to think the penny hasn't dropped yet, for many people, that the trade in new petrol and diesel cars is really ending in 6 years

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I think the price of second hand cars will go through the roof, at first, when new cars are no longer available, and people buying new homes now really do need to be factoring in where they are going to charge an electric car, and all sorts of preparations and plans are simply not being made

YANBU - we need to be planning and preparing, as individuals and society.
YABU- we don't need to think about it.

Not gonna happen. Very few people can afford £30K plus for a new electric car, and the infrastructure is just not there. I have seen many news reports and documentaries this past couple of years, one just tonight - about how there are way WAY too few electric charging points for electric vehicles.

They take too long to charge too. 6-10 hours some of them. Even if it's reduced to half an hour, we cannot realistically have a society where every car takes half an hour to 're-fuel.'

Everyone having electric vehicles by 2030 is not going to happen.

This will force companies selling electric vehicles to make them cheaper and encourage more competition

nothing like a deadline to encourage innovation from car companies

@PurpleButterflyWings - they aren't saying that everyone will have an electric by 2030. but if in 2030 you want to buy a new car, the only ones on offer at the dealers will be electric.

there are now electric cars made for £6K in China and prices in the UK and elsewhere will be coming down rapidly. and the number of chargers etc will go up.

So, yes, it is possible.

I thought the Prime Minisiter said something about this date slipping too.

No, not everybody will have an electric car by 2030. That is not the plan,

The plan is to stop selling new petrol and diesel cars by 2030.

Lots of people will be using old petrol and diesel cars for decades after that, and lots of people, who can't afford an old petrol car, or a new electric car, will have to plan their lives around not having a car at all

That is what I mean by planning

If you are used to having a car, but won't have one in the future, then now is the time for long term plans, isn't it - schools, homes, jobs, etc all need to be reachable without a car.

Lots of people plan their lives relying on cars, and may need to be making long term plans now on managing without

I think it is a great thing that the number of cars on the road will be reduced.

I wonder if car clubs will take off more. I'm really hoping that public transport will be properly invested in, but TBH that's not likely to happen.

It's not going to happen. Not by 2030. We couldn't produce the batteries needed for all new vehicles to be electric by then.

I can't see it happening by 2030

Depends where you live doesn’t it? If you live in a city where public transport links are good and services are easily accessible then that’s fine and dandy but for those of us living in more rural areas living without a car means we cannot get to work.

Until they address the issue of charging points for the many millions of people who live in flats I can't see how they are going to see through a universal roll out of EVs

What's the point of the thread then? Your opening post and thread title suggests and implies we will all have to have electric cars, as soon as the clock strikes midnight on New Years Eve 2029 - into 2030.

Pure scaremongering.

Also, I will call it now. They won't stop making petrol and diesel cars in 2029/2030. There is far too little call for electric and far too MUCH call for petrol and diesel ones.

They won't be the case the infrastructure isn't there the deadline will just keep getting pushed back.

My car is 14 years old now and its got tons of life in it yet, however I do plan to buy a nearly new car nearer the deadline (which I dont believe will be in 6 years time) and keep it for a good 15 years or so.

We wont be able to afford an eletric car.

This is exactly what I mean by people need to be making plans now. It is 6 years away, and a lot of people's lives will need adjusting, and they need to be planning now.

I came from a rural area, but moved to a town so I could get to work without needing a car.

Do you , nice that you spared a thought for the disabled and the elderly or those isolated in remote areas.

Yes, I suspect car clubs will be part of the answer, for many people

I’m all for less reliance on cars and more electric vehicles etc etc but I think it entirely unlikely the 2030 date for ceasing manufacture of ICE cars will hold.

Where I live you're lucky if the one bus per hour (9-5) shows up.

It's all very well saying people need to plan but if there are no options you can't. Government needs to provide options or they'll face the collapse of the economy as people currently doing essential low pay jobs won't be able to get into expensive cities where they can't afford housing.

Either salary inflation will have to be huge, housing costs crash, or public transport become affordable and reliable. None of these currently seem very likely.

@CrocodilesCry · Today 21:33

It's not going to happen. Not by 2030. We couldn't produce the batteries needed for all new vehicles to be electric by then.

@watersprites · Today 21:33

I can't see it happening by 2030...

100% this. No WAY are petrol and diesel cars suddenly not going to be made anymore. Not with such shitty infrastructure for electric vehicles, so few people desiring them, and hardly ANYone being able to afford them. Possibly 2040, but even that is a stretch. Ridiculous to suggest it should be 2030. I don't know whose bright idea THAT was.

I don't think there is any option for it not to happen, really

This is exactly what I mean by people need to be making plans now. It is 6 years away, and a lot of people's lives will need adjusting, and they need to be planning now.

So everyone needs to move to a town? Where's the houses coming from?

This. ^ So many narrow minded thoughtless comments on this type of thread.

Not everyone can move to a town or city. That’s wildly unrealistic, obviously.

The government aren’t doing anything to improve the infrastructure that will allow less people to have cars. Therefore the deadline will shift.

They haven't thought about people who live in flats