Am I being unreasonable to thinks MN has become full of blokes lately?

[hopelessmum1]

I have been absent for a while and I am suddenly seeing lots of blokes usernames. Could yous not go and create a Dadsnet or summat so women can talk freely and openly without being monitored by men? @mumsnet

People quote each other all the time. The pp had already admitted to being a man several times. I didn't even say why I thought it was a masculine style only that he had it (as do several others on this site).

Wait, what? The comment pointing out that I have a "subtle" masculine style? I thought that was entirely fair and can't see anything objectionable; I probably do. Certainly wasn't me that reported it! 😮

Ok, I don't know what the post said. Maybe take it up with MNHQ.

Yep and you can spot them on the relationships board easy peasy. They are the ones encouraging exhausted, abused women to stay in their shitty, abusive relationships.

You can’t control who uses the internet unfortunately

Yep and you can spot them on the relationships board easy peasy. They are the ones encouraging exhausted, abused women to stay in their shitty, abusive relationships.
That's unfair, the poor man might be tired from working, be exhausted from his highly stressful job, doesn't see mess, can't win because if he did chores then the martyr woman in his life would only tell him off for not loading the dishwasher correctly, and anyway he probably has ADHD. Men who are perfectly capable of high flying careers are really masking when they're brilliant in the workplace and appear incompetent at home. It's not a coincidence that they wash their own mug at work and run their own diary at work, but at home don't lift a finger. It's because they're neurodiverse and they don't need ablist women being critical. They probably already feel rubbish about doing nothing around the house, opting out of childcare, and taking a lot of time on new hobbies.

(Sarcasm by the way! There really was a thread that went on for dozens of pages with posters weirdly invested in a lazy husband having ADHD rather than being a garden variety lazy bugger).

Yes and I've found one.It's a hobby forum for young/old/ male and female which seems very lively with extra sections devoted to other subjects.A bit similar to Mumsnet in that if you ask a question you'll get answers/comments in minutes not months😁.Obviously if Mumsnet stated it was women only when I first googled a specific question when I was evenings with the kids,wife out working I would not contribute and respect the fact it was a great forum for women to support each other. Men like me hopefully would not invade that space and read only.
I got chatting to a really nice lady today ,it's always better irl than the net.
I will dip in on the games forum occasionally.

I've never really noticed male vs female posting styles tbh. I feel like the personality variations between individuals would hugely outweigh this. Usually on here posters downplay male vs female stereotypes.

We tend to downplay performances and roles, such as the idea that cleaning is women's work and men are too useless to figure out how washing machines work.

In terms of socialisation and class level attributes, though, I don't think men and women are indistinguishable.

We never know for sure, of course. But I really don't think the extremely angry poster with an overtly girly name who thought taking the sex topic out of trending was an act of anti-man oppression was an RL woman. I don't think "EmmylouGirly" (not the poster's real name) who thought it was misandristic to expect a man to pay a nominal amount for his own child was a woman either.

Fair points. Those examples do sound a bit dodgy. On the other end of the spectrum I dont automatically assume anyone who isn't keen on feminism is a bloke as often seems to be the case on here. I guess it's partly down to your perception of feminism.

I've seen plenty of anti feminist posts that I'm very sure come from women (all the ones that blame OW for affairs while totally forgetting the MM, for a start. That's really depressing stuff.). I really don't think accusations of being a man, even if they are wrong, are generally made just because someone disagrees or isn't pro woman. Like I said, being a bloke is pretty much the only thing I've not been accused of on here.

But I do think that there are some general, class level distinctions in how men and women express themselves.

I've no issue with men on MN, no idea how we'd stop them coming even if we wanted to. And nobody is obliged to post their sex. But yes, it does piss me off that there are clearly some men trying to pass as women in order to lend weight to their paranoid, misogyny. Although I suppose it's a comfort to know that they view MN as such a threat.

Indeed.

I wasn't talking about views that go against women's interests so much as views that are actively against feminism as a movement. The disconnect seems to be between one group saying "why wouldn't you want equality for women?" and the other believing that feminism has become a toxic movement.

I feel like the truth is somewhere in between as obv feminism isn't really a unified movement and contains many permutations.

the other believing that feminism has become a toxic movement.

I don't pay that much mind, tbh. There has never, ever been a time when some group of people wasn't complaining that feminism had gone too far.

I'm still interested in why the majority of young women don't identify as feminists. I not convinced it's due to handmaiden or 'pick me' attitudes as the vast majority still vote in favour of equality. Over here last study I read (by Fawcett Society) found only 7% of UK women identify as feminists. In Sweden it's only 40% nowadays. Something has seemingly shifted.

Personally, I've never really been interested in the theory side of feminism but I'm hardly a 'handmaiden'. I work in a rough male environment (construction and aggregates) and give as well as I get. But I've more male friends than female so don't really gel with a lot of feminists on here. I just don't seem to have a very similar outlook.

I still have quite a few female mates though and my best mates are mainly women, but generally I prefer hobbies that tend to appeal to men. I'd rather go green laning or paintballing than do a spa day any day of the week tbh.

I agree about PigletJohn. Other men are just doing what men do. Invading women's spaces. Same shit that's going on everywhere. Just go and start your own forum men and leave us alone.

I still have quite a few female mates though and my best mates are mainly women, but generally I prefer hobbies that tend to appeal to men. I'd rather go green laning or paintballing than do a spa day any day of the week tbh.

I’m not sure what point you’re making with this?

You think feminists spend their time at spa days?

The number of women who genuinely enjoy spa days is a teeny-tiny sub-set of all women on the planet.

All of us have a range of hobbies and things we enjoy doing. And most of those things - just like you - will be a mix of stereotypical male and female activities.

Very, very few women only enjoy pink, glitter, kittens, pillow fights and spa days.

The point of feminism is to break down the barriers, so that you can do exactly what you want to do. Equality of opportunity, equality of choice.

And it’s hardly surprising that many young women don’t identify with, or see a need for, feminism.

They think the battle is won.

But let's be honest. If you want to go offroading on a regular basis chances are you won't be doing it with many other women.

I’m still not understanding the point you’re making?

Gotta be honest. This post and the quoted one put me right off. They just sound misanthropic tbh. People forget that there are far more men cutting people out of burning cars, fighting terrorism, performing life saving operations etc than there are killing women, which is seemingly a common focus on here.

It's not a women's space. The logo is 'by parents, for parents'. A father has more justification for being here than any childless women, although everybody is of course welcome according to mumsnet.

People who attempt to gatekeep domains run by others piss me off tbh.

I’ll sometimes say “bloke here” where it’s relevant. It’s never meant to convey superiority, or state that I should be listened to. Sometimes it’s just relevant.

And I’m certain that over the 12 years I’ve been here I’ve learnt more than I’ve contributed. There’s a real insight hearing from women about how it really feels in this world, and I hope I’ve absorbed enough of that to know what I can do better.

“I still have quite a few female mates though and my best mates are mainly women, but generally I prefer hobbies that tend to appeal to men. I'd rather go green laning or paintballing than do a spa day any day of the week tbh.”

How weirdly irrelevant.

With respect, I've no idea what point you're trying to make here. You're not like other girls?

At least when men post here you don't the cringey posts like you do on Black Mumsnet from White women " please forgive me for being white, I'll go away if your offended but can I say something?"