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orangeleavesinautumn · 2023-07-19T08:03:46+00:00

|I am absolutely sick of seeing men on TV with normal, natural looking faces, and the women sitting next to them with their faces smeared with gunk. Why can't women show normal, natural looking faces on TV too? What a horrendous disgusting message we are passing on to young girls. "You need to waste time and money smearing gunk on your face to be allowed to be seen in public"

mathanxiety · 19/07/2023 19:51

BarbaraofSeville · 19/07/2023 17:54

How many men think they need to put on make up to go shopping, to avoid 'terrifying children' or 'looking tired and pasty?

Almost none. But if course, women who wear makeup are doing it entirely by choice with no outside pressure or socialisation involved.

How many men shave their faces every day, or wear a tie, or worry about baldness?

The male cosmetics market is growing year upon year.

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orangeleavesinautumn · 19/07/2023 19:52

mathanxiety · 19/07/2023 19:46

I for one am wondering why you are so exercised about it.

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because I am a teacher, and see the devastating impact this has on young girls.

Society and the media are constantly hammering the message home.

You are ugly, you are not fit to be seen in public, spend your money and time covering your face in muck so we don't have to look at your natural features. And do this every time you are out in public. Or you won't get a career or a partner.

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mathanxiety · 19/07/2023 19:57

round about the 1980s, it was mostly bright primary colours for both sexes

I was a child in the 1960s and 70s and remember the colour palette and unisex hairstyles of that era.

It had a downside. What it reinforced was that the masculine was the default, the norm. It did not encourage boys to venture outside of their comfort zones.

SoShallINever · 19/07/2023 19:59

I've never worn make up. I'm lazy and just can't be bothered!
My DD wears a lot of it and it covered up her teenage acne enough to give her the confidence to go to school.
I honestly think there are other things you need to worried about OP. How about the fact that every day, women are raped, abused, paid less and in some countries denied the right to show their faces at all?
Don't throw the "I'm a teacher, so I know" line at us. I know tons of teachers and none of them think the way you do. Thank goodness we live in a free society.

MRSDoos · 19/07/2023 20:00

I love putting make up on and especially doing a full face for a night out. Since having a baby, I haven’t really had the time but I put make up on for me. It makes me feel put together and to be honest, I enjoy wearing it.

Your logic makes no sense because you’re saying it’s damaging… yet you’re also making damaging remarks yourself about other woman who like to wear make up or “gunk” as you call it.

I am wondering if maybe you are a bit jealous of these lovely looking woman?

mathanxiety · 19/07/2023 20:10

@orangeleavesinautumn

I grew up in a place and at a time where girls and women who paid attention to their appearance, wore their hair long, or wore makeup to school, were judged to be at best airheads and at least trollops, in both cases unworthy of anything but scorn.

It's not great tbh to live in a society where you feel you have to choose whether to be 'pretty' or 'intelligent/ ambitious' because there's no overlap. Women and girls can't win whatever they opt for when it comes to appearance.

I'm very happy that my own DCs grew up in a place where they could express their personalities or personal taste in clothing in a school that had no uniform and that allowed hair colouring, nail polish, jewellery, piercings, beards, hair of any length or none at all, and any type of clothing apart from clothing with offensive or provocative slogans/ messages. The DDs didn't have to put up with adults measuring the length of their skirts or telling them to go to the bathroom to clean off their eyeshadow. They're all very happy in their own skins now, as adults, just as they were each day heading out to school.

skippy67 · 19/07/2023 20:13

orangeleavesinautumn · 19/07/2023 19:52

because I am a teacher, and see the devastating impact this has on young girls.

Society and the media are constantly hammering the message home.

You are ugly, you are not fit to be seen in public, spend your money and time covering your face in muck so we don't have to look at your natural features. And do this every time you are out in public. Or you won't get a career or a partner.

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Most schools have strict rules on make up. It's really not that deep. Maybe you could try yoga or something to help you calm the flip down?

midnightblue12 · 19/07/2023 20:16

"easily sorted, just try 4 major surgeries and 16 rounds of chemotherapy. You will have plenty of time to post at the times you are well enough to sit up, but not well enough to get out of bed, as long as you have feeling in your hands at those times, and I suggest you think before making wildly judgemental and ignorant sarky comments about other people's lives"

Can't quote this post for some reason. @orangeleavesinautumn

I'm sorry to hear you've been u well OP but I do think it's very hypocritical you calling someone out for using ignorant sarky comments about other people when you are calling women on TV out for wearing make up, saying they've smeared gunk on there face and it's a horrendous disgusting message.

If you can't take it, best not give it.

Lots of women, including me, enjoy wearing make up. No disgusting message there!

littleripper · 19/07/2023 20:22

orangeleavesinautumn · 19/07/2023 19:52

because I am a teacher, and see the devastating impact this has on young girls.

Society and the media are constantly hammering the message home.

You are ugly, you are not fit to be seen in public, spend your money and time covering your face in muck so we don't have to look at your natural features. And do this every time you are out in public. Or you won't get a career or a partner.

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Teenagers are not influenced by news readers 😂😂

MermaidEyes · 19/07/2023 20:24

I suggest you think before making wildly judgemental and ignorant sarky comments about other people's lives

Ahem pot calling kettle....

KarmaStar · 19/07/2023 20:47

Do you have men,women or the general population?

KarmaStar · 19/07/2023 20:48

Hate

SoupDragon · 19/07/2023 20:58

I suggest you think before making wildly judgemental and ignorant sarky comments about other people's lives

says the person making wildly judgmental and ignorant snarky comments about other people's lives.

Blossomtoes · 19/07/2023 21:01

It perpetuates the myth that women exist to be arm candy and the real work is done by men who aren't distracted by friviality

Does it fuck. If every female doctor, lawyer, finance director and CEO was barefaced you might have a point but they’re not. I have a consultant pathologist friend who’s never seen without her eyeliner and red lipstick, she’s hardly distracted by frivolity when she does post mortems.

BunnyBettChetwynd · 19/07/2023 21:56

Orla Guerin is one of the most compelling and successful news reporters of my lifetime. She's the recipient of an MBE and many awards at the highest level in her field.

I've never, to the best of my knowledge, seen her wear make up.

willWillSmithsmith · 19/07/2023 22:07

orangeleavesinautumn · 19/07/2023 19:49

easily sorted, just try 4 major surgeries and 16 rounds of chemotherapy. You will have plenty of time to post at the times you are well enough to sit up, but not well enough to get out of bed, as long as you have feeling in your hands at those times, and I suggest you think before making wildly judgemental and ignorant sarky comments about other people's lives

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I’ve also had four major surgeries and chemo (in the past) and the last thing I’d be getting hot under the collar about is women newsreaders wearing make-up. You’re a teacher so you must be aware that there are cultures out in the world whose idea of female beauty is worth getting angry about rather than a bit of mascara and lippy that can be washed off at the end of the day.

willWillSmithsmith · 19/07/2023 22:09

I mean bloody hell even Princess Ann wears a bit of make up here and there and I don’t see her as woman doing something she doesn’t want to just to please a man!

Blossomtoes · 19/07/2023 22:13

BunnyBettChetwynd · 19/07/2023 21:56

Orla Guerin is one of the most compelling and successful news reporters of my lifetime. She's the recipient of an MBE and many awards at the highest level in her field.

I've never, to the best of my knowledge, seen her wear make up.

I’ll see Orla Guerin and raise you Kate Adie - who has a CBE.

to think female newsreaders and presenters shouldn't wear make up

Tinkerbyebye · 19/07/2023 22:15

Oh get away men are made up as well on the TV

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orangeleavesinautumn · 19/07/2023 22:18

willWillSmithsmith · 19/07/2023 22:07

I’ve also had four major surgeries and chemo (in the past) and the last thing I’d be getting hot under the collar about is women newsreaders wearing make-up. You’re a teacher so you must be aware that there are cultures out in the world whose idea of female beauty is worth getting angry about rather than a bit of mascara and lippy that can be washed off at the end of the day.

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Oppression on our culture is very real. This make up tyranny is one aspect of it. We need to clean up our own act before criticising anyone else

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Blossomtoes · 19/07/2023 22:20

Make up tyranny! 😂

willWillSmithsmith · 19/07/2023 22:21

orangeleavesinautumn · 19/07/2023 22:18

Oppression on our culture is very real. This make up tyranny is one aspect of it. We need to clean up our own act before criticising anyone else

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I really think you need to chill.

BunnyBettChetwynd · 19/07/2023 22:21

Tinkerbyebye · 19/07/2023 22:15

Oh get away men are made up as well on the TV

....and they 'do' their hair to the nth degree (see OP's link - I'm sure heated rollers were used.)

Mrsjayy · 19/07/2023 22:22

orangeleavesinautumn · 19/07/2023 19:52

because I am a teacher, and see the devastating impact this has on young girls.

Society and the media are constantly hammering the message home.

You are ugly, you are not fit to be seen in public, spend your money and time covering your face in muck so we don't have to look at your natural features. And do this every time you are out in public. Or you won't get a career or a partner.

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And you think newsreaders influence or are role models to young gir? Of course their not you have to know that it goes from tiktok to love Island that is what girls are influenced by your anger Is mis directed

willWillSmithsmith · 19/07/2023 22:22

When I was recovering from my major op I was pressing the morphine button more than I should have and started hallucinating and feeling weird, you’re not doing the same are you OP?