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Huw Edwards named as BBC presenter!

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Amuseaboosh · 12/07/2023 18:04

I'm actually shocked.

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LimePi · 13/07/2023 09:03

Countdowntowinter · 13/07/2023 08:55

Surprised at how many rush to his defence and excuse his behaviour. Men in powerful positions have always used that with junior staff, much younger people. People struggle to speak out until someone else does and then often the floodgates open and others who have experienced unwelcome attention or suggestions feel they might actually be listened to. However, they still have the vast number of people who think nothing has been done wrong to contend with and who judge them for 'ruining poor HW life'. He is the only person to blame for his actions, no one else.

Have you heard of Only Fans? Prostitution? This is not abuse of power, this is transactional behaviour. He bought some sex pictures/videos - not from someone he worked with or had power over. Police investigated; nothing illegal happened, meaning he bought them from 18 year old consenting adult. Age of consent is there for a reason.

if someone sent his nude videos to Brad Pitt (not even for free!) after being asked, is this grooming because of his fame? Come on.

dimorphism · 13/07/2023 09:04

Well said @SerafinasGoose

'Mental health' is not an excuse for predatory behaviour

As for the 'witch hunt', I'm not interested in salacious gossip. I couldn't have cared less about Phillip Schofield, and I couldn't care less about Huw Edwards. The issue is bigger than this: it's about establishment protection of male sexual proclivities, seemingly at the cost of everything else. It's about questioning why that's the case.
And it's vital those questions are asked, and that they continue to be asked. And if you believe the 'right' people to do this are not notorious tabloid rags like The Sun - then ask yourself: why are they seemingly the only option left for shining sunlight on these predatory men because everyone else is busy rugsweeping, denying and excusing their behaviour?

I know plenty of people with mental health problems, literally none of them have had highly inappropriate coercive interactions with people young enough to be their grandchildren. Or sexually harassed colleagues at work.

The BBC is reporting on this and seemingly having absolutely no concern that these colleagues felt they would be silenced prior to this. The BBC knew a complaint was made in MAY, they've had MONTHS to have an internal investigation.

Why is anyone paid 450k in the BBC? It's obscene. It's more than the Prime Minister and Chief Medical Officer (combined possibly) FFS. It makes men into Gods who cannot be challenged, with quite obvious consequences for the vulnerable who stray into their paths.

pendleflyer · 13/07/2023 09:04

KeepyUppy122 · 13/07/2023 09:00

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/scotsnet/4674216-why-did-the-school-uniform-post-get-deleted

Here's just one reference to the school uniform troll. The threads are usually deleted quickly as many long-term MNetters know them and report.

So no my days aren't fevered. Excellent attempt at trying to be patronising and and shut someone down though. Sadly I've been on MN too long for that to happen 😄

>>The threads are usually deleted quickly as manylong-term MNetters know them and report.
well clearly there is a vast army behind the scenes I was totally unaware of. All sounds very fevered to me.
I think I hear the bugle calling you to report for duty.

Whatonearth2021 · 13/07/2023 09:08

Emotionalsupportviper · 13/07/2023 08:00

Sadly, I have absolutely no faith in the police nowadays.

At one time if they had said, "Nothing untoward" I would have believed them. Nowadays I just think "Really? Or is this another cover-up?" I don't think I'm the only person with no confidence in them.

What’s the alternative? Trial by social media?

Whatonearth2021 · 13/07/2023 09:11

CaroleSinger · 13/07/2023 08:44

You don't think passing something like this off under the umbrella of mental health smacks a bit of desperation at all?

Read the statement. She confirmed he was the person in question and said he would respond when well as he is currently in hospital. She did not confirm or deny any of his actions. IMO it was an act of great dignity and an attempt to protect her family. How anyone could criticise her for it is beyond me.

IClaudine · 13/07/2023 09:14

Iwantcakeeveryday · 13/07/2023 09:00

@LimePi have you missed the fact there are 5 other allegations and the BBC itself has seen threatening messages? He's a powerful wealthy man in his 60's using young people for sexual gratification while being employed by a publicly funded broadcaster. It doesn't matter its not illegal, although I am shocked that it isn't illegal to buy sexual photos from someone under 18, we are still talking about young people here and someone abusing their position.

It is illegal to buy sexual photos from a person under 18. The police have said HE did nothing illegal. So that means he didn't buy photos from an under 18. Even the Scum is backtracking from that aspect of the story.

watermeloncougar · 13/07/2023 09:17

@Iwantcakeeveryday no one has actually claimed that photos were taken or bought when the young person was 17. It's entirely possible (if the story is true) that contact was first made when the person was 17 and photos were taken when they were older. The Sun has worded things very carefully to not actually make any claims of illegality.
They're far more interested in just destroying peoples' lives while conveniently hiding the frankly contemptuous behaviour of our right wing govt!

PrincessofWellies · 13/07/2023 09:18

Whatonearth2021 · 13/07/2023 09:08

What’s the alternative? Trial by social media?

Trial by social media has been going on for a few years now. That is absolutely what we have and it's appalling. Particularly when victims of it turn out to be entirely innocent, but even when they're not, the ability to achieve a fair trial is severely compromised. It needs dealing with by legislation.

StefanosHill · 13/07/2023 09:19

LimePi · 13/07/2023 09:03

Have you heard of Only Fans? Prostitution? This is not abuse of power, this is transactional behaviour. He bought some sex pictures/videos - not from someone he worked with or had power over. Police investigated; nothing illegal happened, meaning he bought them from 18 year old consenting adult. Age of consent is there for a reason.

if someone sent his nude videos to Brad Pitt (not even for free!) after being asked, is this grooming because of his fame? Come on.

How do you know who he paid?

SerafinasGoose · 13/07/2023 09:20

Whatonearth2021 · 13/07/2023 09:08

What’s the alternative? Trial by social media?

Or rugsweeping it as society has always done, leaving these men free to pursue their proclivities with complete impunity.

It's not as though the entertainment industry, law enforcement agencies and political classes don't have a long track record of this culture of silence and enablement.

So we're left with an unappealing Morton's Fork choice between vigilante justice and no justice at all.

Whereas the answer really should be: 'neither of the above'. It's for men to stop indulging in their proclivities in harmful ways, and for the establishment to act swiftly against them when they do.

So far, even #MeToo hasn't managed to achieve the impossible in forcing their hand into doing this.

You have to ask why. Who stands to gain, and what precisely do they stand to gain, by keeping the status quo exactly as it is?

Unclecornelius · 13/07/2023 09:21

Imo HE should go and work for The Sun, they’d be well matched!
Just careful enough not to be illegal but absolute sleazes all of them.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 13/07/2023 09:22

watermeloncougar · 13/07/2023 09:17

@Iwantcakeeveryday no one has actually claimed that photos were taken or bought when the young person was 17. It's entirely possible (if the story is true) that contact was first made when the person was 17 and photos were taken when they were older. The Sun has worded things very carefully to not actually make any claims of illegality.
They're far more interested in just destroying peoples' lives while conveniently hiding the frankly contemptuous behaviour of our right wing govt!

People need to stop using this excuse for everything, same things said with Schofield. Both things are worthy of reporting. The shitty right wing government is not the only thing to talk about is it, it's something people say to deflect these days. The only person who has destroyed Huw's life, is Huw.

Whatonearth2021 · 13/07/2023 09:23

PrincessofWellies · 13/07/2023 09:18

Trial by social media has been going on for a few years now. That is absolutely what we have and it's appalling. Particularly when victims of it turn out to be entirely innocent, but even when they're not, the ability to achieve a fair trial is severely compromised. It needs dealing with by legislation.

Absolutely this. The way that this case has escalated with zero published evidence is terrifying. People believing that any picture they see on Twitter must be real. Pieces of information being repeated often so “it must be true”. Utterly horrendous . While undoubtedly the police are far from perfect I would prefer a structured rule of law over the modern day equivalent of the Salem witch trials any day of the week.

pendleflyer · 13/07/2023 09:23

IClaudine · 13/07/2023 09:14

It is illegal to buy sexual photos from a person under 18. The police have said HE did nothing illegal. So that means he didn't buy photos from an under 18. Even the Scum is backtracking from that aspect of the story.

yep the scum is scuttling back to its lair pretty damn comically fast after the SM feeding frenzy it has unleashed.
I wish Huw and family all the best - hope they can come through this in some way.
agree that his wife seems to have handled pretty well - possibly calculating that in the meantime the frenzied rabble will find something else to slaver over. Oh how they must mourn the death of its former partner, the NotW, though they have managed to recreate it online - little new under the sun - just fly under a different flag.

MowingTheTerf · 13/07/2023 09:25

Papers exist to generate a profit for themselves, they print the most salacious headlines going. Sex scandals sell, and we're now in Summer silly season where there is generally a lack of news.

Is this all part of a conspiracy to cover up the government? Unlikely as the papers have lapped up every bit of lockdown birthday cake to help sell papers. I am bored to death hearing about lockdown parties, but as soon as it isn't in the news for one day people talk about conspiracy theories! The same goes for cost of living and Ukraine, in the news everyday, and nothing new to warrant any major headlines.

Rival media organisations will obviously target each other, and we've got The Sun trying to attack the BBC

BloodyHellKen · 13/07/2023 09:25

Have you heard of Only Fans? Prostitution? This is not abuse of power, this is transactional behaviour. He bought some sex pictures/videos - not from someone he worked with or had power over.

I am amazed at the people on here who think prostitution is all fine and dandy. In my previous line of work I met quite a few prostitutes. None of them were happy people, all had mental health problems and the vast majority were victims of abuse, alcoholics or drug addicts.

Anyone who chooses to pay for sex/sexual services holds the power.

Whatonearth2021 · 13/07/2023 09:25

NatashaDancing · 13/07/2023 08:14

of course we don’t know the whole story. What we do know is a 61 year old man seeked out very young adults to have sex with. That’s not in dispute. And whilst it may be legal, I find it repugnant and so do a lot of others.

I find it repugnant.

But we don’t even know that. The only person who has confirmed meeting him stated they had a cup of tea.

I’m not defending him - it’s highly likely that grim behaviour happened in some way or other . But so much is being said and exaggerated that there is simply no proof of.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/07/2023 09:26

anythinginapinch · 12/07/2023 18:11

Good god he's not been proven to have done anything

Don't spoil it, anythinginapinch; on SM someone being named is as good as guilty to many

He may be or he may not - I obviously don't know - but about the best of this so far is that at least nobody else can be "put in the frame"

Rhondaa · 13/07/2023 09:27

'I wish Huw and family all the best - hope they can come through this in some way. agree that his wife seems to have handled pretty well'

Confused

God, the enablers and apologists are absolutely unbelievable.

Why didnt they deny all allegations instead of him scuttling off into hiding leaving his poor wife to face the media.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 13/07/2023 09:27

Whatonearth2021 · 13/07/2023 09:25

But we don’t even know that. The only person who has confirmed meeting him stated they had a cup of tea.

I’m not defending him - it’s highly likely that grim behaviour happened in some way or other . But so much is being said and exaggerated that there is simply no proof of.

The BBC confirmed they saw threatening messages he sent one young person and that it was his phone number.

StefanosHill · 13/07/2023 09:28

Iwantcakeeveryday · 13/07/2023 09:22

People need to stop using this excuse for everything, same things said with Schofield. Both things are worthy of reporting. The shitty right wing government is not the only thing to talk about is it, it's something people say to deflect these days. The only person who has destroyed Huw's life, is Huw.

It’s tired by now. All these posts claiming they want to talk about something else. Other threads exist, surely they’re rammed by now given how many prefer the other topic.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 13/07/2023 09:28

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/07/2023 09:26

Don't spoil it, anythinginapinch; on SM someone being named is as good as guilty to many

He may be or he may not - I obviously don't know - but about the best of this so far is that at least nobody else can be "put in the frame"

The BBC themselves confirmed he sent threatening messages to a young person., not the child of the parents who complained but another person.

Bubbylana · 13/07/2023 09:29

Why are you shocked? Did you know him personally?
Im not shocked and I really dont care. I would be shocked if it was someone I knew but just a bloke that reads the news why does anybody care. Also its been speculated that it was him for days.

BloodyHellKen · 13/07/2023 09:30

very young adults, young people etc etc, young men I think you all mean 😂

In the entire history of sex scandals the press have never been so euphemistic about the sex of the people involved. Lets face it if he had been hooking up with young women certain sections of the press and Twitterati would have been vilifying them by now for tempting 'the poor, innocent man' away from his wife and family with their feminine wiles.

Whatonearth2021 · 13/07/2023 09:32

Iwantcakeeveryday · 13/07/2023 09:27

The BBC confirmed they saw threatening messages he sent one young person and that it was his phone number.

Like I said, horrible behaviour occurred. But threatening messages do not equate to seeing out young people to have sex with as the PP said. Unless I’m mistaken no one has claimed to have had sex with him.

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