To show you what the police actually face in the course of their duty

[baggiesmalls]

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This is already in the public domain .

I see a lot of negative comments about police and some of it , rightly so.

But this sums up for me what the job is about .
And why normal everyday men and women , like me , join the police service .

The bravery shown here is commendable .

Thanks for taking the time to watch .

I think we need a complete shake up in our whole policing system. Still puzzles me why in such a small country we have individual police forces. Surely a federal approach would be more appropriate and enable less pockets of institutional corruption.

Does that mean they should be free from criticism then? Free from being expected to sort out the institutional misogyny and racism? We just let them do whatever the fuck they want without question because we might want to call them if someone had a knife to our throats (I love the idea of someone holding a knife to my throat but letting me still call the police, I guess my attacker would have no faith in them either 😂)

I was sexually abused between the ages of 3 and 8, it’s nice to know that if my dad had recorded it, you, a police officer, would describe my experience as “kiddy porn”. You’ve reassured me that I was 100% right to never go to the police about it, so thank you for that at least.

I totally agree, and this thread is prime evidence of that. People who either love a good bandwagon or cannot wait to push their own anti-Police agenda for whatever reason. It’s embarrassing. Mumsnet has certain time honoured themes and this is one of them. It’s like an echo chamber of ‘LTB’ type posts without any nuance whatsoever.

Because you then get everyone dealing with punch ups on a Saturday night in the cities, drug dealing in cities.
The rural areas get one copper per 100 square miles so can't get to emergencies when there is one.

I would suggest you take a closer look at those professions.

There was a report on misogyny and racism in the fire service last year.

The NHS has many scandals involving abuse, sexual assault and exploitation, murder (biggest mass murderer was a doctor) and staff report highlights bullying and racist cultures.

Social care has plenty of examples of institutional abuse and bullying.

If you haven’t seen you are not looking.

Piss off with your bollocks sob story you've trotted out now you're getting your arse handed to you.
As a mixed race school DSL you can stick your 'kiddy porn' and 'coloured' terminology up your arse.
Stop denying people's experiences, and that fact you changed the way you speak and use disgusting phrases to 'fit in' shows your lack of character and integrity and I wouldn't trust you to hold any of your colleagues to account.

Is this an actual flounce or one like all your others? Where you come back? And do the same shit?

I live in a ‘ex pit town’ on the North, you are bloody awful and I hope you aren’t policing the people you have such distain for, near me.

You do realise there’s more to these places than just being ‘ex-pit’.

I think the people are safe. In some stories OP is purely WFH, in others she doesn’t even work for the police anymore.

Having read the whole thread now, the agressive ‘the police are heros, you plebs need us’ and the ‘I’ve never seen a bad officer in all my years’ are as much of the problem as the actual wrong ‘uns.

Time after time the idea that it’s one lone officer who does wrong so no one can criticise the whole institution is trotted out. The complacency and arrogance is what empowers the abusive ones.

I was with my ex through 3 different teams, in 3 different divisions and the culture in every single one was misogynistic, racist and toxic, to the extent that even he - all of these things - was depressed by it and ended up on a MH break at one stage.

The one thing he said to me that chilled me was he would never work in the firearms division as the things he’d heard and seen working alongside those officers would make him fear for his mental and physical safety. And this was long before Wayne Cousins and from a man who revelled in the ways he was allowed to openly use his power to abuse members of the public.

I don’t think he’s unusually unlucky to have worked with different teams of very problematic people, when every officer on here has never known a bad apple. I think it’s more likely that problematic behaviour and attitudes are so endemic as to not even be noticeable unless it’s someone really seriously stepping out of line.

How the fuck do posts like this remain on this site?

No one I know in an ex out town uses the term ‘kiddy porn.’ Claiming you had to use offensive terms to fit in? Jesus wept.

and swearing isn’t a northern thing.

and my Dad was a police officer up here. He retired a whole ago. He doesn’t trust the police at all. He always knew it was bad but believed if the good one left we would be screwed. But unfortunately that happened anyway and it got worse.

My brother joined and left because of how sexist, racist, violent and poor the police service is. Not a great place for a mixed race person.

If you haven’t come across a bad police officer, you are part of the problem and one yourself (hence thinking kiddie porn is an acceptable term at all), aren’t in the police at all or incredibly dim.

@BodegaSushi unfortunately police officers who do desk work do deal with the public. But, I agree, chances are this poster is chatting shit. I forgot that at Christmas she said she was being medically discharged.

I have no idea why MNHQ keep allowing this one poster be offensive about so many groups of people just so they can rant while they are pissed.

There are 10s of '000s of excellent Police officers but that should not take away from the '000s who let the force down.

Burying your heads in the sand and pretending the Police in the UK don't have very serious (& unresolved) problems is just the other side of the coin that says they are all racist pigs etc etc.

Yet again, under funding over the last decade or so has wrecked public confidence in the Police, not least the closure of so many 'stations, making the police feel remote from the communities they serve.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Actually it’s not funny that people this ridiculous and up themselves are serving in our forces and think they do a good job around the Northern thickos

Slightly off track, but has the meaning of the phrase "bad apple" changed? It seems to be used to mean "it's only one bad apple" i.e. a one off.

I've always known it to mean "one bad apple spoils the barrel", from when apples used to get stored for winter, people would carefully check that all the apples were "good" i.e. not bruised/rotten because that would spread to the other apples.

I first read it in an Enid Blyton story, where a boy was asked by his mum to check the apples as he was putting them into winter storage; he thought it would be ok to let one bad one in, and all the apples ended up spoiled.

I appreciate though that Enid Blyton might not be the best primary source!

What does "one bad apple" mean in today's use?

Look, there are good police and there are bad police. As individuals. But there IS a well documented culture problem in the police which has made many of us distrust them as a whole. It would be nice if rather than getting ultra defensive or challenging people to change careers, police on here would say “I do the best job I can and don’t get sucked into that toxic culture, it I recognise it’s there and it needs to change”. But they don’t. They just cry saying “I can’t believe people think I’m a racist!”

Wow!! Seriously?

They think they’re entitled to the public’s respect and awe and are angry that they’re no longer being given it so are demanding it, rather than actually trying to regain the public’s trust.

I really don't know if you're being deliberately offensive here, or genuinely don't realise how you sound or how skewed your views are.

I live and work in Northern ex-mining villages, and work in a role where I am dealing with all manner of the public. I don't use offensive terms in order to fit in. If someone I was working with used the term "kiddy porn", I wouldn't use the term myself.

Funnily enough northerners from pit villages don't all say "eh up" and swear. But even if they did, it wouldn't mean that I would too. I swear fine in my private life, but would rarely swear at work because it's not professional.

Honestly, you seem to see Northerners as "other", and it's a bit off.

Totally baffled by the idea you don't think police go through safeguarding checks.
My partner is way more thoroughly checked then I am, as a teacher. They also checked out his parents, step parents and me.

Very odd that OP sees all Northerners as working class. I live in the North in one of the most MC places in England.

I am laughing at the thought OP being like Julio Geordio to fit in with da kidz though

How many sex offenders are teachers?

The way too many police react to criticism tells you everything you need to know about them. Say anything bad about any of them and most of them are clamouring but NAPALT. Same rules apply, as the bad ones don't wear any extra badges, it's right for people to wonder if the one they're dealing with is one of the racist, misogynist, corrupt or dishonest ones.

Yes it matters in other professions and people would be equally suspicious of any organisation that closed ranks like this and minimised it's criminal behaviour.

The police have known for years about this sudden slew of convictions. The organisation as a whole needs to accept it's lost the confidence of much of the public and needs to accept that's going to take some time to heal, if they're bothered about healing it at all

It's because of all the fucking weirdos that have been working for them for decades despite being known wronguns

Not quite. It isn’t about them being ‘criminals’ or otherwise, it is more a set of attitudes which firstly in the most extreme cases allow criminal behaviour to go unchallenged (the Sarah Everard murder perhaps being the most extreme) but on a more low level sort of way inherent values which have led to huge problems and things being ‘shaken up’ except they never are.

Both the defensive ‘the police are HEROES’ (and I feel like I had a pisshead following me around with a phone slurring watch the video) and the ‘the police are arseholes’ are dogmatic and not helpful. I know two serving policemen who I know are good eggs. I also know I’ve been fortunate enough never to have had a bad encounter with the police although admittedly and luckily that’s fairly limited. But I’m not black and I’ve never reported a sexual crime, to be blunt. I honestly don’t know how anyone can start whataboutery because of Shipman or whoever, unless we seriously think the NHS is routinely hiring serial killers. However, many of us have a similar view with the NHS: individuals in it are good, as a system, it’s breaking down. In that case it’s more to do with funding and layers of complex bureaucracy than attitudes within but still illustrates the point. You can be against a system without thinking everyone in that system is some sort of evil fucker.

Sorry do you honestly believe that there aren't any sexual offenders who are teachers?!

I have personally known of a few, just in my area. I know my partner has dealt with many. Doesn't mean they think all teachers are or that our children shouldn't go to a school.