To think Just Stop Oil are showing up serious security breaches?

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Maybe I'm missing something, because I dont understand what JSO are doing apart from turning everyone against their cause apart from looking idiotic with their slow walking.

But watching the coverage of them at Wimbledon, the snooker, the rugby and the Chelsea Flower show, what is to stop them (or anyone else) doing far more damage?

Given they dont mind blocking ambulances whilst people die, it's not out of possibility that they might do something far more serious. Where is tbe security?

There are 34,412 Metropolitan police officers in a city of approx 7milliom residents plus maybe 1 - 2 million extra people visiting/commuting in on any day.
There are very, very few police per capita. If a large enough group of people want to do protest, or riot, or loot some stores, or run naked down the street or egg people (or march into parliament) they can - there is never going to be enough police to overcome a large group of people intent on doing something bar the police mowing them down with guns.

It's impossible to stop people protesting - they aren't carrying weapons or anything that would show up on metal detector/security bag searches.

Unless all sports pitches and roads were enclosed in massive metal security cages, in which case you probably wouldn't feel that keen to go to the event or be able to cross a road.

Just Stop Oil people come from all walks of life - you aren't going to be able to screen them all out of an event.

Proper jail sentences for trespass on the motorways, endangering the public etc, instead of the police namby pambying round them. If they choose to scale Bridges, keep the traffic flowing. "On your own head be it" was one of my late mothers favourite sayings.
Oh and the celebrities who come out in support of them, shove them in a jail.cell as well and let us get on with our lives

It’s the thugs that are punching, kicking and dragging the protestors that are frightening.

Thats true.

Drivers are an angry bunch

They're not thugs, they're ordinary people trying to go about their business, hampered by morons in orange vests.

They're not thugs, they're ordinary people trying to go about their business, hampered by morons in orange vests.

They’re thugs. Ordinary people aren’t violent.

How come these 'ordinary people' don't get as angry sitting for hours in traffic jams caused by road works or accidents or sheer weight of traffic

YANBU, it works to the government's advantage to let them crack on though. The more the general public get annoyed with JSO and their disruption the more likely people are to not be arsed with the message they're spreading.

Ordinary people incensed by morons as I said.

They are not 'THUGS'

Just the frustrated public trying to get through their day

Love a good old mumsnet pearl clutch!

Ordinary people incensed by morons as I said

If you want to justify violence, that’s up to you. They’re thugs that enjoy a fight.

As things get worse more and more people will turn violent

Civil war isn't improbable

War with European refugees as the trigger also is quite possible

I am not sure they are helping but I can understand why - because without big hurtful changes it's going to be carnage

@IfItAintBrokeBreakIt

No they aren't. Would you just sit there like a good girl then? Wringing your hands?

What would YOU do?

I don’t think the protester was the idiot in that incident.

And the talk of violence - our government and establishment is preparing huge physical violence against us

The more warming we have the more we will be physically hurt

What we have is the equivalent of someone building up an army and preparing to attack us and then yelling violence when someone counter attacks first

Forever friends, 'what would you do?' - cycle

If someone slow walking infuriates you, you have anger issues

No they aren't. Would you just sit there like a good girl then? Wringing your hands?

What would YOU do?

I’ve been stuck behind them and was late for an appointment. I just waited. I managed not to assault them. Amazingly.

Ambulances also struggle to get through when thousands of cars each containing exactly one person get in each others way on roads in and out of cities on a daily basis.

If you’re that concerned make the roads exclusively for Ambulances and keep the bloody cars out of the way. Ambulance lane and bus lane and cars are banned. Then everyone will be happy, right ?

Don't forget Silverstone. I hadn't realised the helicopters were all public transport.

I'm quite tempted to start a pressure group called Just Stop Private Aircraft.

Slow walking on a footpath is fine.

Slow walking on a road is not.

It's important to remember that the gov are currently trying to curtail protestors rights and make more illegal, ordinary people disrupted by this aren't going to be pressuring the gov to sort out oil use are they, they're going to be angry that the police aren't doing anything and will probably be more supportive of stricter rules around protesting. Another win for the government. Most are affluent hypocrites anyway makes you wonder if they're on someone's payroll as their actions are feeding nicely into quite a few gov aims.

So true. This thread makes me feel like I'm in the twilight zone.

Surely if you can jump a barrier with a bucket of orange paint you can do the same with a gun?

ynbu op it worries me too

Brambles, people slow walking in a road doesn't make me angry, people making unnecessary car journeys pisses me off more, still - I wouldn't be punching anyone