't take it personally. I feel like you are the one being kicked here.

There is only one narrative allowed on this thread. We all have to sympathise endlessly with OP and not disagree with anyone, and not suggest ways forward, and not point out anything she could change. If we don't stick with this narrative (even though this is AIBU, not one of the more supportive boards), then we get sworn at, told we are a disgrace and shouted at.

It's a super weird thread where all the nasty, swearing people are having a go at the perfectly polite people who are in the minority and who haven't really done anything wrong!

The imagination and empathy of a gnat.

Look - no swearing...

WeeWillyWinkie9 · 30/07/2023 22:24

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 30/07/2023 22:00

Fab, well go grab your coat and head on round to OPs so you can magically change her and her DSs life. Have you written a book? You could make millions.

Yeah it is a best seller, why haven't you bought it yet? I have!

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 30/07/2023 22:24

WeeWillyWinkie9 · 30/07/2023 22:24

Yeah it is a best seller, why haven't you bought it yet? I have!

You bought your own book?

HungoverBeforeDrunk · 30/07/2023 22:25

I give up.

Carry on doing what your doing OP

Only listen to the posters who think your a saint.

Ignore all those challenging you, suggesting ways forward, or daring to not agree.

Hope it all works out for you, and especially your children.

I can't believe mumsnet sometimes! I'm out.

WeeWillyWinkie9 · 30/07/2023 22:25

ladyvivienne
Completely agree with you! Thank you.

SmellsLikeTeenSpirits · 30/07/2023 22:25

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Another deeply unhelpful one size fits all response. Maybe OP’s son has AuDHD with a side order or ODD and PDA? Having a kid with ADHD doesn’t make you the authority. Or give you the right - on minimal info - to write it down to poor parenting. I’m glad you’re out. And again she wasn’t looking for your thoughts on her parenting:

WinterDeWinter · 30/07/2023 22:26

RedToothBrush · 30/07/2023 21:44

So why is she plastering it all over the internet then, inviting comments from anyone and everyone?

god, I’ve just remembered who you are. You’re exactly the same as you were 10 years ago.

Fuckingfumin · 30/07/2023 22:26

HungoverBeforeDrunk · 30/07/2023 22:25

I give up.

Carry on doing what your doing OP

Only listen to the posters who think your a saint.

Ignore all those challenging you, suggesting ways forward, or daring to not agree.

Hope it all works out for you, and especially your children.

I can't believe mumsnet sometimes! I'm out.

I never came here for advice on my child, to be challenged or have suggestions.

I came on here to ask if I was being unreasonably livid about my husband.

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WeeWillyWinkie9 · 30/07/2023 22:26

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 30/07/2023 22:24

You bought your own book?

Yes I have

Olive19741205 · 30/07/2023 22:27

NewName122 · 30/07/2023 21:13

To be fair, imagine saying that about your own child. It's not nice.

Oh behave. She didn't say it to her child's face did she? She's venting on an anonymous forum. Stop being so sanctimonious. This thread is absolutely fucking shocking. I've been on here for years and this is one of the worst threads I've seen of an OP being attacked and vilified.

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 30/07/2023 22:27

My point Willy was that you were obviously taught techniques and had support from somewhere. You didn't just magically know how to deal with everything. OP is learning from professionals right now. Her son is learning from professionals right now. So they won't yet have all the tools they need. They will hopefully have them one day, but right now, they are still learning...

Maddy70 · 30/07/2023 22:30

WinterDeWinter · 30/07/2023 20:43

Bully for you. You should not extrapolate from your own situation onto the OPs. You must know that there are massive gradations and variations between children - but mainly, you shouldn't have done it because it's fucking mean and smug and bullying and kicking a woman when she's down.

God what a ridiculous post. Should her husband never leave the house?

How is suggesting that she is being unreasonable and making valid helpful suggestions bullying.