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Earnerlesr · 2023-07-17T21:34:56+00:00

65k. And if it’s not, what figure starts to be classed as a high earner?

Fizbosshoes · 18/07/2023 07:28

Yellowlegobrick · 18/07/2023 07:08

Another thread on here a few months ago had posters that were incredulous that anyone in London earn less than 30k! Like suddenly because you work in London, cleaners, bar staff, retail staff, teachers etc are suddenly going to earn 80k....

London has a real, and growing issue with filling these types of roles, because they don't pay enough to either live near or travel to work. The availability of social housing often drives people's ability to afford to work in lower paid roles, not to mention many cleaners, bar staff are young people still living with parents.

I live in the south east and the going rate for cleaners is £15-16 an hour. Not in london. Working a 37.5h week at £15 an hour with 4 weeks holiday earns £27k p.a. and these are the lowest paid, least skilled workers.

But the point is that some people literally couldn't believe people did earn such low wages.

Sorry I don't understand your point about cleaners being the lowest paid, are there no nmw jobs where you live? Also if the cleaner is through an agency they won't be earning £15-16/hour or if they are working a full day they would need to account for travelling time where they earn nothing. Eg in an 8 hr day they might do 6hrs cleaning and the rest travelling between jobs

BTW I'm not saying its ok that there are lots of low paying jobs but some posters seem to be dismissing the fact that if the average salary is around 40k then half of people will earn less than this.

Fizbosshoes · 18/07/2023 07:30

plasticwallet · 18/07/2023 07:27

"To be counted in the top 1% of earners, UK-wide taxpayers had to take home in excess of £150,000 and there were only 310,000 of those people across the country as a whole in 2014-15, the period analysed by the Institute of Fiscal Studies (IFS) report."

.....and be a MNer! 🤣

Simonjt · 18/07/2023 07:32

I’d say £65k is a high earner, higher rate tax payer, earning more than half of the average salary.

User1864876 · 18/07/2023 07:33

It is for someone young but not so much if you are at the top of your career

RegainingTheWill2023 · 18/07/2023 07:34

Simonjt · 18/07/2023 07:32

I’d say £65k is a high earner, higher rate tax payer, earning more than half of the average salary.

Do uou mean earning more than double The average wage?

Krustykrabpizza · 18/07/2023 07:34

GodSaveTheClean · 17/07/2023 22:40

Average here. High is six figures minimum.
joint income of £120k here is pretty low end.

Where is this then?

Swrigh1234 · 18/07/2023 07:34

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 18/07/2023 07:20

What the fuck has benefits got to do with the question of whether or not £65k is a high earner or not? Why do some people feel the need to bring this into everything? And why the patronising assumption that I don't understand?

Yes, a lot of people on low wages are subsidised by the benefits system. Yes, it would be better if employers paid a decent living wage to all of their staff. No disagreement there, but until employers step up, what do you want people to do? I would love to see companies cutting the salaries of top management and reducing dividends to shareholders in order to ensure that they can pay a decent wage to people at the bottom of the scale, but that doesn't seem likely to happen at the moment, does it‽

Saying that an average of a crap number is also crap is just meaningless. The facts are what they are. You might not like it, but £65k is within the top 10% of earners in the UĶ. You can argue that average wages should be higher, but that doesn't change the current reality.

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If you don’t understand the point, that’s on you. Rant away.

Simonjt · 18/07/2023 07:35

RegainingTheWill2023 · 18/07/2023 07:34

Do uou mean earning more than double The average wage?

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Haha, yes I did 🤣

Kazzyhoward · 18/07/2023 07:36

Of course it's "high" - it's in the top 8% of earners, i.e. 92% of people earn less!

amprev · 18/07/2023 07:36

blueshoes · 17/07/2023 22:37

It is a higher rate tax payer.

Not a high earner in London but I would say high earner everywhere else in the country.

I can confirm that here in the cold wastes of the North, that this isn’t classed as a high earner either. Coal and gruel is pricey these days.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 18/07/2023 07:37

Swrigh1234 · 18/07/2023 07:34

If you don’t understand the point, that’s on you. Rant away.

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Lol. Not capable of explaining yourself properly? Fair enough.

Prettypaisleyslippers · 18/07/2023 07:38

I think tax code related, so £150+

freetheunicorn1 · 18/07/2023 07:39

According to the tax man it is in the higher rate and 65k is in the top 10% in the country so obviously a higher salary.

Whether or not it is a good salary is different, depends on the industry, role and location.

ForTheSnarkWasABoojumYouSee · 18/07/2023 07:39

fuchiaknickers · 17/07/2023 22:42

Goodness me, yes I would say so!

How many jobs even pay £100,000+ outside of London?! I bet there are no more than about 50 people in my whole county earning that much.

Some people live in a bubble.

You must have bloody long waits for GPs then. Or do you live in Rutland?

Mademetoxic · 18/07/2023 07:40

TreesandFish · 18/07/2023 07:22

Not at all. I earn more than that and I'm still having to budget carefully

It's your lifestyle choice.
People manage way below that just fine.

YourWinter · 18/07/2023 07:41

Wasn’t there a similar question recently?

My DC on £40k would say £100k is high.

My DC on £130k would say £250k is quite high.

wishmyhousetidy · 18/07/2023 07:41

Qbish · 17/07/2023 22:35

No. That is not a high earner.

I would say - £300,000 plus? In the South.

Ridiculous,100,000 plus is a high earner

RegainingTheWill2023 · 18/07/2023 07:41

User1864876 · 18/07/2023 07:33

It is for someone young but not so much if you are at the top of your career

What? Think how many millions of people have careers in education, health or social care etc. etc. and despite decades of experience and advancement will never earn £65k. Even in tge SE or other areas of the country where COL is high.
I don't doubt for a second that it is a paltry sum in some careers but people seem deliberately oblivious to the majority outside their own experience.

plasticwallet · 18/07/2023 07:42

Although stats are based on PAYE & the really rich aren't on that system & often pay less tax!

headcheffer · 18/07/2023 07:43

Qbish · 17/07/2023 22:35

No. That is not a high earner.

I would say - £300,000 plus? In the South.

Come on

User1864876 · 18/07/2023 07:43

It's middle to high, it's less than MPs get and less than a lot of doctors gets

plasticwallet · 18/07/2023 07:43

I know people who earn 2m as a MC partner. I also know there aren't hundreds of thousands of these people!

GeekyThings · 18/07/2023 07:44

Yes, that's a high earner. No, it isn't relative. The only people who would probably say it is are the people earning more, and as much their finances are skewed from the rest of the population, so are their opinions 🤣

User1864876 · 18/07/2023 07:45

RegainingTheWill2023 · 18/07/2023 07:41

What? Think how many millions of people have careers in education, health or social care etc. etc. and despite decades of experience and advancement will never earn £65k. Even in tge SE or other areas of the country where COL is high.
I don't doubt for a second that it is a paltry sum in some careers but people seem deliberately oblivious to the majority outside their own experience.

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But those careers are not seen as high earning , they are middle income

SophiaElise · 18/07/2023 07:45

StayAnonn · 17/07/2023 23:01

It really is all relative. A single person earning £150,000 with a small mortgage and no kids will have a lot more spare cash than a couple on a combined income of £300,000 with a large mortgage and 3 children in private school

This makes zero sense.

Spare cash is not the subject. The three individuals in this example (the single person and the two in a couple) if earninf £150k each are equal in the earning stakes.

Choosing to spend your money on expensive things makes no difference to your actual earnings.

Indeed it makes no sense as a response to the original post. I was responding to a post that was on top of mine (should have quoted!)