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People becoming increasingly rude and self entitled

254 replies

SusanandMidge · 25/07/2023 10:07

A friend was told to fuck off by a delightful woman at the weekend when she asked a bunch of adults (late 20s, early 30s) to turn off the loud music they were blaring from the pavement and singing along at top volume to at 11pm.

On Saturday I had a woman with a young child in the car refuse to reverse when she was driving the wrong way in a car park and our cars met. She insisted I reverse and even opened her window and said a sarcastic 'now was that so hard' when she passed me.

My neighbour was berated by an affronted father, one night last week, for asking a child aged about 12 who was creating an absolute racket outside her house at about 10.30pm and refusing several requests to move, where she lived so she could speak to her parents. Apparently she really upset the child who arrived home in tears!

Is it my imagination or are people becoming increasingly self entitled and highly indignant when asked to show a bit of consideration or manners to others?

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SerenityNowInsanityLater · 25/07/2023 12:44

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madeinmanc · 25/07/2023 12:45

When mobile phones first became widespread there was a comedy sketch where a man used to shout "HELLO!" into a giant phone, the joke was that that was considered outlandish, attention-seeking behaviour. The sketch wouldn't work now because that's how the majority of people behave.

fitzwilliamdarcy · 25/07/2023 12:47

The thread about worst things your kids have said to you is absolutely shocking. I had abusive extremely strict parents so I'm an outlier but even amongst my friendship group, the worst it got was the cliched "I hate you".

5 year olds calling their mums the c word and posters laughing over the various stories on there?! Jesus Christ.

kraftyKitten · 25/07/2023 12:51

Taylorswiftly23 · 25/07/2023 10:13

YANBU. Observing how the general public treat retail, hospitality and healthcare staff is utterly depressing. I don’t bother booking theatre tickets anymore because of some of the obnoxious behaviours I’ve encountered recently. People are vile.

When I worked in retail If peoples were abusive to me I removed myself from the situation. Or I suggested that someone else served them . There are notices up in shops warning customers not to abuse staff .

Anxioys · 25/07/2023 12:51

Seriously if your kids are swearing at you that is your parenting. They can make that mistake once. After it happens again it's on the parents

Justanotherlurker · 25/07/2023 12:53

DS returned from abroad and text me from Heathrow arrivals saying, “Ugh. I just remembered why I hate Brits.”

Imaging posting about your son openly being xenophobic....

Anyone who has spent time abroad and not just 2 weeks on a nice relaxing holiday will know the Brits are not special in anyway with regards to some people being rude, try spending some time in China or Middle east, or even hotpsots in Europe, I would certainly pick up if my child came out with 'Ugh, I just remembered why I hate X countrymen'

And I am second gen immigrant into the UK, but this fasination on MN to be apparently so worldly yet pretend that it is only the British is why MN is becoming a cesspit.

PrimitivePerson · 25/07/2023 12:56

stbrandonsboat · 25/07/2023 12:23

This is the price we pay for getting rid of religion. Once upon a time everyone had it drilled into them, sometimes several times a week, on how to behave and how to treat others. Combine this will the belief that you were being observed and monitored all the time and you'd be punished severely if you didn't watch yourself. Apart from a few psychopaths and criminals, most people took on board at least some of what was being said.

Even Richard Dawkins has said that religion plays a role in moderating people's behaviour. Enjoy everyone else's atheism for everyone now believes they're god and the centre of their own grotty universe.

As someone who has been abused and profoundly damaged by hardcore Christians, I don't even know where to begin with how wrong and offensive this is.

Icandothis1970 · 25/07/2023 12:58

fitzwilliamdarcy · 25/07/2023 12:47

The thread about worst things your kids have said to you is absolutely shocking. I had abusive extremely strict parents so I'm an outlier but even amongst my friendship group, the worst it got was the cliched "I hate you".

5 year olds calling their mums the c word and posters laughing over the various stories on there?! Jesus Christ.

yeah, I had to stop reading that thread. And people wonder why society is broken! 😆

Ep1cfail · 25/07/2023 13:00

I think people are all aware of their rights but have no awareness of their responsibilities.

Even when someone is blatantly wrong the want to argue.

My neighbours upset that I reported them to the council for noise. They play the piano, guitar and drums at stupid o'clock. I knocked at 2.30am last time they were playing ghe drums. They think their right to enjoy their home outweighs mine to actually sleep. Everyone's an arsehole.

Alargeoneplease89 · 25/07/2023 13:07

Hintofreality · 25/07/2023 10:35

I’ve noticed this as well, their appalling self entitled behaviour is usually attributed to “mental ‘elf cos of lockdown in it”.

That made me laugh 😂

stbrandonsboat · 25/07/2023 13:08

electriclight · 25/07/2023 12:28

Rubbish. I'm an atheist, as are most of my family and friends, and we don't behave with entitlement. We know how to behave without fearing god or weekly reminders. If the terrible parking outside our community church is anything to go on, religion doesn't necessarily stop you behaving like a knob.

You don't represent the entire population though do you? There are people, and groups of people, who have a poor level of control over their behaviour and need an external force to bring them into line.

stbrandonsboat · 25/07/2023 13:10

PrimitivePerson · 25/07/2023 12:56

As someone who has been abused and profoundly damaged by hardcore Christians, I don't even know where to begin with how wrong and offensive this is.

Not all religious people are hardcore or abusive. Again, individual experiences don't represent the whole picture.

PrimitivePerson · 25/07/2023 13:11

stbrandonsboat · 25/07/2023 13:10

Not all religious people are hardcore or abusive. Again, individual experiences don't represent the whole picture.

Thanks for trivialising my suffering in the interests of moralistic point scoring.

TortolaParadise · 25/07/2023 13:12

Mayhem3 · 25/07/2023 11:28

YANBU

You only have to read stories from emergency services and NHS staff to see how they’re treated by some people.

I notice it a lot on MN where many people are out for themselves.

The lockdowns was when I noticed it the most because there were posters saying how they’ve bought all of the toilet roll etc and then going to the shop just to buy one chocolate bar because they fancied it, with no regard to anyone else.

Then there were the petrol shortages were posters were saying how they’re filling up multiple Jerry cans because they’ve got a petrol lawn mower and need it to cut the grass, whilst others were struggling to get to work.

It’s funny someone said about school staff.
I got some second hand school supplies off an elderly man a few weeks ago and I explained it’s for my school.
He asked me why I was buying it with my own money and I explained and he said why not get the parents to chip in as that’s what he did when he worked in a school and I laughed at first thinking he was joking.

I wouldn’t expect parents to chip in anyway but the reality is that most of the parents want nothing to do with the school. And when they do it’s for negative reasons.
We have one parent to threatened to rip my head off and called me every name under the sun because I wouldn’t use my own money to buy her son a specific type of pen - I actually did buy this pen which cost £10 and he broke it in half and stamped on it and I refused to buy him another one. I said if he won’t use our pens then he’ll need to bring his own from now on which is why I got a load of abuse off mum.
And we have a parent who threatened to stab one of our staff and track her down on social media to find out where she lives - all because her son had the norovirus and had V&D and needed to go home but she didn’t want to pick him up as it’s our job to look after him during the day.

Just to add to your comment (not derailing) if you are unfortunate enough to be a teaching DSL who has reported or investigated a cause for concern then the hostility and threats are x 1000 for the whole academic year.

PrimitivePerson · 25/07/2023 13:12

stbrandonsboat · 25/07/2023 13:08

You don't represent the entire population though do you? There are people, and groups of people, who have a poor level of control over their behaviour and need an external force to bring them into line.

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why I'm not a Christian any more.

Blossomtoes · 25/07/2023 13:13

There’s just no integrity.

Totally. And that’s from the top down. Our politicians are a disgrace.

Catspyjamas17 · 25/07/2023 13:13

Parents seem genuinely bewildered as to how their behaviour 'in their own garden' could impact negatively on their neighbours,

At least parents know where their children are. In the 1970s parents regularly chucked kids out of the house for the day and were unaware of how their behaviour impacted the entire town or countryside for several miles around.

Oh, but of course children were all perfectly behaved and wonderful then, that's why dozens of public information films had to be made to provide the basic parenting information so many were incapable of delivering.

stbrandonsboat · 25/07/2023 13:15

PrimitivePerson · 25/07/2023 13:11

Thanks for trivialising my suffering in the interests of moralistic point scoring.

Okay, so I need to take your unfortunate experience as representative of everyone else's? I'm sorry, but this isn't realistic or helpful in explaining why the population's behaviour is so bad now.

Anxioys · 25/07/2023 13:16

Blossomtoes · 25/07/2023 13:13

There’s just no integrity.

Totally. And that’s from the top down. Our politicians are a disgrace.

Somebody voted for them. Who? Don't tell me, people who will claim to have all sorts of standards and then knowingly elect lying spivs and financially incontinent prime ministers. Those people who vote Conservative.

PrimitivePerson · 25/07/2023 13:17

stbrandonsboat · 25/07/2023 13:15

Okay, so I need to take your unfortunate experience as representative of everyone else's? I'm sorry, but this isn't realistic or helpful in explaining why the population's behaviour is so bad now.

Right, I'm outta here. I've got better things to do.

OngoingConfidence · 25/07/2023 13:17

It seems like a lot of peoples favorite phrase right now is "I don't owe you anything"

TenderDandelions · 25/07/2023 13:25

Puzzledandpissedoff · 25/07/2023 12:25

Interesting you should say that, TenderDandelions; I've been on many cruises, but never an almost exclusively British one before recently sailing from Southampton on P&O

Let's just say the difference was stark ...

Lol - are you me?!

I'll definitely try it again outside of the school holidays to see if it makes a difference, but if it doesn't we'll be back to the American lines like Celebrity and RCI.

strongcupofTea · 25/07/2023 13:26

SusanandMidge · 25/07/2023 10:07

A friend was told to fuck off by a delightful woman at the weekend when she asked a bunch of adults (late 20s, early 30s) to turn off the loud music they were blaring from the pavement and singing along at top volume to at 11pm.

On Saturday I had a woman with a young child in the car refuse to reverse when she was driving the wrong way in a car park and our cars met. She insisted I reverse and even opened her window and said a sarcastic 'now was that so hard' when she passed me.

My neighbour was berated by an affronted father, one night last week, for asking a child aged about 12 who was creating an absolute racket outside her house at about 10.30pm and refusing several requests to move, where she lived so she could speak to her parents. Apparently she really upset the child who arrived home in tears!

Is it my imagination or are people becoming increasingly self entitled and highly indignant when asked to show a bit of consideration or manners to others?

Yep everyones up their own arse these days. I blame social media and all the self love empowerment BS.
In the past we were taught as children to love one another and look out for one another. Even the Disney movies we watched were about a women falling in love and making friends. Now it's all about self empowerment and bashing others.
People get cancelled because they're not quite PC about lgbtq issues etc but forget that they regularly help an old lady do her shopping or are a good husband or wife.
Society is screwed up!

NowItsLikeSnowAtTheBeach · 25/07/2023 13:26

You're not wrong, OP. And it's gotten a helluva lot worse since the covid lockdowns. Something has broken in people's heads re civility and sharing the world with other people.

Catspyjamas17 · 25/07/2023 13:29

I'd expect a P&O cruise to be full of entitled and rude 60+ year old Middle England Daily Mail readers to be honest. Not the sort of people to say, "No, after you."