Is this classed as a ‘high earner’?

[Earnerlesr]

65k.

And if it’s not, what figure starts to be classed as a high earner?

Yes, and the tax band situation is why I don’t agree that higher rate = high earner. That may have been the case, but not now. The fact people insist the rate you pay determines whether you’re a higher earner or not goes back to the point others have made about low expectations and a low wage economy.

I think a higher rate tax payer is a high earner based on the word 'higher' and the fact that, even in London, 73% earn less that that.
But i dont take higher to mean highest, just higher than average.

I've only earnt that much once, my oh earns over that, we live in rented 8 year old car haven't had a holiday since 2019. Doesn't feel like we earn a lot to me, but appreciate what we have and we don't worry about bills or how we will eat, so comfortable I guess.

I have seen this debate so many times, people can separate chosen lifestyles with earnings.

I would consider £150k a high income or £250k combined in London..in the north probably half of that.

There is a gender wage gap so for a white man working in the city of London, I think the average wage is £100k so £150k is nothing special, they would have to earn £300k for it to be impressive. For that reason, my DH is on £75k and he considers himself to have a low wage (as he is a 33 year old white man working in the city).

Mumsnet is hilarious. Considering the majority of the population earns less than £65k, yes that’s a high salary compared to many others.

Low earner in the city. High end of average for the SE. High for the Orkney Islands.

"My husband's on £50,000 a month but we still have to shop at Aldi and I haven't had a new pair of shoes since 2020. We can barely afford childcare let alone a dog walker."

Oh, that old one. "I don't earn a lot so everybody else on Mumsnet must be lying/living in a different world!" 🙄

It’s all relative. One part of a couple warning 65k and the other earning 30k but living outside the SE creates a very nice lifestyle.
65k with a stay at home parent in London then not so much.
It’s obviously higher than average but it’s not really megabucks.

You are saying you can only judge if a salary is high by comparing with the earnings of a tiny minority of the population who work in "high earning" careers? Rather than by comparing with the earnings of the majority of the population???

£65k puts you inside the top 5% of earners in the U.K. Try this tool for a more accurate picture: https://ifs.org.uk/tools_and_resources/where_do_you_fit_in

I would call that a high earner.

But those careers are not seen as high earning , they are middle income

Ergo .... £65,000 is, y'know, high compared to those

I'd say it's anything over around £100K. Usually into the very top tax band (not just the 40%).

And of course how far that income goes depends on where someone lives.

£45K in the NE will do very nicely but get you nothing in the SE.

I'd say so. DH is on just under £30k and that's considered a high salary where I am.

Anyone can say any old shit on here.

Some of the most important jobs (i.e supermarket workers, cleaners etc) kept us going through lockdown.

The median income in the UK is around £30K .

Most graduates now have a starting salary of close to £30K to put it in perspective (this is the new starting salary for a teacher and they aren't exactly highly paid.)

Not in the North where I live you wouldn't. Again, mumsnet thinking skewed towards the South!

Exactly @Tessisme
I'm really struggling with posters lack of thinking skills

I’m also in the North and know of quite a few people on over £100k. You’d be astonished at what some people earn in.

Maybe the problem is the term higher earner suggests a belief that you should be able to afford a certain kind of lifestyle and for most people in the Southeast that lifestyle could not be bought on that salary and if they are single parents they are probably struggling and sure people earn less, sometimes a lot less and quite a few of those are subsidised by the benefits system because it's not a high enough salary to raise kids without help from a partner or the Gov in the Southeast.

People's definitions of high earners tend to vary depending not only on circumstances but also on the point they're trying to make.

That should be ‘in what sound like run of the mill jobs’*

If you have taxable earned income that exceeds both the basic rate limit and your personal allowance (and blind person’s allowance, if eligible), you have to pay more tax on the excess, at the ‘higher rate’ of 40% instead of the basic rate. The point at which you start to pay this is called the ‘higher rate threshold’. In 2023/24, the higher rate threshold is £50,270 (this is calculated by adding the £12,570 personal allowance to the £37,700 basic rate band).

No, I don’t think so. I class myself as a low earner and I actually earn £6,000,000 per week.

It’s okay because I live semi rurally and can make a chicken last a month. ✌️