Am I being unreasonable to thinks MN has become full of blokes lately?

[hopelessmum1]

I have been absent for a while and I am suddenly seeing lots of blokes usernames. Could yous not go and create a Dadsnet or summat so women can talk freely and openly without being monitored by men? @mumsnet

I'm sorry I don't understand your point?
Would you prefer me to have said "We, the women and men who use MN, won't know if you're a man?" I could have, but thought just using 'we' was snappier..?
As for reporting posts, I prefer debate to censorship so it would need to be very extreme before I'd be asking for posts to be removed. Plus the last time I looked, boring me with guff about double standards when I'm trying to enjoy a thread isnt actually a breech of any guidelines. So of course they can keep on. I'd just prefer they didn't.

I'd just prefer they didn't.

Exactly ^^

This is what it boils down to for me. I’d prefer men just self-excluded. I do know that’s not going to happen.

I’m simply saying what I’d prefer. Expressing an opinion.

I don’t want, nor expect, MN to individually frog-march every male person off the site.

Again - my position isn’t one of negativity towards men, per se.

It’s that I, personally, would prefer it to be just women.

Your use of misogynistic language tells us all we need to know about your views on this.

I've been here since 2009 and there have always been condescending, creepy, pervy, MRA, misogynistic men here. Perhaps you haven't noticed them because they tend to target women.

Well, its unreasonable to come onto a shared space for parents and moan about it not being single sex tbh. I mean, imagine if all the blokes started moaning about the women on here!

Ah OK,so I'm not allowed to call out women making frankly pretty horrible comments because calling a woman bitchy is misogynistic.
How's about just fucking rude then.
This place has far more fucking rude and horrible women than men.

I'm not sure it really matters that there are more women than men on here and that it was likely initially aimed more at women.

Unless of course we want to position women as 'the default carer' which seems to be the exact opposite of what most feminists on here seem to be trying to achieve.

It’s a wonder you spend tIme on here then.

I’m not saying you should or shouldn’t.

But it always bemuses me that people so derogatory towards women spend time in a predominantly female space, when there are so many mixed alternatives. Clearly there is something good that draws you here, so we can’t be all bad.

And the ‘LTB because he left his plate out’ is pure and utter hyperbole, as well you know.

I would fully expect them to moan about our presence on a site called Dadsnet. 🤷🏻‍♀️

You're right. Maybe some boards have more problems than others? I'm mainly active in "education" (which has a very different set of issues).

I used to come here for advice when my marriage was breaking down. My ExH hacked my laptop and joined MN to stalk me then reverse posted about our situation to get sympathy for himself. It was weird and creepy and just reinforced my view that I was better off without him. I hope he is too busy getting on with life to bother any more. But there will always be creeps and stalkers and perverts.We just have to keep reporting them. The nice people are welcome!

And yet on the few threads I've read on Dadsnet women start piling in as soon as a bloke starts complaining about his gf or partner etc.

I've always found this place to have a bit of a double standard tbh. What really drove it home for me was the recent thread where the ex had booked a holiday without telling former husband and just expected him to have daughter for extra days without checking his work commitments etc first.

No way would people have been excusing this behaviour if the roles were reversed!

And yet on the few threads I've read on Dadsnet women start piling in as soon as a bloke starts complaining about his gf or partner etc.

Right. And I’m sure they found that equally annoying as we would, if the sexes were reversed?

I think an important distinction to note is that mumsnet is 'by parents, for parents' but Dadsnet is more specifically aimed at dads.

I was referring mainly to your use of the misogynistic slur 'hysterical'. But your overall tone is misogynistic, too.

You seem to have a very dim view of women, which is especially sad as you say you are one.

It's a bit like the difference between men and women's toilets nowadays. 😂😂😂

I have a dim view of anyone who over reacts to someone else's problem and gets the wrong end of the stick, doesn't read a thread properly and picks on little insignificant things to explode into a massive problem. Definition of hysterical - wildly uncontrolled emotion. This is often seen on here.

i am often hysterical, I also do irrational very well too, although the summer holidays should reduce my outbreaks considerably I hope.

Why do we even need to know you’re a man?

It is actually possible just to join in, be part of a conversation and have us absolutely none the wiser that you’re a man.

But...but... previous posters have been complaining about male posters 'pretending they're women', @CrazyArmadilloLady ! And a man posting on mumsnet without saying he's a man is apparently exposed very quickly by the psychic members of the board, so presumably accused of pretending to be female.

So yes, men can't win on this board

Men are treated as if they are stupid and incompetent. They aren't allowed an opinion and if they do they're accused of mansplaining or shouted down for actually having an opinion and daring to share it on here even if an opinion is being sought by the OP

Yep. Some people on this thread have even dictated that men should only be allowed to read MN, and that they're not entitled to post. Maybe MN can produce a read only version of the site, and use the psychic posters to weed out the members who should only be allowed that version.

But...but... previous posters have been complaining about male posters 'pretending they're women'

Wow, so do some people consider it 'pretending to be X' if they assume somebody is X, even though that person has never said or indicated one way or the other and have just naturally joined in with a non-sex-specific discussion like everybody else?

That's phenomenally... egocentric, to say the least. Many would go as far as to invoke the favourite MN descriptor that starts with an N.

Yep. Some people on this thread have even dictated that men should only be allowed to read MN, and that they're not entitled to post.

Some may not see a comparison, but that instantly makes me think of the bad old days of history, where women were maybe humoured if they liked to read about politics and such, and ask their husbands questions about the topics of the day if they really must; but they were obviously not fit to be allowed to actually cast a vote for themselves.

‘Dictating’… LOL

People are saying what they’d prefer.

Not one person is ‘dictating’, because not one person is deluded enough to believe they get to ‘dictate’ to MN a how this place is run!

Way to inadvertently prove my point…

’Women: budge up for the men!’

‘Men: you get your own speshul place.’

The people who continually display ‘wildly uncontrolled emotion’ - if not on here, then certainly in society at large - are men.

It’s called ‘anger’. And it’s much more dangerous that any ‘wildly uncontrolled emotion’ that women display.

And men, when they display this dangerous, harmful emotion, are never, ever referred to as ‘hysterical’.

Men (as a group) are far more emotional (certainly ‘uncontrolled’) than women (as a group) could ever dream of being. But we’re the ones that get the label.

I'm not convinced people can tell that a random poster is a man, but do think that there's a lot of men with MRA/manosphere outlooks that are easy to spot.