Huw Edwards named as BBC presenter!

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I'm actually shocked.

Exactly. It's depressing how easily people have fallen for it.

I know she was being sarcastic 😀.
She was also making an inappropriate comparison in a particularly crass way.

I'm not sure why you're asking, but approximately 12 years.

Agreed! I am so shocked at the number of people rushing to excuse this predator.

Either we have been infiltrated by a bunch of MRAs or they are people whose bar for male behaviour is so low, they would be happy to see their own 17 year old son groomed by a 61 year old.

The World has actually gone mad at this point.

of course we don’t know the whole story. What we do know is a 61 year old man seeked out very young adults to have sex with. That’s not in dispute. And whilst it may be legal, I find it repugnant and so do a lot of others.

I find it repugnant.

Have The Sun destroyed his life?
Can’t stand that newspaper but if they hadn’t taken the ‘story’ on it would have come from another heinous tabloid.
HE made really poor decisions and he’s paying the price.
Brits are renowned for building someone up and then tearing them down.

However, their being appalling doesn't make other people's behaviour less so.

Imo, the deaths of thousands of innocent people during Covid, due to the actions of the government like the seeding of care homes with infected people from hospitals, is in a different league to someone looking at photos.

I remember Samantha Fox and Linda Lusardi among others, being pin up girls in the Sun every day; the Sun presumably didn’t see that as exploitation or objectification of women then?

MRAs or it’s political hence all the what about GO deflection posts

My thoughts too.

What’s the difference betweenHuw Edwards doing this and someone buying pics or videos on only fans site or similar?

it Certainly gives me the ick but I’m struggling to know how to feel about this.

He is a very, very public figure, and like it or not, he's held to a certain level of accountability to act with integrity and dignity.

Further, he reports the news! He's seen the fallout of this happening to other public figures, and yet he's made choices that have landed him and his fanoly where they are. He has 5 children!!!

If there was NOTHING to this situation, he simply would not have commented, and the news that would have been reported is how someone tried to blackmail him with lies and extort money. He would have been very public about it and been lauded as a hero for speaking out.

What is MRA ?

BBC News has confirmed that the second person, who came forward to them rather than the Sun, received messages pressuring to meet up which they were trying to turn down, then threats when they threatened to name him. They verified the messages and confirmed that they came from Edward's phone.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66165766

So there's at least one confirmed case of him chasing after after a young adult (23) and trying to coerce them.

More people coming out with allegations and stories doesn't mean that they're jumping on a bandwagon - generally it means that they finally feel that they're in a position to tell their stories with less chance of retaliation, and that they realise that they're not the only ones.

From the looks of it, Huw Edwards has made a habit of chasing after young people in their late teens/early 20s - sometimes with unwanted advances (sometimes against colleagues), sometimes as consensual encounters, sometimes engaging with sex workers. He's a powerful man engaging in dodgy behaviour, and it should absolutely be called out, not shoved under carpet with a a sympathetic, "Oh, poor man, he's got the sads".

My mother suffered from catastrophic mental health issues and depression throughout her life. I suffer with depression. Funnily enough, she nor I never felt compelled to pursue people barely out of childhood, or to start paying for teenage sex workers as a result...

The tabloids have always been sex obsessed and hypocritical. That doesn't make Only Fans empowering or mean older rich men paying teenagers (of either sex) for naked pictures isn't sleazy.

I think it's quite different. OF etc are subscription sites where you pay money to access images and videos that the individual has decided to put up for public consumption. The money is also quite low, you pay maybe a tenner a month to access their images and videos.

When you take it off-platform and start communicating directly and directing a young person to take photos or videos of a certain kind that you will then pay obscene amounts of money for, it's a power shift. It's less about the quick gratification of a dirty pic, as you can pay for that or get it free anywhere online, but it's about having power over someone and turning a product/consumer anonymous relationship into something else.

his behaviour is abhorrent but the timing of this is a coincidence given it's the same time as the Johnson covid WhatsApp messages and Osborne's wedding email

Have I missed something overnight? Has it been confirmed or suggested that he had sex with any of the young people or that he suggested sex to any of the young people involved?

His poor wife having to do this.

define "lecherous perv" please.
seen any instances of lecherous pervery on mumsnet, which always strikes me as being a good representation of "all human life".

seen any instances of lecherous pervery on mumsnet, which always strikes me as being a good representation of "all human life"?
question mark added.

Oh, we've been infiltrated by MRAs alright. That happened some time ago.

And there's no nuance on these boards (again an established MRA tactic) between criminal behaviour and behaviour likely to bring your employer into disrepute: for which people can and are disciplined and fired.

I'm a lecturer. My students are adults. A relationship with a student (the thought is positively GRIM to me) would still represent a huge imbalance of power and therefore an exploitation; it would be a breach of contract and a breach of trust, and I would rightly be dismissed from my post if I attempted to engage in it.

Likewise, Andrew Windsor, whatever else he has or hasn't done, was an unelected diplomat of this country and was photographed hanging out with convicted sex traffickers. That alone makes him unfit for post.

'Mental health' is not an excuse for predatory behaviour. Mental illness/depression doesn't automatically turn men into sexual predators if that tendency wasn't there to start with. I'm sure that in some patients bizarre behaviour is a symptom, but it's really unhelpful to assume that connection.

As for the 'witch hunt', I'm not interested in salacious gossip. I couldn't have cared less about Phillip Schofield, and I couldn't care less about Huw Edwards. The issue is bigger than this: it's about establishment protection of male sexual proclivities, seemingly at the cost of everything else. It's about questioning why that's the case.

And it's vital those questions are asked, and that they continue to be asked. And if you believe the 'right' people to do this are not notorious tabloid rags like The Sun - then ask yourself: why are they seemingly the only option left for shining sunlight on these predatory men because everyone else is busy rugsweeping, denying and excusing their behaviour?

Oh, yes. Check out the sex board, and the numerous threads complaining about it.

Of course nobody needs another witch hunt but maybe someone needs to explain to his poor naive wife in all her that having a mental illness doesn't make heterosexual men suddenly have an urge to masturbate over another man repeatedly in exchange for ridiculous amounts of money.

I'm almost minded of the Little Britain sketch of the MP who keeps getting caught up in compromising situations with other men and his wife smiles awkwardly at the cameras while he reads a pre written speech about how he accidentally fell over and his penis accidentally entered his young aide from behind.

Sometimes it's better to just stop digging...

As yet the claims are alleged.

He and his wife will have been advised not to comment or apologise, nor to state what - if anything - happened,

It's an alleged incident which is still being investigated by his employer and which the police has stated, yesterday, has no criminal basis at this point.