I voted for Brexit ‘I voted for Brexit and was told it wouldn’t affect expats – now I can’t live in my £13,000 Italian house’

[OhNoOhNo]

Struggling to work up any sympathy…

https://inews.co.uk/news/world/brexit-voted-wouldnt-affect-expats-cant-live-italian-house-2508493?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=paulchown%2Fmagazine%2FBrexit+Reality+

You have to have general elections and give people a vote.

There was no necessity to give people like you the chance to cause the damage you have.

And you still haven't told us what the benefits are.

So why the fuck did you vote leave then? You could have abstained, voting wasn't compulsory. You could have spoilt your paper or heaven forbid, vote to remain.

Yet you chose to side with a load of uneducated racists and assumed that we would be able to keep all the benefits of being in the EU, without actually being in the EU and when, surprise surprise, it hasn't turned out that way, you're blaming the government who've always put their own personal interests ahead of the average person anyway.

"I voted Brexit for many reasons, they are very good reasons but I am not going to tell you the reasons"

"I will vote Brexit again because of the benefits, they are very good benefits but I am not going to tell you the benefits"

rinse and repeat

write 200 words defending a decision to vote for brexit without any reference to the benefits you expected to see

Defending a decision to vote for Brexit without referencing expected benefits involves focusing on principles and values that underlie the choice.

1. Sovereignty and Autonomy: Some voters were driven by the desire for greater control over the country's laws and governance, viewing Brexit as a path to self-determination.
2. Democratic Process: For others, participating in the Brexit referendum was an expression of democratic ideals, giving people a direct say in their country's future.
3. Emotional and Symbolic Factors: National identity and cultural considerations played a role for some, who saw Brexit as symbolizing specific values or beliefs.
4. Reaction to Globalization: Brexit might have represented a way to assert local control amid the challenges and complexities of globalization.
5. Influence of Leadership: Trust in certain politicians or campaigners advocating for Brexit might have swayed some voters, regardless of specific policy outcomes.
6. Personal Ethics and Philosophy: Individual ethical beliefs or philosophies about sovereignty and governance might also have guided some to support leaving the EU.

In essence, the decision to vote for Brexit may be a complex tapestry of personal, emotional, philosophical, and democratic considerations, transcending mere calculation of potential gains or losses.

She probably voted to leave to stick it to Cameron. 🙄

And would vote the same again somehow expecting a different result.

Voting in a general election at least comes around every 4 years or so. People can re-evaluate and make different choices each time if they want.
Brexit is a disaster we may never recover from IMO.
I doubt we will ever have the opportunity tbh.

She wasn’t the only one. I reckon a lot of people did.

Sovereignty and Autonomy: Some voters were driven by the desire for greater control over the country's laws and governance, viewing Brexit as a path to self-determination

It will be interesting to see how that one plays out if the current government make any progress with changing or even tearing up much of the current, EU directed employment rights and health, safety and environmental legislation currently in place before they're voted out of office.

At least they've finally accepted that their ridiculous 'sunset regulations' that they were so determined to plough on with couldn't be implemented in any sort of sensible fashion by the end of this year deadline.

People might regret voting leave once they find they're no longer protected by the working time directive or that it's legal to dump large amounts of hazardous waste in watercourses.

People vote conservative when they know that will cost people their house and home, and when they know it will acre up the NHS. But that's their right. I don't agree with their choice to vote conservative, but I respect they have a different opinion and didn't vote them intentionally so someone could lose their job and home. I don't see why people can respect the opinion of those that voted brexit. Im not the only one who voted brexit. I am not ignorant, racist or stupid for doing som I voted brexit for many reasons and thats ok. You didn't vote brexit for many reasons and that's ok to. You cannot blame me for your losses. I feel deeply sorry for you if these horrible things have happened. The conservatives cost my brother his mental health and home, but I don't blame conservator voter's for that

Well, maybe you should?

The conservatives have this policy to defund the NHS because people vote for them, these folk should be held to account by you.

Voting is a privilege and carries rights and responsibilities, you re treating it as some sort of hobby or entertainment.

Just to be clear that was what ChatGPT dreamed up.

I know it's childish, but when it's clear an AI chatbot has more smarts that an real life self confessed brexit voter you realise some tropes are true.

I could have asked for 500, 1000 or 10,000 words. I still could.

I know of two people in our village who openly admit they voted Leave to "See what would happen" as they put it "throw the whole pack of cards into the air"

However, most leave voters i know do regret their vote, they really did believe not much would change....

In 2019 I went on holiday to France, and stayed in an Airbnb owned by a lovely retired English couple. It was a large house that they’d split into two, they stayed in one half and let the other half out on Airbnb. They spent around 6 months of the year out there.

Conversations around the pool turned political one day…and yep, you guessed it, they voted for brexit 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

I know of two people in our village who openly admit they voted Leave to "See what would happen" as they put it "throw the whole pack of cards into the air"

Our planet is the driver of catastrophic events - we don't really need to add to them any more.

I knew it was AI, but I was under the impression that AI sourced it's material from trawling the internet, and it's an often quoted Brexit 'benefit' that we'll be free to 'take back control' which, when pressed is usually explained by 'no longer having to throw back dead fish' or 'pay VAT on sanitary products' when in reality there are significantly more protections from EU legislation and other benefits than there are downsides when something sometimes doesn't work as well as it should

What doesn't help anyone is people not taking responsibility for the consequences of their vote and insisting they'd vote the same way again, despite the shitshow that it's causing.

How gracious of you to forgive Conservative voters for your brother's, not your, difficulties. I worked for a MH charity helping people like your brother. My job was funded by the EU. I no longer work helping people like your brother because you voted Brexit.

You are not sorry, you don't care, it's not your fault, you'd do it again. Why?

Thank you @CoffeeRevelsForever.

And you're an expert when it comes to the topics on which we vote ? Have you ever excluded yourself from a vote because you feel you don't properly understand the issues and proposed ways forward ?

But voting for a representative - who presumably can be advised by people who know their subject - is not the same as voting for a concept.

And that's all Brexit is. A concept. Even with 52% of a notional population and having been delivered and done with, it's still a concept. Even now, you can't get two people, let alone 17 million to agree on a single definition.

so, as I said @HaveToHideAsAnon upset about Remainers describing you as stupid, nothing to say when leading Leave campaigners do.

You vote for a representative who is de-facto constrained by a party whip and personal ambition to follow a manifesto that outlines policies on a range of complicated topics.

We were given the right to vote on Brexit. I wish the UK hadn't voted to leave but it did. Brexit is also the major constitutional question of our time. Such issues are often decided with mass votes.

Complaining about voters choosing to exercise their right to vote because they vote in a way of which I disapprove is both pointless and anti-democratic.

In any event, this is all shouting into an increasingly small and angry echo chamber. Banging on about Brexit/EU membership is a minority pursuit.

Where did I say I was an expert? Stop putting words in other people's mouths.

Banging on about Brexit/EU membership is a minority pursuit.

You live in an EU country?

So we should wheesht and #BeKind to the fuckwits who wrecked the country @BritinEU?

Not going to happen.

Ok, so let's assume you are right. Let's assume for the sake of argument, that I voted brexit because I'm a thick, ignorant, uneducated racist.

What do you mean by that?

I guess you might mean that I'm not smart, or at least not as smart as you. That I haven't had access to the same educational opportunities. Perhaps you mean I didn't understand the full social and economic impact of brexit in the same way a civil servant, researcher or economist might have.

Perhaps you mean that I saw immigration not as the great asset to social and economic growth that you saw it as, but I instead saw it as a threat to me, my community, my family and my job and consequently my ability to put food on the table for my children.

And perhaps as a result of all the above, although I was sceptical, I was more desperate and wanted more to believe the lies spun to me about how brexit might improve my situation, improve the NHS, give some.money back to the country.

What then can you do about all this? If I was you, I'd use those big brains of yours to conduct research, influence policy makers, influence schools and the education system to improve the massive socio-economic inequalities which exist in the UK today. Perhaps you might want to spend time finding ways to ensure schools teach kids about brexit and its impact, the benefits of EU membership. Perhaps you might want to involve yourself in setting up community groups which enhance inclusion and the value of diversity. Perhaps you might contribute to ways that young people can feel empowered in society today, can understand politics and economics, can feel skilled enough to find jobs.

There may be another vote in 20 years time. Remainers can spend the next 20 years saying "you brexit voters are all so thick and stupid and ignorant and racist". Or you can spend that time addressing some of the huge social inequalities in the UK today which may well have contributed to the different ways people voted.

Whether you voted brexit or remain, we r all united in wanting better jobs, communities and living conditions for us and our families. We all want improved access to education. We all want better healthcare. Let's focus on what unites us. Not on insulting and putting down each other.