to think female newsreaders and presenters shouldn't wear make up

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|I am absolutely sick of seeing men on TV with normal, natural looking faces, and the women sitting next to them with their faces smeared with gunk. Why can't women show normal, natural looking faces on TV too? What a horrendous disgusting message we are passing on to young girls. "You need to waste time and money smearing gunk on your face to be allowed to be seen in public"

Gunk. Sighs. Some of us like wearing that gunk

🙄Go out for a walk or do some volunteering if you are bored!

I forgot to put my gunk on before work and am sure no one else cares but I do !

The men wear make up too
What difference does it make to the news if the presenter wears make up?
The lighting is really bright, that's a factor

Andy on Cbeebies wears more foundation than anyone I've ever seen, and I used to work in a drag club.

Forgot to add If this is all you have to get worked up about then you're extremely lucky

The thing I'd like to see is no more wearing of heels, for someone largely sitting on a chair to present. I would support a law that no woman (or man) can be required to wear heels at work, except for theatrical performances.

Interesting. Women were more repressed and more judged for their choices 100 years ago so wearing make up must surely overall be a sign of liberation, like wearing trousers was, and like men choosing to wear make-up is.

Anyway I disagree with the OP. I like the natural look but the opinion is a bit Gilead for me. And bad lighting is evil.

A law banning heels? That is also quite Gilead!

Lol

A law banning the requirement to wear them. That isn't the same thing.

It's also of course completely unenforceable and a pipe dream. It's the same as the cosmetics situation in the workplace. There might well not be a policy of requiring female broadcasters to wear heavy cosmetics, but this doesn't mean it's not a de facto requirement on pain of the usual thing happening to women when they hit middle-age: superfluity and the curtailing of their careers.

Most women in these circumstances would probably choose to continue wearing the cosmetics. It's a no-brainer; the fact that this is equally superfluous to their standing as serious professional journalists is aside from the point. In our society, store is still set by women on the basis of appearance.

The point which is, I think, being well-made by numerous posters upthread is that it shouldn't have to be this way.

Yep. Women (or anyone else for that matter) should be entirely free to choose whatever appearance of themselves they wish to present to the world.

I hardly think that newsreaders' make-up is going to influence young girls. They're not exactly a core audience for news & current affairs programmes are they?

Haven't read the full thread so this may have already been mentioned but I thought it was to do with HD TVs being so clear. Bradley Walsh has a lot of foundation on when I watch The Chase.

@toochesterdraws "Women (or anyone else for that matter) should be entirely free to choose whatever appearance of themselves they wish to present to the world."

Yes. Out of interest, do you think they are?

How many men think they need to put on make up to go shopping, to avoid 'terrifying children' or 'looking tired and pasty?

Almost none. But if course, women who wear makeup are doing it entirely by choice with no outside pressure or socialisation involved.

Was at a recent tv broadcast being hosted by Dermot O'Leary and I was STUNNED by how much make up he wears. I get that bright camera lights make you look paler, but it looked like he'd slapped it on with a trowel, and it was much darker than the rest of his skin. Women aren't the only ones wearing make up!! What we see as 'normal' men is just as false as the women.

You will be prising my foundation out of my cold dead hands

And mine. And my red lipstick.

None but why would I want to be like a man?

This ^^

I don’t care about the men I do it for me. I am voluntarily single with zero interest in getting a man. If I want to wear make up because I look tired and pasty without it I bloody well will!

You do it for you

you seem to miss the point

The point is that women are doing something that perhaps they wouldn't actually want to if it wasn't so socially expected

And that social expectation- that women should and want to look good , so are valued for being pretty - is bad for women

It perpetuates the myth that women exist to be arm candy and the real work is done by men who aren't distracted by friviality

Also been on sets, the men are slathered in make up! Everyone on tv is. If you saw them in the street you’d double take at the make up… not quite as full in as ‘theatre’ make up but not far off. Though luckily those spray foundations they use now are much lighter.

I for one am wondering why you are so exercised about it.

easily sorted, just try 4 major surgeries and 16 rounds of chemotherapy. You will have plenty of time to post at the times you are well enough to sit up, but not well enough to get out of bed, as long as you have feeling in your hands at those times, and I suggest you think before making wildly judgemental and ignorant sarky comments about other people's lives