To think Just Stop Oil are showing up serious security breaches?

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Maybe I'm missing something, because I dont understand what JSO are doing apart from turning everyone against their cause apart from looking idiotic with their slow walking.

But watching the coverage of them at Wimbledon, the snooker, the rugby and the Chelsea Flower show, what is to stop them (or anyone else) doing far more damage?

Given they dont mind blocking ambulances whilst people die, it's not out of possibility that they might do something far more serious. Where is tbe security?

Well generally of course you'll find people taking such full on action in a cause like this will be much more mindful about their consumption, but that aside...

No one is perfect, everyone who supports climate action is on some level a hypocrite simply by existing. We need to accept that and not use it as a red herring to avoid the real issue.

Which is that we need systemic change. And we need it fast. We need governments to act. Instead They're taking more money from fossil fuel giants. They're failing us. They're failing our children.

I'm not a JSO member but like the pp, I can totally understand why they do what they do. I know it annoys people but they have tried everything else. I wish I was brave enough to stand up and fight like they do. In the meantime I'll be doing smaller forms of protest and campaigning.

But what will you actually be campaigning for? No imported food unless it comes on sail boats?
Everything uses oil. Where’s your red line?

That woman who wept on the news who was surprised to find she was arrested even though her 5 year old grandson worried about the fishpond and he was now abandoned by her arrest, reduced to foraging for himself entirely unsupervised except for his grandad - must admit, I laughed at her idiocy. Yes the environment is a problem but the hubris is too

A bunch of numpties walking down the road with a banner isn't going to stop the planet burning. So the likelihood is that both things will happen, rather than just one.

Who funds the fossil fuel industry?

Consumers.

Some historians are of the view that the extreme methods of the suffragettes delayed the extension of the franchise. Perhaps people should thank Kaiser Wilhelm for his part in getting British women the vote.

What??is one not allowed a new dress.
As with @babbscrabbs let's blame anyone except the people responsible.

A bit like terrorists do.

A bunch of numpties with a banner 🤣🤣😭😭

@babbscrabbs but what do you want to protest about? Literally nothing including whatever device your on MN now will be made, marketed and delivered without oil. There’s literally no choice.
You want a lovely forum to chat on it’s got to be on a device made from plastic. Which is oil.

Where is your red line. How basic a life will live to save the planet?

Youth of today have such short attention spans, should have lasted longer than an hour! If I'd been there I'd have got them a takeaway to aid their stamina.

Please share the video!

Being talked about, more likely so they can be prevented from being pickles

Can Alcatraz be re opened for protestors that break the law.

Their campaign is working because people are now talking about the issues. There are now multiple threads on the environment where there wouldn’t have been before.

The numpties are the ones threatening violence snd and shouting abuse

But we arent. We are talking ahout the idiots.

@Sigmama we had this earlier upthread. They're not.

As a previous poster said, ‘we need systemic change. And we need it fast. We need governments to act. Instead They're taking more money from fossil fuel giants. They're failing us. They're failing our children.’

Assuming that you aren’t denying the evidence of what’s needed to reduce the worst effects of climate change, what’s your solution?

Writing petitions and to MPs isn’t enough, voting isn’t fast enough.

Extinction Rebellion organised a well attended peaceful action in the spring but the press barely reported on it because it didn’t inconvenience anyone.

What’s the solution?

I dont remember saying I have one, but that doesn't mean I agree with what these clowns are doing. It's not either or.

If this is your fear
Elect politicians who will
a) beef up the armed forces (as in train all citizens)
b) fund a no-charitable immigration policy and a birth control policy.
c) invest in eco tech

To make a difference on an planetary scale, it's going to need scilion valley, various other industries etc to save the earth.

*silicon valley

Just seen Nick Ferrari talking to one of them.
She said shel only stop when the government 'makes a statement '. All this for that 😳😳😳
I did laugh, he said 'do you honestly think Rishi Sunak will think oh no, someones thrown orange paint at the Chelsea flower show, I must act' 😭😭

They are trying to do something and are succeeding at putting climate into peoples’ conversations. The clowns are the politicians in the pay of the oil and gas industry. They are heaping misery onto us all.

You cannot just shut down an entire industries overnight.

I don't know about the oil part, but I wish they would 'just stop'

I think it's pretty disgraceful not to let emergency service vehicles through; I went on a lot of marches and protests before I got too old and decrepit, and never saw an ambulance or fire engine held up. Marchers would always make way and let them through.

Although I recognise that stopping the use of oil completely isn't feasible, I still think that the JSO serve a useful function in raising awareness that we need to use alternatives wherever possible. And even if I didn't, I think the right to protest is a fundamental one in a democracy, and we restrict it at our peril.

I had to chuckle at a clip someone showed me of a woman screaming at a JSO protest that she was going to miss her flight because of them. As if they were going to be sympathetic to someone who was a) flying and b) driving to the airport from central London, when all 3 airports are well served by public transport.