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Skinny shaming

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Bobski123 · 10/07/2023 20:40

I was doing some moving and handling training for part of my job. The trainer required a volunteer, I offered and she said "Oh no not you, you're far too skinny."
She then chose a larger lady.
I get it's supposed to be some sort of compliment because being thin is 'desirable'.
However if she'd said "Not you, you're far too fat." She'd possibly be out of a job by now.
However it's ok to say the opposite.
I should've responded really.
It's like that meme going around with a picture of Sophia Loren and the caption "I'd rather eat pizza and drink wine than be a size 0."
A few of my colleagues posted it and I just think, yawn. They aren't mutually exclusive, ok, size 0 is very small but the point is you can enjoy pizza, wine whatever and still remain slim. I'm just over it.

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FuckOffTom · 11/07/2023 08:02

Sweetashunni · 11/07/2023 00:12

I suffered a series of personal tragedies as a teen, I was naturally slim but the pain and sorrow made it very hard for me to eat and I became very very thin. I remember a friend frogmarching me to our school canteen and watching over me as I ate a plate of macaroni cheese because she was so worried I was starving myself to death. People made constant comments, including teachers, about how ill I looked and it just made a shit time even worse. I felt very weak and tired and would’ve loved nothing more than to click my fingers and gain a couple of stone but it just wasn’t happening. I really wish people would realise skinny shaming isn’t a backhanded compliment, it can be really hurtful. The Duchess of Cambridge thread the other day was vile and full of nasty little comments which clearly posters felt entitled to make as ‘it’s not as bad this way round’.

Totally agree with this.
As mentioned above, I’ve always been slim and when I am anxious or depressed, I lose my appetite and can’t eat. I then worry about the weight loss which makes me feel worse. And then people comment on it which makes me feel worse.
Youre just trying to get through to day, because you’re having a really tough time and Tracey or whoever from the office is like “you could do with eating more, you’re way too skinny”
And I’m like “yeah thanks Tracey, just dealing with a separation from my emotionally abusive husband but I’ll get on that next”
🤦‍♀️

ShiteRider · 11/07/2023 08:11

Peacoffee · 11/07/2023 07:16

Maybe the reason you get called a cunt isn’t because you are fat…

😂😂😂. Very eloquent

IkeaMeatballGravy · 11/07/2023 08:12

Looks beginning to fade at mid 30s!? That's a sad outlook, have you been made to feel insecure by a certain type of shitty man?

Not at all, when I mean looks, I mean youthful looks. I'm starting to get lines that weren't there before, my chin is starting to sag, pregnancy has left reminders on my body. But I'm embracing the changes, I won't go under the knife or get fillers etc. I'm happy with the way I am.

Sunsetandsunrise · 11/07/2023 08:13

NannyGythaOgg · 10/07/2023 22:45

It is, to me, a bit like white privilege or male privilege. (I have the first but not the second)

When you are white you don't realise the challenges facing non white people

When you are male, you don't realise the challenges women face

When you have only ever been slim you don't realise the challenges overweight people face

I've been slim and I've been very overweight. I've had negative comments when slim but nothing like the judgement and negativity I have got from men, women, medical people and just in general I got when I was big.

It's not nice, none of us has the right to judge others (walk a mile in my shoes) but I can pretty well guarantee that the comments you get are either jealousy or an acknowledgement that you don't have the issues (both living and judging) that overweight people do. Especially those who are very overweight.

Exactly this. I’ve been fat and skinny and it’s a no-brainer about what group gets the most toxicity and negativity which literally impact their life.

chocolatemademefat · 11/07/2023 08:18

Try obesity for a week and tell me being skinny bothers you. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Wobblybobble · 11/07/2023 08:23

People feel like it’s okay because this is more socially aspirational than fat, but it is never okay to comment on someone else’s looks, especially if it’s a negative comment.

One of the most hurtful comments I’ve ever received happened at a public pool when a friend and I took our children together. It went along the lines of, “Wow, you’re like my niece who is also really skinny but doesn’t do much exercise. I guess even skinny people can be flabby and have cellulite!”

Like, what??

snoopysaunt · 11/07/2023 08:24

MrsTerryPratchett · 10/07/2023 20:47

There'll never be a meme saying 'I'd rather live on lettuce and water than be a size 20."

Because the entire weight of the media is set up that way, you don't need memes.

No one should comment but there is massive evidence that thinner people get treated better most of the time. It's all a bit, "my diamond shoes are uncomfortable".

Isn't it more like "my trainers are worn out because I run most days and go to the gym to keep my weight healthy"

I don't care if people want to be fat but don't kid yourself that people who are not generally work at it, except for circumstances where they can't which is obviously different. But because I want to be a size 10 and feel better for it, should I be made to feel that I am the freak?

NomDe · 11/07/2023 08:27

chocolatemademefat · 11/07/2023 08:18

Try obesity for a week and tell me being skinny bothers you. 🤷🏼‍♀️

It’s not about whether being ‘underweight’ bothers someone more than being ‘overweight’ bothers someone else, it’s about the fact that commenting on other people’s bodies is inappropriate and unpleasant, whoever the person is and whatever you think of their body.

Anything else is just legitimising body-shaming in general.

Itsallsostressful · 11/07/2023 08:33

LorraineInSpain · 10/07/2023 21:32

If it was manual handling training, perhaps they needed someone over a certain weight to actually train people to do it properly? I know those of us who were larger were always approached to be evacuation chair “riders” because they needed to make sure that the volunteers could use the chair for anyone who needed it.

So it might have been practical, not “skinny shaming”.

They could have phrased it differently then....something like 'sorry you'd be too light'. That would have been better

snoopysaunt · 11/07/2023 08:36

If you are giving correct manual handling training, your weight should be immaterial surely?

M340 · 11/07/2023 08:40

Peacoffee · 10/07/2023 21:35

God do fat people really think they hold the monopoly on being insulted or having someone be rude about their size?

’bag of bones’
’real men love curves’
’looks like a little boy’
’eat a burger?’
’you must be anorexic’

These are all insulting comments said to purposely be insulting.

Exactly!

Body shaming is body shaming.

Don't be greedy here claiming that being Insulted because you're too fat is worse than being insulted because you're too skinny.

It's probably because most fat people don't want to be fat, so the easy option is to victimise themselves and think it's okay to body shame a skinny person as they have it easier.

Whatever your weight, you shouldn't be body shamed. It's not just for fat people.

Darkmodeison · 11/07/2023 08:41

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It was me that said I was called a bag of bones, honestly how dare you try and undermine how awful it made me feel. I felt like a freak and I still do sometimes, honest to god you have no idea...

NomDe · 11/07/2023 08:46

Darkmodeison · 11/07/2023 08:41

It was me that said I was called a bag of bones, honestly how dare you try and undermine how awful it made me feel. I felt like a freak and I still do sometimes, honest to god you have no idea...

Love how this poster, in the same breath as insisting only fat-shaming is bad, also made a bitchy comment about someone being bigger than they think they are. 🫤

Bobski123 · 11/07/2023 08:46

We are sorry you've suffered fat shaming, it's wrong. But how dare you tell us that we have no right to feel upset about shaming in the other way, and almost implying that we should accept it. Disgusting attitude.

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missingeu · 11/07/2023 08:49

I personally think the trainer should recieve trianing on discrimation and how to correctly address people. Nobody should have negative remarks made about their appearence, end of.

boobot1 · 11/07/2023 09:04

HunterHearstHelmsley · 10/07/2023 21:34

The sizes mentioned aren't fat.

On most women they are.

AllOfThemWitches · 11/07/2023 09:10

*"it's time people stopped pretending that 'skinny shaming' is the same as 'fat shaming.'"

Why is it better?*

Because it's better to be slim than fat. That's been well and truly established.

And anyone implying that a complete stranger is suffering from a severe mental illness such as bulimia, probably isn't quite alright themselves.

AllOfThemWitches · 11/07/2023 09:13

Bobski123 · 11/07/2023 08:46

We are sorry you've suffered fat shaming, it's wrong. But how dare you tell us that we have no right to feel upset about shaming in the other way, and almost implying that we should accept it. Disgusting attitude.

It's a shame you go through life getting so offended by stuff like this. I got told to 'get a bit of meat on my bones' a couple of weeks ago. I'm not remotely underweight and was able to laugh it off.

Darkmodeison · 11/07/2023 09:19

NomDe · 11/07/2023 08:46

Love how this poster, in the same breath as insisting only fat-shaming is bad, also made a bitchy comment about someone being bigger than they think they are. 🫤

Phew, I thought you meant me for a minute, see what you mean now after re reading, yes absolutely correct, they sound delightful don't they 😔

Zipps · 11/07/2023 09:19

The trainer needs speaking to. She shouldn't be commenting on anyone's size.
I'm slim and always have been. Mostly get compliments but I have occasionally had the "You're so skinny, do you ever eat?" Etc horrible comments.
These comments are coming from nasty, unhappy people so fuck them. Can't say I've ever had a comment from a fat person.
I do eat, I do have curves, my body isn't perfect but I'm happy with it and I know how to dress it.

Darkmodeison · 11/07/2023 09:20

AllOfThemWitches · 11/07/2023 09:13

It's a shame you go through life getting so offended by stuff like this. I got told to 'get a bit of meat on my bones' a couple of weeks ago. I'm not remotely underweight and was able to laugh it off.

Yes but when you ARE underweight which I'm fully aware that I am, those words really do sting.

Sweetashunni · 11/07/2023 09:29

Bobski123 · 11/07/2023 08:46

We are sorry you've suffered fat shaming, it's wrong. But how dare you tell us that we have no right to feel upset about shaming in the other way, and almost implying that we should accept it. Disgusting attitude.

It’s all part of a certain mindset that we should normalise ‘overweight’ and make slim people feel like neurotic, joyless fun sponges who do nothing but diet and try to make bigger people look bad. Ok they might look nice but they’re boring and uptight, see? And I may be carrying a few extra pounds (or ‘curves’) but I’m the fun one who actually enjoys life and food.

And these nasty little jibes and personal comments are part of that. Make fun of slim people because ‘it’s not really making fun of them is it’, and when they react and ask you to stop, ‘it’s because they’re uptight, like they are with food’.

And then when they get fed up and make one single remark about obesity, ‘SEE! I told you they were obsessed with weight and look, what a bitch they are’.

we can see what you’re doing.

Floatlikeafeather2 · 11/07/2023 09:35

AllOfThemWitches · 10/07/2023 21:29

I've had similar and I can honestly say, I don't give a flying fuck. You even had to go a bit further and bring their wives' dress sizes up. Weird af.

Out of interest, why did you feel the need to mention their wives' sizes at all? It is weird. Are you trying to make a point about them by shaming their wives? Good lord!

Pinkprescription · 11/07/2023 09:35

I've a BMI of anything between 15 and 30. So I think I have a fair take on this.

When you are slim and fragile looking - people do tend to treat you better - strangers hold open doors, people thought I was younger. lots of compliments even when I was seriously underweight and wearing children's clothes and I'm tall.
But various people made rather snarky comments - no bottom (true), monitored what I ate, it all became rather bitchy.

When I was overweight - definitely more invisible and strangers think they can make remarks like "there's a lot of padding on you", "fatty" and other such original jibes.

It's very dull and unimaginative being publically weight shamed at whatever end of the spectrum. Some people think they are doing you a favour by commenting you should eat more or less.

MisschiefMaker · 11/07/2023 10:14

I'm skinny and tbh I LIKE being skinny. I used to get "are you anorexic?" but not for a long time now, although I am perennially being asked "have you lost weight?" which is slightly annoying because it makes me wonder if they didn't think I was slim last time they met me.

Anyway I can't get worked up about 'skinny shaming'. It's not a real thing. I am technically underweight, based on BMI, and
if people think that means I don't eat pizza then why would I care? I don't eat pizza anyway.

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