Am I being unreasonable to thinks MN has become full of blokes lately?

[hopelessmum1]

I have been absent for a while and I am suddenly seeing lots of blokes usernames. Could yous not go and create a Dadsnet or summat so women can talk freely and openly without being monitored by men? @mumsnet

I would much prefer it if men weren’t here. Just as many men sometimes enjoy some men-only spaces. It’s not my website though, so there’s nothing I can do about it. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I don't like it that men come here, but as MN says they're allowed, there's nothing I can do about it.

I like men's input on here, it counteracts the often hysterical, irrational and downright bitchy comments more often made by some of the women on here.

My man left his mug out on the side...
Leave him immediately. If you don't then you are stupid.
My man is not great in bed....
Leave him and get another one better

Men are treated as if they are stupid and incompetent. They aren't allowed an opinion and if they do they're accused of mansplaining or shouted down for actually having an opinion and daring to share it on here even if an opinion is being sought by the OP from both sexes.

I've turned on my voting option for the first time and voted on this one!

And before you start on me, I've got a bloody useless shit of an incompetent husband. Maybe that's why I think the men on here are good sorts!?

Unfortunately there's assholes all over the internet. I'm a member of pistonheads and jesus there are some throbbers on there.

There's currently a Barbie thread and the amount of crying is ridiculous. But like here, there are some genuinely decent folks so is worth skimming through the BS.

My man left his mug out on the side...
Leave him immediately. If you don't then you are stupid.
My man is not great in bed....
Leave him and get another one better

Speaking of ‘hysterical’ and ‘irrational’….

@TooBigForMyBoots Nobody wants you to silently accept perverts etc. Always report if you have concerns . MN always thank posters for drawing attention to concerning posts. It is unrealistic to start a campaign to get rid of Dads from a parenting website.
Perhaps start your own female only website. MN is taken and offers a welcome to all who keep to the talk guidelines.

But we don't particularly want smug, bitchy mean-girls here either.

Hmm, that might a good rename for MN some days🤔

i can't tell who is man most of the time. Unless they declare it in their OP, followed by some tale of marrying some poor woman out of pity. They are the posts that I think "oh do fuck off"

One of the best long term unknown trolls ever back in the dark ages on here was a man. Pissed off everyone with their witty posts. No one knew. Everyone thought it was a cranky woman, they would fit right back in. How do you know? Man spreading? Scratching balls?

That are. It's coordinated by the MRAs to try being MN down from the inside. That was made clear ages ago if I remember right

One bloke even did a YouTube video about trolling MN. Showed the threads, the PMs he got about his bollocks thread.

This thread is not full of generalisations of men as a sex🙄. It's a thread about the condescending, patronising, misogynistic and creepy men who have joined Mumsnet.

But to be fair, loads of posters have been using 'men' as a shorthand for , and synonymous with, condescending, patronising, misogynistic and creepy men.

If you don't want any men at all to have access to a huge discussion forum, because they are male, and you would like it to be for women only (even though the owners have repeatedly said that men are welcome) - then that's a perfectly valid opinion to have; but this thread (and all of the others we have regularly on the same subject) have been full of "Men always...", "Men do this..." - in a way which tars every male poster as the same as the repugnant ones.

Saying "I don't want men on here because they are [all] creepy, patronising, misogynistic, sex-obsessed" is just dishonest and actually very reminiscent of the way that the misogynists view and talk to women, only with different negative sweeping assumptions.

Nobody would dream for a second of claiming that all Nigerians are online scammers or that all Muslims are terrorists, just because a small number clearly are and should obviously bear the full consequences of their chosen behaviours. Is that really the low bar that people on MN want to set for themselves on what is otherwise an (overall) extremely wise, canny, thinking and intelligent site?

@MathsTeacherandLoveit

I like men's input on here, it counteracts the often hysterical, irrational and downright bitchy comments more often made by some of the women on here.

My man left his mug out on the side...
Leave him immediately. If you don't then you are stupid.
My man is not great in bed....
Leave him and get another one better.

Men are treated as if they are stupid and incompetent. They aren't allowed an opinion and if they do they're accused of mansplaining or shouted down for actually having an opinion and daring to share it on here even if an opinion is being sought by the OP from both sexes.

You forgot to put 'MAN HERE' at the beginning of your post..........

Also, I have NEVER seen a woman post on here, and say 'input from da menz required please!' So PMSL at THAT comment. 😆

For my part, I don’t want men on here not for any negative, generalised reason about men.

I don’t want men on here - because I’d simply prefer it to be a women-only space.

Again, as this has to be constantly reiterated - I know that’s never going to happen.

I don't need to start my own website, just as I don't need to open my own park. And I don't need to accept obvious pervs and woman haters in either because inclusivity.🙄

However you have reminded me of my responsibility to report.😊

Is it meant to be a parenting forum? Or a mum forum? Or a space for any and all women? Do people actually want diversity? Or are they here to talk to parents or mums or women? The problem with forums with a lot of men, is that they all turn reddit like. Full of misogynistic shite.

I do not want diversity here. I have no issue with respectful men, but I am here for the woman space. I might not be the majority though.

Women provide more than enough amazing diversity for me!

Well your radar is totally wrong as I'm a woman.
I have seen a thread that has asked for opinions from both sexes. This is why I mentioned it.

I can't speak for anyone but myself, and I hope that I've never claimed to. But the reason I stay on MN (I joined at my DW's suggestion!) is that there are generally far fewer condescending, patronising, misogynistic and creepy men here than on any of the other discussion forums I've looked it. It's really sad if that's changing; I only really contribute to a few small corners of the site so perhaps I'm spared the full horrors.

Yes. They can do that from reading though. They do not need to start injecting mancrap in.

I would very much miss the various support threads I'm on for DC's various ages and activities. Those are spaces which genuinely doesn't seem to exist elsewhere. I'd like to think that I've helped support people through my contributions there, and by providing information when there's an open question on other threads, but I'm not really the judge of that.

I've certainly learned a huge amount about human psychology and the wide variety of people's lives from reading here, so perhaps I should indeed stick to doing that and go back to lurking?

If you're the sort of man who won't irritate women by being on here, then we won't even know you're a man unless you decide to tell us.
Its really not necessary to declare your sex before offering your opinion, because on an anonymous forum, who you are personally doesn't actually matter. Your words on here are the beginning and end of who you are, to me at least.
If you're the sort of man who is here because you've an agenda to push, then personally I'd prefer you weren't. I get tired of seeing the same tedious ploys used to try to discredit women, and the same interjections about double standards/misandry/if it were a man asking repeated over and over. Its a lot of chaff to wade through to get back to the wheat of the thread.

Remember@5128gap 'we' as you put it is everyone. That is, anyone and everyone who choose to post on MN. You cannot police how or what posters contribute unless it breaks talk guidelines. If it does report to the moderators. They will remove it.

Or just crack on with reading, learning and sharing information and insights about things you have knowledge about and opinions on, and don't announce you're a man? We can't see you, and if you don't display any of the objectionable male behaviour, we're never going to know your sex, are we?
I posted on another site for years that was a mix of both sexes. The default assumption was that i was a man. Never corrected anyone, as it was irrelevant.

Very woe is me.

Why do we even need to know you’re a man?

It is actually possible just to join in, be part of a conversation and have us absolutely none the wiser that you’re a man.

Obviously you need us to know you’re a man via your username. But you don’t have to have a username that alerts us to your sex the minute you post.

@5128gap and @CrazyArmadilloLady I do that! I have a couple of other usernames which I use when my personal details aren't relevant, and don't correct anyone about assumptions. (But my style is a giveaway anyway.)

I shall try to be more consistent about doing that; I used to use this name for everything. Now, I use it mainly on the sorts of support threads where posters end up chatting rather than merely exchanging information and opinions, and seems dishonest not to be "me" (when talking about DW or the DC etc).

I'll have a think about it, though. Might be better to share less, in general, anyway.