Am I being unreasonable to thinks MN has become full of blokes lately?

[hopelessmum1]

I have been absent for a while and I am suddenly seeing lots of blokes usernames. Could yous not go and create a Dadsnet or summat so women can talk freely and openly without being monitored by men? @mumsnet

I don't care if they post here if they're genuine. Some are, I'm sure. However, most of it is political I think. There's a GE coming up. The major parties know they have pissed off women, particularly middle aged women that have been through the realities of female biology, with their TWAW bullshit, a large part of the demographics here and a large part of their electorate that they are panicking about. Hence there's all kinds of lobbyists, interns, paid propagandists etc on here trying to influence that chunk of the electorate they're concerned about. A large proportion of them will be younger males who really stand out like a sore thumb. Another chunk will be the middle aged transwomen trying to persuade us all that they really are the same as us and we should welcome them into our spaces, because thats their entire identity and MO.

The founders have made it quite clear time and time again. Do you know better than them? It has never been a site for just women. There have been men posting right from the start.

it also says "for parents by parents" so are you banning the child free too?

Won't convince me otherwise

Well, that's your problem. If you can't deal with the fact that men can post here and that it has never been for women only maybe you should set up your own "women only" forum. Good luck with that.

I can guarantee that there are posters here that are men that you have no idea about and also posters you think are men who are actually women. If you believe otherwise then the internet might not be for you,

Why do you feel so strongly that I should want men here?
It would be my preference for mumsnet to be female only, and yes, I am aware that it's only my opinion, I'm not trying to ban anyone and I would leave if it bothered me that much.
And actually I think most of us can spot a man from a mile off.

All posters should start with 100 MN points. Every post made can be liked or disliked by other users, counting towards the users overall score. High scorers get privileges (voting power, rights to make more threads e.t.c) . Low scorers get...less opportunity to derail MN.

As a female dominated platform, the MRAs, trolls and the misogynists will eventually be background noise. The Student Room had a similar system when I was on it 15 years ago.

It hasn't been implied that all men are misogynists. Nor has it been explicitly stated, as you claimed it has. The post you're referring to does neither.

I never once said you wanted men here so I have no idea what you're talking about.

you can only spot the "obvious" men. I bet there are many that have flown under the radar because they just post like normal people and vice versa for female posters you think are male.

I've ended up here because I was looking for understanding of my situation and everywhere else I went was heavily biased in a manly man's view point, something I've never been fond of...not being a manly man myself. I've never really shared the same views as most men and as a result generally see more eye to eye with women as I can relate more.

What I found by reading others posts was I've experienced what a lot women have with their partners or husbands behavior, which helped me get an understanding of what I've been through.

I'm not trying to intrude here or put womens views or experiences down and wade in as a man that knows best, I don't at all. I guess some things can be lost over text too sometimes and there are those who will be like that regardless but I'm not intentionally doing so should it come across in that way.

I'll post and try to help others with what I know now from my experience to help them, like others posts have helped me. I only say I'm a man because I feel like I should in order to be transparent...rather than assuming I'm a woman and maybe the fact I'm saying it's not right as a man myself may also be helpful too in some way, I don't know.

Anyway, just wanted to say, for me anyway, some of you have indirectly helped me in my darkest time and I really appreciate that and hope I can return the favour by doing the same.

And all because nobody can be bothered to set up Dadsnet. If course that would defeat the purpose because who could be bothered to go snooping on there to start an argument or be told what to think about EVERYTHING.

I don't mind men on Mumsnet, but I do very much dislike deliberate divisive argument for the sole purpose of point scoring and turning it into an 'about me' conversation. Particularly where the OP with an emotional or sensitive issue (there are several live threads like this right now).

If I see a man on here, I always think it is for the wrong reasons. Maybe they want an insight into how we think, or behave, so they can wriggle around it in their own lives. I just don’t see why you would join “Mumsnet” unless you are a single dad, on your own with your DC.

I know there’s nothing I can do about it, so as usual, we women have to suck it up. Even when we discuss issues affecting our safety and rights, it usually gets deleted as some minority man is going to get upset.

I come on here to speak to other women, support I don’t have in real life.

https://www.thedadsnet.com/ @Acornsoup

Cool 😎 I don't need it though as won't be using it

Thanks for the link, @MinnieMountain. Here's the section I'd probably be interested in. It's not as lively as MN!

Does it have a comprehensive CFs or Eurovision section? Or is half of it just threads asking "Why are there women on Dadsnet?"

She said, ‘why do you feel so strongly that she should want men here?’

And it’s a valid question. Why do you?

You seem very annoyed that some women would prefer (note: my repeated use of the word ‘prefer’ throughout this thread) MN to be women-only……..

But there's defo a tendency on here for people to accuse a poster of being a man seemingly just because they disagree with them. The feminism board is especially terrible for it.

I've seen it happen to quite a few posters who've been here for years and are almost certainly female.

In fairness the feminism board can be a magnet for the sort of men who want to sabotage MN so I can understand the heightened suspicion on there. Particularly when you get 'women' coming on to threads about male violence to spout stats (lies) to try to demonstrate women are just as bad as men. I mean, the chance of a real woman thinking that is vanishingly small.

What a weird OP.
So you can tell which posters are male because of the characteristics of how they post?: I can't.
There's certainly a lot of annoying posters on mn. But I wouldn't want them knocked off because of that. I don't pay much attention to them, that's all.

None of us know for certain, but men and women tend to be obnoxious in different ways and it's surprising how many times a clear MRA post has an explicitly feminine username, which most of us on here don't have. Even in normal discussions, there's often a different tone to a poster and it reads male to me. I could go into why but it'll only annoy people.

I've pissed off lots of people on here. Someone recently said they were going to get me banned. I've been called a cunt, a twat, a moron, vile and, worst of all, lower class, but nobody has ever accused me of being a man. It's not something people reach for just because you disagree with them.

I'm a bloke - read here a fair bit because I find it interesting to read the female view on matters - this is of course not uniform but more the range / trend

I post occasionally - tends to be on threads where people are seeking advice on matters of which I have some knowledge or the more general what's the best / worst type ones.

There are thread types that I definitely stay away from - things like women who've suffered emotional / physical abuse, PMT, menopause, pregnancy - just think it's inappropriate for me to comment on things like that

Hi all

We are just popping in to say we answer nearly every report.

If you'd like further clarification, you're always welcome to ask for that too and we will do our best to get back to you.

We are post-moderated, so we really won't see posts that break talk guidelines unless reported to us!

Tbf, a lot of stats do seem to suggest that we're almost as bad as men.

I was lurking on a thread about it a good while back and was sceptical initially. However, I went down the rabbit hole and the studies posted seemed legit. E.g. government studies covering tens of thousands of couples across loads of countries.

A lot of posters seemed to be ignoring the more recent studies and trying to dismiss the data because some of it was ten years old. It felt like many had already made their minds up and weren't open to considering the data.

Men tend to do a lot more damage due to their strength but there were a lot of studies that found the incidence rates to be very close. And around 70% of non reciprocal violence was female perpetrated in several.

People on here tend to just go by crime stats but we already know that men under report due to not wanting to be seen as weak, and also the separate issue of there not being many resources to help men so less organisations to report figures.

A more recent study found that if you ask women if they've ever assaulted a male partner a much higher number than predicted say yes. But if you ask men the figure is much lower. They suggested that men felt embarrassed to admit it.

For example,

The 2006 thirty-two nation International Dating Violence Study "revealed an overwhelming body of evidence that bidirectional violence is the predominant pattern of perpetration; and this ... indicates that the etiology of ipv is mostly parallel for men and women". The survey found for "any physical violence", a rate of 31.2%, of which 68.6% was bidirectional, 9.9% was perpetrated by men only, and 21.4% by women only. For severe assault, a rate of 10.8% was found, of which 54.8% was bidirectional, 15.7% perpetrated by men only, and 29.4% by women only.[57]

Oh wow. So I got deleted because I pointed out that a certain pp had a distinctly masculine style of posting?

If you named names, then yes, probably.