I voted for Brexit ‘I voted for Brexit and was told it wouldn’t affect expats – now I can’t live in my £13,000 Italian house’

[OhNoOhNo]

Struggling to work up any sympathy…

https://inews.co.uk/news/world/brexit-voted-wouldnt-affect-expats-cant-live-italian-house-2508493?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=paulchown%2Fmagazine%2FBrexit+Reality+

@bellac11 let me rephrase that, there was division around the issue of immigration.

It wasn’t. Until Farage et al started stirring the pot very few people gave a flying fuck about it.

The country was not divided. Cameron and Johnson divided it and that was evident in the vote.

The country was divided as the outcome of the vote shows

No it wasn’t, at least not originally. It was weaponised by the largely foreign owned RW media using a lot of lies, false promises and more importantly a load of dirty money and tactics from very dubious sources, ultimately with the goal of destabilising and weakening this country to profit a small, very rich minority.

Which it achieved.

I don't understand why the Labour who after all represent the working class, didn't have any opinion on the matter, it's like they didn't care either way, pathetic.

It did expose the racism that plagues this country.

Im not sure I agree, there was the perpetual moaning from some quarters, there always is. Its the same in any country, the UK is not alone in being racists/xenophoic, its not worse and its not better than most other countries, humans being what they are

What sholdnt happen is that these traits be pandered to. Cameron ran the referendum to shut his own party up, nothing more, nothing less.

Huge piece of self harm to this country. It will take many decades possibly longer to recover politically, financially and socially.

A bit like the harrowing of the North in the 1100s

Now most political parties are knowledgeable enough to implement rules and regulations around referendums, such as the level of majority needed, the votes needed in all the states and most importantly around campaigns having to tell the truth.

Tory PM Cameron however was so arrogant (given that he knew the country wasn't divided before) and incompetent that he didn't bother his arse. Lazy.

This allowed Tory PM Johnson to front a campaign built on lies and manipulate the people and his party by appealing to their most base nature and hoodwinking the stupid.

Brexit was brought to you by the Tory party.

Brexit negotiations were fucked up by the Tory party who spent more time playing their game of thrones instead of putting together an agreement that could limit the damage they inflicted.

I am delighted Leave and Tory voters are suffering. You voted for this mess, you won, get over it. And stop blaming everyone else.

Let's not forget that millions of Labour voters, voted for Brexit...

You reckoned Labour supported Brexit an hour ago. You don’t understand much really.

• Conservative voters constituted just over three out of every ten remainers, and four in ten leavers. Labour voters made up four in every ten remainers, and two in ten leavers.

https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/03/a-reminder-of-how-britain-voted-in-the-eu-referendum-and-why/#:~:text=The%20older%20the%20voters%2C%20the,those%20aged%2065%20or%20over.

Don't be ridiculous. The responsibility lies with Cameron initially then the lying Leave campaign.

Oh dear.

I remember how I felt at around 03:00 on the 24th June, 2016. The UK had just voted to remove my right to stay with my family and work in Sweden. This was the start of years of stress.

The typical Brexiter comment to this was that all I needed to do was to fill out a form. There weren't any relevant forms until 2020 and, prior to this, it was unclear who would be protected and who wouldn't be. Eventually I was able to become a Swedish citizen and escape the uncertainty.

No sympathy for this chap. It was laid out clearly in the campaign that removing Free Movement for EU/EEA citizens to move to the UK means Brits losing their own Free Movement.

My MIL has lost a few supposedly good friends over Brexit. From what I've seen the upper working class/lower middle class, white pensioner generally voted against Brexit because they are racist. Not intentionally I don't think but it's clearly culturally ingrained in that generation. MILs friends seem to have forgotten she is an immigrant and somehow forgot she isn't white. Several of her 'friends' gloated about immigrants not being allowed in anymore directly to her. One even said "oh but you're different. We know you" when she pointed out she is in fact an immigrant.

I have absolutely no sympathy for Brexit voters that now can't emigrate to another country because they are too thick to realise that an ex-pat is actually an immigrant. Surely no one truly believed that we could restrict who we wanted from the EU but they would welcome us all with open arms without visas or restrictions?

I cannot vote conservative (obviously) but I can’t vote for labour either because of their totally pathetic behaviour over this issue from the beginning. They just needed to grow one and explain, over and over again, to anyone who would listen, that it was a crap idea, as it self-evidently was. No excuses. Unforgivable. And even after the vote, all we got was ‘the people have voted’ blah blah. Where were they when we needed intelligent grown up politicians explaining why the idea made no sense and would only cause harm? It is not good enough to use an issue ‘politically’ from the sidelines and watch the Tories fall over, or to be cowardly because you are afraid you might lose the votes of idiots.

Fortunately other parties are available @Figmentofmyimagination.

There is a lot of responsibility to go round.

First, Cameron for calling the referendum then both sides lied their heads off, be it about the 350M per week for the NHS or the day-after recession.

However, the referendum was merely the first goal of the match. There were ample opportunities to equalize and go on to win the game. We had two general elections and a period when the government lost control of the HoC before finally leaving. However, the pro-Brexit leaders of both of the main parties ensured that those opportunities could never be realised.

Brexit couldn't have happened without the constellation of Farage, Cameron, Corbyn and Johnson + others.

Just leave this here.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jul/30/uk-post-brexit-policing-pact-at-risk-braverman-migration-laws-lords

Only the liars and idiots called the truth Project Fear.

@Blossomtoes and then many of those former labour voting leavers turned Tory.
Inexplicably considering the shit show that the tories have left parts of the north in.

@Luckydip1 ex labour voters who turned Tory and Johnson admirers in 2019.

My only crumb of comfort is that now - thanks to De Pfeffle Johnson and Truss and kamikwasi - Tory voters are also feeling the pain.

Historically, tory voters have always been insulated against the consequences of their vote...it only affected the poor and vulnerable.

No longer.

Enjoy!

Hopefully not!

Why is David Cameron permitted to live in peace in this country? He is a traitor, every other country would’ve chased him out by now. I despise him for what he unleashed. Poverty and irrelevance for the UK. And I can’t get a break from Farages troublemaking Russian money backed face because of Cameron.