People becoming increasingly rude and self entitled

[SusanandMidge]

A friend was told to fuck off by a delightful woman at the weekend when she asked a bunch of adults (late 20s, early 30s) to turn off the loud music they were blaring from the pavement and singing along at top volume to at 11pm.

On Saturday I had a woman with a young child in the car refuse to reverse when she was driving the wrong way in a car park and our cars met. She insisted I reverse and even opened her window and said a sarcastic 'now was that so hard' when she passed me.

My neighbour was berated by an affronted father, one night last week, for asking a child aged about 12 who was creating an absolute racket outside her house at about 10.30pm and refusing several requests to move, where she lived so she could speak to her parents. Apparently she really upset the child who arrived home in tears!

Is it my imagination or are people becoming increasingly self entitled and highly indignant when asked to show a bit of consideration or manners to others?

I wish they would but I don't think this happens as often as we'd like!

But yes, I agree that since lockdown, people have become arseholes!

Yes I don't know when it became acceptable to do that, but its so rude!!!

I agree that people are ruder and more entitled than they used to be. Not really sure why, but I agree that lockdown has made it worse.

We live on an era of instant gratification and this is part of it. None wants to wait. No one wants to hear no. No one wants to move aside. I think covid exacerbated it. Not only could you demand people get out of your space but you were, literally in some cases, fighting for resources. Add to all of that generations getting older. If the talk of ‘ Karens’ exist now I’ll be fascinated to know how the youth of today will act in 30, 40 years time when they don’t get their way. It’s going to become the Wild West.

Or could it be the result of 13 years of Labour where single women were encouraged to have kids so that they could get a council house and benefits. Now their kids are having kids and this is the result.

People are living in their own bubble and unaware of the impact of their actions and behaviour on other people.

I was at the counter paying for lunch at Pret recently, with customers on either side of me. The one on my right decided to ask his mate something - his mate was on the other side of me. Instead of waiting until they had each paid and could get together again, he yelled his question over to his mate. I mean really yelled. Like screaming right in my right ear. I said "Why don't you yell in my other ear while you're at it and make me completely deaf?". His face showed he had no idea what I was talking about.

This is parenting I think. Whenever my kids did something thoughtless I'd ask what would happen if everyone did it.

Many parents don't do that now - if you want to do it, go ahead.

As a teacher I sometimes ask that question when a child does something daft - they look at me like I'm mad. Usually they say 'but they're not are they' before trying to continue.

Read any thread on here about a child being told off at school - more than 50% of replies are people saying well done to the child or advocating a complaint to school.

Well, this is the society and community we are now building. Children who can't bear the word 'no' are becoming adults who can't bear the word 'no.'

Nonsense. There was no such encouragement. The very first act of the Blair government in 1997 was to cut single parents’ benefits. Encouraging women with children back to work was an ongoing theme of those 13 years.

I completely agree.

Then they post their experience and how they acted on social media and get loads of praise from other self entitled assholes

This thread is not about you or one individual

It is not nonsense. My step daughter's friends turned 18 in 2005 and several of them made the decision to have kids as that was the only way they could get council housing.

Until the Tories came in in 2010, there was no limit to the amount of housing benefit you could get. So a family could decide to rent a house for £5,000 a month and they would get housing benefit to cover it.

That's just about the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

I was a benefits mum, a teenage mum, I grew up in poverty so everything was set against me, I was one of those people others looked down on.
My kids are nothing like that. My daughters off to uni, I am now working my heart and soul, low paid care assistant to afford her to go to uni so she never becomes like me. I see other people who were like me whose kids are just mini versions of their parents and I'm thinking why they not breaking the mould and wanting the best for their kids? If the kids become better than what their parents were then it balances out, instead they become bigger horrible versions of their parents and it is the parents fault, they should want better for their offspring.
So today we have obnoxious behaviour that even shocks me and I was one of those in a gang hanging around shops, never cursed or swore at my elders though or thought the world owed us something either

Agree with this.

Went to cinema last night for the first time in years. So many people just letting their children chat throughout. It was really distracting and kind of ruined the experience for others, but God forbid people be asked to consider anyone outside their own party.

"Until the Tories came in in 2010, there was no limit to the amount of housing benefit you could get. So a family could decide to rent a house for £5,000 a month and they would get housing benefit to cover it."

Thank goodness the tories came and sorted everything out. I am really enjoying the utopia they've created over the past 13 years.

You really are spouting rubbish.

I think the country is fed up, underpaid, overworked, waiting for basic health care for painful conditions, schools are crap, and we are fed things to be constantly anxious about in the media who are so negative.

That said, I don't find people generally any ruder than they ever have been. In fact older people were much ruder to me when I was younger than they would dare to be now.

Yup. Fortunately even a cursory look at the evidence makes it clear how stupid it is.

Definitely some of the threads on here reflect an increasingly insular society. Parents seem genuinely bewildered as to how their behaviour 'in their own garden' could impact negatively on their neighbours, brand anyone who complains about children screaming in cafes as 'child haters', are amazed at any suggestion that they teach their children to offer their seat to others in need (but none of the adults do, so why should my child?) in order that this consideration carries over into their adult life.

A lot of people nowadays seem to teach their children all about their 'rights' but nothing about their obligations to consider other people and view themselves as part of a wider community and society. As a result they grow up to the be the kind of adults who state 'there's no law against it' when asked to desist doing something annoying or anti social, and who see their house and garden as some kind of hermetically sealed place where their behaviour has nothing to do with the people living around them.

Have you been in a library recently? Since when has it been acceptable to make a racket in them? I've seen people playing loud music in there, FFS! When I was a kid you'd get flayed alive for breathing too loudly!

"Went to cinema last night for the first time in years. So many people just letting their children chat throughout. It was really distracting and kind of ruined the experience for others, but God forbid people be asked to consider anyone outside their own party."

Did you ask them to be quieter? I did on Saturday. It was a party of eight girls, about ten years old, at Barbie. They talked throughout, stood on their chairs, walked around. Honestly, it would have been annoying in their own living room. I asked the supervising mum if she could ask them to be a bit quieter and got sworn and shouted at, stares throughout from them all.

The thing I have noticed is that people often don’t wait for me to exit a lift before getting in - this doesn’t happen all the time but it happens a lot. It used to never happen.

Just need to look at the Just Stop Oil mob who go out of their way to inconvenience as many law abiding people as they possibly can... zero consideration for others and very self centred.
I doubt even the most loony of lefties could claim they are Thatcher's children though!

I don't think this is a young people or children issue. Children learn their behaviour from adults. I live in a reitement area and older people jumping queues, walking 3 abreast refusing to make room for others on the pavement and stopping the car in the middle of the road to pop in to the chemists or chat to a friend on the pavement is very common.

I think that people are angry, and it's got worse since Covid - while your elderly relative died alone Boris was partying and is still showing zero regret. While you are cutting down on everything and more the royal family want a 45% pay increase. While you religiously pay your taxes you have to put up with sewage on your beach and listen to the meaningless PR of utilities companies making huge profits. While you try to raise your sons to be decent people the Met police are getting away with rape and racism and they still don't get what the problem is.

I could carry on. The selfishness comes from the top. Our leaders are incompetent, corrupt, thieving liars and adulterers and we keep voting them in. People are taking note that being a selfish, shallow, racist, misogynistic bastard is the way to get on in life. This country seems to think that our current leadership is preferable to any alternative.

So we basically have what we deserve.

I think you are exactly right OP- also there are far too many people excusing children's bad behaviour with various 'labels' - some of course definitely do have mental issues and need support , others (of all income levels) are just the result of poor uncontrolled parenting constantly excusing them with no consequences and they then grow up to be entitled arses too -