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Whose fault was/is this (if anyone's)?

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familieseh · 12/07/2023 22:21

Family member 1 (host) has a huge garden and hosts gatherings often over summer.

A BBQ has been pending for a while, involving host's family, extended family and friends and neighbours. The purpose of the BBQ is to celebrate two family member's birthdays that are close together.

When first discussed about two months ago, it proved hard to find a date where both birthday family members were available. Also host had a dilemma as to whether to have it on a Saturday or Sunday-given a lot of people have busy Saturdays over Summer, but people work on Mondays and may not want long drives/booze etc.

One of the birthday family members is in a LDR and only sees their DP some weekends, DP always leaves on a Sunday morning as they work on the Monday-it is difficult for them to get Mondays off at this time of year. Host is very aware of this, but it wasn't discussed specifically while making arrangements.

Last time the DP visited everyone was trying to figure out what weekend would be best and decided on this weekend. This was around a month ago.

In the meantime birthday family member's friend asked if they could spend some time with them the Saturday of this weekend-birthday family member mentioned the BBQ and said they were welcome to come to it (which they knew they would be) and mentioned to host who said yes that's fine but then later on, they said to birthday family member 'You do know It's on the Sunday, not the Saturday?'

Birthday family member hadn't known this and is now upset as their DP cannot be at their birthday gathering with them. Their DP is upset because they were looking forward to coming.

Host has said birthday family member should not have assumed it'd be on the Saturday. They've also given their (valid) reasons why the Sunday would be better, and said they discussed it at length with other family members. It had not been specifically mentioned at any point to birthday family member however, despite these discussions, which has riled them somewhat.

Birthday member accepts that they assumed and shouldn't have but feels that host should have specifically mentioned about it being on a Sunday, and should also have perhaps been mindful that birthday member's DP cannot 'do' Sundays when making the decision.

Other info-host reckons they mentioned the date (not day) to both the DP and birthday member. Neither remember this conversation and also have said that this would have been weeks ago and they mightn't' have been mindful to look up whether this was a Sat or a Sun.

Host is upset as birthday member is disappointed and upset and has said they won't attend for the whole day-they were expecting a nice day with their DP and they often have to attend events alone due to LDR and this was going to be a nice day for them, now It's just 'meh'. They're not especially close to anyone else there other than host, and there's a huge age gap with all guests and them too.

Their DP was meant to be doing some of the cooking to give host a break to speak to their friends-which is a small issue.

So was birthday member wrong to assume and should have asked? Was host wrong to assume birthday member knew the day? Should they have specified and/or thought 'hang on, the DP isn't free on Sundays? Should birthday member have made this clearer? All of the above?😂

This is long but I still feel I haven't included all info...I'll answer anything required though!

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JudgeRudy · 12/07/2023 22:57

Ineedsleepandcoffee · 12/07/2023 22:29

Well you don't organise a party specifically for someone on a day that isn't going to be suitable so it sounds like the host was being unreasonable.

It wasn't specifically for her though. It was for 2 other people, one who she was related to.....but not close enough to be that bothered as does said the party (ie the birthday guests etc)isn't worth the effort if her BF isn't there

familieseh · 12/07/2023 22:58

@GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut yes, you have read it correctly Smile

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familieseh · 12/07/2023 22:59

The BBQ is for the birthday member mentioned, and one other family member, both have birthdays a couple of days apart. Not host's birthday.

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itsmylife7 · 12/07/2023 23:00

Far too confusing for me 😐

JudgeRudy · 12/07/2023 23:00

SideWonder · 12/07/2023 22:42

In fact, if I were the birthday person my first response would be not to attend the BBQ but spend my birthday day with my partner.

Well she can't. He doesn't see her on Sundays.

literalviolence · 12/07/2023 23:00

I don't think the host did anything wrong. I feel for the person in LDR but ultimately when you are in LDR, there are loads of things you can't do together. They should not have assumed the day and should not need spoon feeding to check a date .

Createausername1970 · 12/07/2023 23:00

If I was the birthday family member I would be annoyed. Yes, I shouldn't have assumed it was the Saturday, but the host should have at least checked that the date was ok with me - if I am supposedly one of the reasons for holding the BBQ!

And if the host was expecting DP to share some of the cooking duties, then the host needed to have done it for a day the DP was available.

It's like a parent organising a child's birthday party to suit their own ideas of what would make a nice birthday party, but taking no account of their child's actual likes and preferences.

I think the host got this wrong.

But there would be no real reason for the birthday person not to attend, other than being in a hump about it, as DP has returned home anyway.

shakeitoffshakeacocktail · 12/07/2023 23:01

Pkhsvd · 12/07/2023 22:37

Sounds a bit like the host wanted it the Sunday and didn’t really care that the birthday person wouldn’t want it then so tried to fudge it by not being specific about which day or addressing that their partner wouldn’t be able to go. Really if you’re offering to host a bbq for someone’s birthday it seems odd to arrange it for a day their partner won’t be able to go but as the host I guess they get to go with what’s more convenient for them

This is what I thought.

Host has prioritised someone else over one of the birthday guests

Spirallingdownwards · 12/07/2023 23:01

It's your birthday and you can't have your partner at the BBQ at your parents. Just celebrate with your partner the night before and have a family day the next day.

familieseh · 12/07/2023 23:05

Birthday person is attending, they are just disappointed that it isn't what they expected and said they may attend for a few hours rather than be there all day/night. Host will be busy and they aren't so close to anyone else there who are all a lot older/younger than them and will know other people more.

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Harrysutton · 12/07/2023 23:06

why can’t the partner go home a bit later just this once. Unless they live 12 hours away I can’t see why they have to leave on a Sunday morning for work on a Monday.

JudgeRudy · 12/07/2023 23:06

Just re read. So moany relative is actually one of the birthday people. I still think it was cheeky to assume it was on the Saturday because her BF(?) couldn't come. I'll assume it's not her exact birthday. I'd say that works out well. Do something with BF on the Saturday, spend Sunday with family at relatives BBQ when BF goes home. Can't see the problem. Hosts not a free party thrower. It's not just about the their birthdays, hosts neighbours and friends are coming too.
Or stay away...

Harrysutton · 12/07/2023 23:08

Birthday person is at risk of coming across a bit spoilt.

FixTheBone · 12/07/2023 23:09

Birthday persons 'DP' shoukd have booked the Monday of work for such a crucial event.

SideWonder · 12/07/2023 23:10

They're a minor guest, not a key player.

The person who’s birthday it is, is not a key player? That makes no sense.

familieseh · 12/07/2023 23:11

The birthday person's DP (not a BF) was only coming for the birthday BBQ so isn't coming at all now. Birthday person is still attending, that was never in question, is just disappointed and uncertain about whether they should have double checked the date given host was expecting their DP there and arranged it for a day that they can't attend, or whether host should have come to them and said 'we've decided the Sunday, is that okay?'.

@Harrysutton they really will not ever do that given the length of travel involved, they've tried before and it didn't work for them.

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familieseh · 12/07/2023 23:12

@FixTheBone they also assumed it was on the Saturday, but that's likely birthday person's fault for assuming that in the first place!

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SideWonder · 12/07/2023 23:15

But if you knew that someone was hosting a party to celebrate your birthday, you might reasonably assume that it would be on a day that was good for you.

So the host is unreasonable and quite emotionally blackmailing of the birthday person.

LokiCokey · 12/07/2023 23:16

Harrysutton · 12/07/2023 23:06

why can’t the partner go home a bit later just this once. Unless they live 12 hours away I can’t see why they have to leave on a Sunday morning for work on a Monday.

This is the main thing I took from it too... surely they can travel later in the day this once?

blacknredsweeties · 12/07/2023 23:19

Sounds like birthday girl should plan her own
party.

Confusion101 · 12/07/2023 23:23

birthday family member's friend asked if they could spend some time with them the Saturday of this weekend-birthday family member mentioned the BBQ

So the birthday person was originally happy to spend the day without their DP there, then got upset because the day didn't suit their DP? Organising things for large groups is next to impossible to get a say to suit everyone. This is all a bit of a drama over nothing.

And I also don't understand why the DP can't hang around for a little bit on the Sunday for the day that's in it.

If someone says "does the weekend of X date suit you for a Bbq?" my first question is always going to be "the Sat or the Sun????"

Dotcheck · 12/07/2023 23:24

Jesus.

The host is kind enough to host for family gatherings. Part of the reason for this one is to celebrate 2 birthdays. Trying to find a date which suits host, their immediate family, birthday people, plus other key family members would be a nightmare. You can’t expect the host to try and work around a long distance partner too.

Why can’t the partner compromise and go home a bit later? Or take a Monday off.
They are being childish

Harrysutton · 12/07/2023 23:27

How far do they travel? If it’s under 6 hours they’re being unreasonable and as a one off could definitely do it if they wanted to.

familieseh · 12/07/2023 23:30

@Confusion101 no-it was always to be an event together for them. That had been discussed and the DP was to do some of the cooking. The DP was involved in a face to face conversation regarding which weekend would be best, with the host some weeks ago when they were asked if they'd mind doing some of the cooking.
Friend only mentioned because this is how birthday person learned it was to be on the Sunday-by saying something like 'Oh is it okay if Sam comes this Saturday?'
Birthday guest has said they were wrong to assume, but also the host never specified the day to them but did to everyone else, and host knew the DP can't do Sundays.

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familieseh · 12/07/2023 23:31

@Harrysutton about three hours. I wonder if that's a bugbear too

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