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Huw Edwards named as BBC presenter!

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Amuseaboosh · 12/07/2023 18:04

I'm actually shocked.

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ferretface · 13/07/2023 08:37

Feel sorry for his wife having to deal with the fallout from his thrills.

If you don't want to be caught up in a sex scandal then don't have a sex life that's likely to provoke scandal, particularly if you're a public figure. That's the cost of being famous. 🤷🏼‍♀️ I don't know why all these famous men seem to find it quite so difficult and then cry when it ends up in the media.

KeepyUppy122 · 13/07/2023 08:37

SerafinasGoose · 13/07/2023 08:34

Oh, yes. Check out the sex board, and the numerous threads complaining about it.

And the many, many MNetters who complained at the time about the sex board being brought in as it would obviously attract an undesirable element.

When we already had the frequent piss, shit and school uniform pervs.

But MN presumably wanted the traffic.

KPops22 · 13/07/2023 08:40

CaroleSinger · 13/07/2023 08:35

Of course nobody needs another witch hunt but maybe someone needs to explain to his poor naive wife in all her that having a mental illness doesn't make heterosexual men suddenly have an urge to masturbate over another man repeatedly in exchange for ridiculous amounts of money.

I'm almost minded of the Little Britain sketch of the MP who keeps getting caught up in compromising situations with other men and his wife smiles awkwardly at the cameras while he reads a pre written speech about how he accidentally fell over and his penis accidentally entered his young aide from behind.

Sometimes it's better to just stop digging...

I don't think she is digging and I don't for one minute think she is naive or needs anything explained to her. Her whole life is shattered and she had to do this. I said "poor woman" and hope she now doesn't get pulled into the gossip that ensues.

CaroleSinger · 13/07/2023 08:41

Qilin · 13/07/2023 08:36

As yet the claims are alleged.

He and his wife will have been advised not to comment or apologise, nor to state what - if anything - happened,

It's an alleged incident which is still being investigated by his employer and which the police has stated, yesterday, has no criminal basis at this point.

But she has commented. At length. In what appears to be a weak attempt to pass his behaviour off as just another one of those mental health things that all men do. It would have been far better to say absolutely nothing than use mental illness to explain this away.

MrsPapadopolis · 13/07/2023 08:42

Allelbowsandtoes · 13/07/2023 08:08

I'm not sure why you're asking, but approximately 12 years.

And that qualifies you to make such sweeping generalisations about HE? Have you been privy to his Case Notes by any chance?

And what's the 'normal person' you refer to ? Isn't HE a 'normal person'?

If you work in Mental Health that's an incredibly unprofessional thing to say.

CaroleSinger · 13/07/2023 08:44

KPops22 · 13/07/2023 08:40

I don't think she is digging and I don't for one minute think she is naive or needs anything explained to her. Her whole life is shattered and she had to do this. I said "poor woman" and hope she now doesn't get pulled into the gossip that ensues.

You don't think passing something like this off under the umbrella of mental health smacks a bit of desperation at all?

deciduouspants · 13/07/2023 08:47

@Charlize43 Only in the crazy world you appear to inhabit would an employer
be held responsible for how an employee spends their remuneration.

Please advise how your request for a refund is received.

pendleflyer · 13/07/2023 08:47

SerafinasGoose · 13/07/2023 08:34

Oh, yes. Check out the sex board, and the numerous threads complaining about it.

well that's a good half or well over half of humanity condemned as well then.

TizerorFizz · 13/07/2023 08:48

At least the BBC has come out swinging against the Sun. As it should. The Sun strongly hinted at criminality and that was wrong. No criminal activity took place. So possible libel action upcoming. It’s probably best for posters to stop the wild criminal activity allegations, eg grooming. It clearly is not that or the police would be taking it further. Two police forces have looked at it now.

Huw Edwards appears to have acted irresponsibly and not befitting his position in the bbc. It has brought them into disrepute and his job would seem doomed, from what we know. As it should be. However the investigation must be completed and conclusions drawn regarding the BBCs actions and those of its employee. They will no doubt get evidence from other employees.

Allelbowsandtoes · 13/07/2023 08:51

MrsPapadopolis · 13/07/2023 08:42

And that qualifies you to make such sweeping generalisations about HE? Have you been privy to his Case Notes by any chance?

And what's the 'normal person' you refer to ? Isn't HE a 'normal person'?

If you work in Mental Health that's an incredibly unprofessional thing to say.

Okay, I can word it differently if you like.
In my professional experience it would be unlikely for someone with that level of wealth and fame to be detained to an NHS acute ward. Further, if he has made an attempt on his life (which is purely speculation) it's unlikely he would be detained under a section two if he is capacitous and consenting to an informal admission, which I imagine he would be (although of course I don't know this, much like other posters don't know that he made an attempt. We're all speculating here because we haven't seen his case notes, as you rightly point out).
I'm not saying that he doesn't have depression, or that he doesn't need inpatient treatment. I'm saying that I'd be surprised I'd he'd been admitted under the Mental Health Act and even more surprised if he's in an NHS ward.

CrackerAndPudding · 13/07/2023 08:52

Where is everyone reading that his behaviour is being explained away by his mental health struggles? I've only seen the wife's statement where she states his existing mental health issues have worsened, he's receiving in patient care and will respond once his condition improves.

Basically no denial, admission or explanation but a holding statement on why he's not responded so far. Has something else been released or is there a tabloid undertone now making suggestions?

pendleflyer · 13/07/2023 08:52

KeepyUppy122 · 13/07/2023 08:37

And the many, many MNetters who complained at the time about the sex board being brought in as it would obviously attract an undesirable element.

When we already had the frequent piss, shit and school uniform pervs.

But MN presumably wanted the traffic.

>>When we already had the frequent piss, shit and school uniform pervs.

I must be spending too much time in the property bit - have never seen anything that sounds like that in the middle of mumsnet. Your days must be very fevered.

Rhondaa · 13/07/2023 08:52

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Violetparis · 13/07/2023 08:53

I do wonder if influential people like Jon Sopel, Alistair Campbell, Emily Maitliss etc would have the same sympathy and tolerance of an abuse of power if the presenter was someone not in their social circle. Seems to me alot of poweful people are calling out The Sun (I'm no fan) to protect their friend, closing ranks to protect their own as powerful people have always done.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 13/07/2023 08:53

SerafinasGoose · 13/07/2023 08:33

Oh, we've been infiltrated by MRAs alright. That happened some time ago.

And there's no nuance on these boards (again an established MRA tactic) between criminal behaviour and behaviour likely to bring your employer into disrepute: for which people can and are disciplined and fired.

I'm a lecturer. My students are adults. A relationship with a student (the thought is positively GRIM to me) would still represent a huge imbalance of power and therefore an exploitation; it would be a breach of contract and a breach of trust, and I would rightly be dismissed from my post if I attempted to engage in it.

Likewise, Andrew Windsor, whatever else he has or hasn't done, was an unelected diplomat of this country and was photographed hanging out with convicted sex traffickers. That alone makes him unfit for post.

'Mental health' is not an excuse for predatory behaviour. Mental illness/depression doesn't automatically turn men into sexual predators if that tendency wasn't there to start with. I'm sure that in some patients bizarre behaviour is a symptom, but it's really unhelpful to assume that connection.

As for the 'witch hunt', I'm not interested in salacious gossip. I couldn't have cared less about Phillip Schofield, and I couldn't care less about Huw Edwards. The issue is bigger than this: it's about establishment protection of male sexual proclivities, seemingly at the cost of everything else. It's about questioning why that's the case.

And it's vital those questions are asked, and that they continue to be asked. And if you believe the 'right' people to do this are not notorious tabloid rags like The Sun - then ask yourself: why are they seemingly the only option left for shining sunlight on these predatory men because everyone else is busy rugsweeping, denying and excusing their behaviour?

Thank you for this comment, its alarming and scary that so many on a parenting forum are minimIsing and excusing his behaviour. He has actually threatened one of the people concerned and that alone should be enough for everyone here to unequivocally say he is wrong and should be fired. His mental health issues are something for him and his family to deal with and I hope he gets the help. That is separate to the fact he needs to be held accountable for this. The fact only The Sun actually report on this is a reflection of our society that isn't good.

KeepyUppy122 · 13/07/2023 08:53

CaroleSinger · 13/07/2023 08:41

But she has commented. At length. In what appears to be a weak attempt to pass his behaviour off as just another one of those mental health things that all men do. It would have been far better to say absolutely nothing than use mental illness to explain this away.

I think you're possibly reading things that aren't there.

She said he is suffering from a mental illness which has previously been well documented, which is true. That the recent events have made this worse and he's in hospital and will respond to the allegations when well enough to do so.

It's very unfair and factually untrue to suggest the things you've suggested.

Lorrymum · 13/07/2023 08:54

CaroleSinger · 13/07/2023 08:44

You don't think passing something like this off under the umbrella of mental health smacks a bit of desperation at all?

Totally agree. Sorry but "lets play the mental health card" is the desperate cop out of the rich and famous doing the unspeakable.

Turtletumy · 13/07/2023 08:55

TizerorFizz · 13/07/2023 08:48

At least the BBC has come out swinging against the Sun. As it should. The Sun strongly hinted at criminality and that was wrong. No criminal activity took place. So possible libel action upcoming. It’s probably best for posters to stop the wild criminal activity allegations, eg grooming. It clearly is not that or the police would be taking it further. Two police forces have looked at it now.

Huw Edwards appears to have acted irresponsibly and not befitting his position in the bbc. It has brought them into disrepute and his job would seem doomed, from what we know. As it should be. However the investigation must be completed and conclusions drawn regarding the BBCs actions and those of its employee. They will no doubt get evidence from other employees.

Absolutely.

Countdowntowinter · 13/07/2023 08:55

Surprised at how many rush to his defence and excuse his behaviour. Men in powerful positions have always used that with junior staff, much younger people. People struggle to speak out until someone else does and then often the floodgates open and others who have experienced unwelcome attention or suggestions feel they might actually be listened to. However, they still have the vast number of people who think nothing has been done wrong to contend with and who judge them for 'ruining poor HW life'. He is the only person to blame for his actions, no one else.

LimePi · 13/07/2023 08:57

I don’t understand the furore. Have people been not following recent news?

  1. on Monday it turned out that the man in question through his lawyer said that nothing illegal or untoward has happened, and THAT HE TOLD THE SUN the claims were rubbish before the story went to press (ie they knew they are printing rubbish). The Sun somehow chosen not to print his pov when running the story and are in the hot water for it now and have some explaining to do.

  2. the police has investigated and yesterday confirmed that there is no criminal case to answer.

so there was unwise behaviour with a bit of sleaze, and we don’t even know whether his wife minded that (as they might have an open marriage by mutual agreement).

I liked Huw as a presenter, but even before I knew the name this sounded like people jumping to wild conclusions without any information, based on something that the parents said and it looks like The Sun hasn’t investigated anything.

(Parents in turn look to me like they were trying a bit of extortion or making a quick buck here. I mean who talks to the Sun in hope of finding justice? People talk to them because they buy the stories and pay. But even if they are really just concerned parents, this still stands)

Honestly. Does this country has nothing else to worry about?

Hope that there is a case to sue the c*ap out of The Sun too (not that it will teach them anything)

SerafinasGoose · 13/07/2023 09:00

pendleflyer · 13/07/2023 08:47

well that's a good half or well over half of humanity condemned as well then.

You think a good half of humanity are sexual perverts?

Or were you just referring to the male half?

Iwantcakeeveryday · 13/07/2023 09:00

@LimePi have you missed the fact there are 5 other allegations and the BBC itself has seen threatening messages? He's a powerful wealthy man in his 60's using young people for sexual gratification while being employed by a publicly funded broadcaster. It doesn't matter its not illegal, although I am shocked that it isn't illegal to buy sexual photos from someone under 18, we are still talking about young people here and someone abusing their position.

KeepyUppy122 · 13/07/2023 09:00

pendleflyer · 13/07/2023 08:52

>>When we already had the frequent piss, shit and school uniform pervs.

I must be spending too much time in the property bit - have never seen anything that sounds like that in the middle of mumsnet. Your days must be very fevered.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/scotsnet/4674216-why-did-the-school-uniform-post-get-deleted

Here's just one reference to the school uniform troll. The threads are usually deleted quickly as many long-term MNetters know them and report.

So no my days aren't fevered. Excellent attempt at trying to be patronising and and shut someone down though. Sadly I've been on MN too long for that to happen 😄

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MrsPapadopolis · 13/07/2023 09:01

Allelbowsandtoes · 13/07/2023 08:51

Okay, I can word it differently if you like.
In my professional experience it would be unlikely for someone with that level of wealth and fame to be detained to an NHS acute ward. Further, if he has made an attempt on his life (which is purely speculation) it's unlikely he would be detained under a section two if he is capacitous and consenting to an informal admission, which I imagine he would be (although of course I don't know this, much like other posters don't know that he made an attempt. We're all speculating here because we haven't seen his case notes, as you rightly point out).
I'm not saying that he doesn't have depression, or that he doesn't need inpatient treatment. I'm saying that I'd be surprised I'd he'd been admitted under the Mental Health Act and even more surprised if he's in an NHS ward.

A pity that you didn't word it like that the first time.

Wording it the way you did could lead people to say that you weren't a good advert for MH services.

We're all speculating here because we haven't seen his case notes, (as you rightly point out).

No. We aren't all speculating here. Just some of us. In your case a Professional who should know better.

NotOnYourNellies · 13/07/2023 09:02

Feel sad about his MH demons I hope there's no more to come out about him though

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