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People becoming increasingly rude and self entitled

254 replies

SusanandMidge · 25/07/2023 10:07

A friend was told to fuck off by a delightful woman at the weekend when she asked a bunch of adults (late 20s, early 30s) to turn off the loud music they were blaring from the pavement and singing along at top volume to at 11pm.

On Saturday I had a woman with a young child in the car refuse to reverse when she was driving the wrong way in a car park and our cars met. She insisted I reverse and even opened her window and said a sarcastic 'now was that so hard' when she passed me.

My neighbour was berated by an affronted father, one night last week, for asking a child aged about 12 who was creating an absolute racket outside her house at about 10.30pm and refusing several requests to move, where she lived so she could speak to her parents. Apparently she really upset the child who arrived home in tears!

Is it my imagination or are people becoming increasingly self entitled and highly indignant when asked to show a bit of consideration or manners to others?

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Fightyouforthatpie · 25/07/2023 10:09

Sadly I think you are right - this is the legacy of the great individualist project - Thatcher's children, grandchilden and great grandchildren, as she said herself, there is no such thing as society.

Taylorswiftly23 · 25/07/2023 10:13

YANBU. Observing how the general public treat retail, hospitality and healthcare staff is utterly depressing. I don’t bother booking theatre tickets anymore because of some of the obnoxious behaviours I’ve encountered recently. People are vile.

freetheunicorn1 · 25/07/2023 10:16

No people are awful!

SusanandMidge · 25/07/2023 10:16

Fightyouforthatpie · 25/07/2023 10:09

Sadly I think you are right - this is the legacy of the great individualist project - Thatcher's children, grandchilden and great grandchildren, as she said herself, there is no such thing as society.

Yes, a lot of people seem to live in a self contained bubble nowadays with no awareness of how their behaviour impacts on other people. As far as they're concerned anyone spoiling their 'fun' or asking them to show a bit of consideration is trampling all over their 'rights.'

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Xrays · 25/07/2023 10:17

Yep. It’s got horrifically worse since the lockdowns. People have become angry, and forgotten how to socialise. It’s really tiresome.

Wenfy · 25/07/2023 10:21

Karma will eventually bite them in the bum. Ie the Mum going the wrong way in car parks will eventually meet someone she can’t bully / cause an accident / get a ticket. The berating father will eventually meet someone tougher and crazier than him if his policy is to go round houses to shout at strange women. And these crazies tend to get their comeuppance quicker than the rest of us

Taylorswiftly23 · 25/07/2023 10:23

Wenfy · 25/07/2023 10:21

Karma will eventually bite them in the bum. Ie the Mum going the wrong way in car parks will eventually meet someone she can’t bully / cause an accident / get a ticket. The berating father will eventually meet someone tougher and crazier than him if his policy is to go round houses to shout at strange women. And these crazies tend to get their comeuppance quicker than the rest of us

Sounds idyllic.

SoSoSoSo · 25/07/2023 10:24

There have always been rude and inconsiderate people. I don't think it's anything new and I haven't noticed an increase of them personally.

Zepherine · 25/07/2023 10:26

I agree. My bugbear is people putting their phones on loudspeaker on public transport or public places. I don’t want to hear your music, tv programme, tiktok, never mind the two way conversation that I heard on the bus yesterday for 30 minutes. Get some bloody headphones!

Funkyslippers · 25/07/2023 10:29

I haven't noticed any increase in this. Some people have always been self entitled twats. But others are lovely

Username620 · 25/07/2023 10:31

Huge increase in this everywhere. I was in the queue to get into the cinema last night and there were some women in front of me. We’d been waiting 15 minutes and some friends of theirs turned up and got in the queue in front of us with their friends. That was bad enough but one of them actually pushed me out of the way.

MeMyCatsAndMyBooks · 25/07/2023 10:31

YANBU. People are awful, I've even noticed it with my in laws since lockdown.

squashyhat · 25/07/2023 10:32

I don't get the point of the (very regular) threads which are started on this. Whether you agree with the OP or not, the only behaviour you can change is yours. What's the point of fuelling the outrage? Just chalk it up to experience and try not to be a dick yourself.

Taylorswiftly23 · 25/07/2023 10:33

Zepherine · 25/07/2023 10:26

I agree. My bugbear is people putting their phones on loudspeaker on public transport or public places. I don’t want to hear your music, tv programme, tiktok, never mind the two way conversation that I heard on the bus yesterday for 30 minutes. Get some bloody headphones!

This and kids being propped up in restaurants with phones on loudspeaker. So bloody inconsiderate.

Taylorswiftly23 · 25/07/2023 10:35

squashyhat · 25/07/2023 10:32

I don't get the point of the (very regular) threads which are started on this. Whether you agree with the OP or not, the only behaviour you can change is yours. What's the point of fuelling the outrage? Just chalk it up to experience and try not to be a dick yourself.

I live in hope that some of the people who recognise these behaviours as theirs, will have a lightbulb moment 😉

Hintofreality · 25/07/2023 10:35

I’ve noticed this as well, their appalling self entitled behaviour is usually attributed to “mental ‘elf cos of lockdown in it”.

Sigmama · 25/07/2023 10:35

I think it's perception, there have always been rude that's and always lovely people as well

Xrays · 25/07/2023 10:38

Zepherine · 25/07/2023 10:26

I agree. My bugbear is people putting their phones on loudspeaker on public transport or public places. I don’t want to hear your music, tv programme, tiktok, never mind the two way conversation that I heard on the bus yesterday for 30 minutes. Get some bloody headphones!

I can’t stand this too. Awful.

Brefugee · 25/07/2023 10:40

squashyhat · 25/07/2023 10:32

I don't get the point of the (very regular) threads which are started on this. Whether you agree with the OP or not, the only behaviour you can change is yours. What's the point of fuelling the outrage? Just chalk it up to experience and try not to be a dick yourself.

you're completely missing the point.

But it starts with "AIBU some woman asked me to move my toddler from the bottom of the slide in case the other kids knocked him over, and because of this the older kids couldn't use the slide " the drip feed? she was asked 3 times then the toddler was either a) gently ushered out of the way by the woman or b) was knocked over by a kid who decided that they didn't want to wait any more.

ad infinitum.

SusanandMidge · 25/07/2023 10:42

Sigmama · 25/07/2023 10:35

I think it's perception, there have always been rude that's and always lovely people as well

But it seems to have become more widespread. Years ago you might have to put up with the occasional loud disruptive party going on until all hours. Now it's almost every weekend.
Years ago people generally spoke at reasonable volumes in public spaces eg restaurants, on public transport. Nowadays people always seem to be shouting and screaming with no regard for the people around them.

Teachers used to be supported by the parents of the children in their care. Now they are berated, insulted and undermined on a regular basis by rude parents raising badly behaved kids.

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Blossomtoes · 25/07/2023 10:44

Completely agree. It’s not perception, it’s people behaving as if they own the world - in shops, on the road, on public transport. If you read MN for half an hour you actually see people boasting about behaving like an arsehole.

Sigmama · 25/07/2023 10:47

Blossomtoes, there have always been people like that

Sigmama · 25/07/2023 10:48

Susanandmidge, I've never berated a teacher in my life

Mutinyonthecrunchie · 25/07/2023 10:53

Scum behaviour from adults is breeding more scum behaviour in their kids.
I dislike a lot of human society, the rest I merely tolerate because I have to.

RashOfBees · 25/07/2023 10:56

It can be true that rude behaviour is more frequent and widespread at the same time as acknowledging there have always been rude people. I have certainly observed behaviour get worse in places like cinemas over my lifetime.

More people value doing what they want over considering other people. You see it on here about noise all the time. Many posters appear genuinely outraged that someone might think they should limit what they do in their house or garden in any way out of consideration.

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