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AIBU?

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To feel lazy relaxing at home when DH is here working?

183 replies

Listerntome · 10/07/2023 09:02

Does anyone else feel like this?

I want to be watching box sets, napping and reading books … but I can hear DH working and it makes me feel I should be working myself.

I know it is probably stupid, but just wondering if I’m alone.

YABU - no I never feel like this.

YANBU - me too!

OP posts:
Coralsunset · 10/07/2023 17:05

I totally hear you OP! I used to work 6-midnight and DH would often ask me “what have you been up to today?”

I would never reply “lying on the sofa eating kitkats and watching daytime tv”

In your shoes I would probably go to a friends house and drink tea with them, watching Wimbledon.

dontbejealousofmyartisticflair · 10/07/2023 17:05

I don’t think a few days relaxing are signs of a selfish person (knackered maybe!)

who said it was? As long as you don't expect your full time working partner to do the chores and bring you breakfast in bed and diner on the sofa.

But if you talk about unemployed or retired partners doing nothing but collapse on the sofa watching tv full time, then yuk, how unattractive.

Listerntome · 10/07/2023 17:08

maddening · 10/07/2023 17:05

Well of course you will get different points of view because you asked for that - your opinion is only that - your opinion - no one is obliged to agree with you and there are elements which would colour judgement for others forming their opinions in relation to your question.

Kind of, except it wasn’t so much an opinion as a realisation that a lot of us do feel like we should be doing doing doing all of the time, that in a rare moment of leisure it is wrong to relax especially if someone else continues to work. Which is silly but it shows how ingrained this feeling is!

OP posts:
dontbejealousofmyartisticflair · 10/07/2023 17:13

Listerntome · 10/07/2023 17:08

Kind of, except it wasn’t so much an opinion as a realisation that a lot of us do feel like we should be doing doing doing all of the time, that in a rare moment of leisure it is wrong to relax especially if someone else continues to work. Which is silly but it shows how ingrained this feeling is!

you keep insisting that the only way to "relax" , the only possible "leisure" is to do nothing.

Is it that hard to understand that it's not true for most of us?

GatherlyGal · 10/07/2023 17:15

@dontbejealousofmyartisticflair do you prefer to work to relax?

maddening · 10/07/2023 17:15

Listerntome · 10/07/2023 15:29

Society doesn’t work by demanding that everyone between the ages of 18-68 (is that the current state pension age?) works, much less that they work the same hours and the same shift patterns.

I really, honestly am not wanting to be argumentative here. I’m genuinely surprised so many think that doing something purely for your own pleasure (even if that is just having a nap) is decadent and lazy and unfair to the other person in the relationship.

No but you do need to keep your self fed, watered, housed and dress - how you work that out as a couple or a single person is up to you, but it.is rare to be able to do this without some element of work.

For me, in a couple, I think both should contribute and have free time equally so it would be unfair to be working while my partner did nothing.

Retiring providing you have a sufficient retirement pot to fund your half of the living expenses and providing that was not derived at the expense of the other person, is fine - in my opinion.

Listerntome · 10/07/2023 17:18

Oh no not at all @dontbejealousofmyartisticflair . But one persons doing nothing can be doing something, can’t it? If you’re a poet or a writer or musician anyway (I’m not!)

I know some people do exercise as a relaxation thing, or go for walks and that’s sort of their ‘me time.’ I’m definitely not saying they are wrong, just for me personally today I haven’t done much.

OP posts:
maddening · 10/07/2023 17:20

Listerntome · 10/07/2023 17:08

Kind of, except it wasn’t so much an opinion as a realisation that a lot of us do feel like we should be doing doing doing all of the time, that in a rare moment of leisure it is wrong to relax especially if someone else continues to work. Which is silly but it shows how ingrained this feeling is!

Which is why context is important- a rare moment of relaxation would indicate that this is a rarity- the lack of context means people will ask for that context.

Listerntome · 10/07/2023 17:25

The thread did take on a pretty hostile tone almost from the start though. I’ve tried really hard to keep things reasonably light, as I’m not here for a row but as with a lot of things, peoples posts make you think, not necessarily agree but think. Maybe I’ve been thinking too much today (that’s one reason work can be good for you!) I wouldn’t expect anyone I loved to work to the bone to provide for me but equally I wouldn’t expect anyone I loved to insist I worked until I was exhausted and depressed just so that things were ‘fair’.

OP posts:
maddening · 10/07/2023 17:25

And your op wasn't a realisation on behalf of everyone - it was you having your thought and asking for other people's thoughts (these are opinions)

Listerntome · 10/07/2023 17:28

Of course Smile

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FirstTimeNameChanger · 10/07/2023 17:29

@Listerntome adults work is a put down? Why do you feel that way, it's not intended as such. Yes, sometimes being an adult is boring and you can't watch box sets all day, but there we are. For the majority of adults that's just how it is! Its not a put down, it's just life

sandyhappypeople · 10/07/2023 17:38

Listerntome · 10/07/2023 17:00

@sandyhappypeople to be honest I’m getting the impression here that whatever I say to you will be ‘wrong’ but it really isn’t about being selfless or otherwise.

I don’t know if you’ve ever read that story - think it may have been aesops fable or something - where a man and a boy are leading a donkey and different people pass judgement - some say how silly to all walk when someone could ride, some say the man should ride as he is old, some say the boy should ride as he is young, some say it is animal cruelty to make the donkey carry a grown man and so on! This thread reminds me a bit of that as a lot of the answers boil down to ‘you should be doing this because someone else is.’

Being in a marriage with someone is (usually) a long sort of relationship spanning several decades and it’s not all going to be totally equal all of the time. Illness, retirement, redundancy, old age, caring for kids, caring for elderly parents (if applicable, those last two) can happen at any point and might mean someone is doing ‘more’ but then it often balances out. I don’t think a few days relaxing are signs of a selfish person (knackered maybe!)

It's not wrong to feel the way you do though, that's my whole point. It's subjective.

Of course everyone has got a different answer.. because it's subjective.

If you want people's opinions on a specific set of circumstances (be it yours or anyone else's) you'd be better just laying out what those circumstances are and welcoming the opinions otherwise you'll just get a wide spread of views which are personal to whoever gives it, which is what is happening.

With respect, going on to say you think it's sad that some people choose to live their life differently and get their enjoyment differently to yours comes across as judgmental, when no one is actually judging you, they're just sharing their personal observations into their own lives and what they would do in certain situations.

There is no right or wrong answer here.

dontbejealousofmyartisticflair · 10/07/2023 17:47

GatherlyGal · 10/07/2023 17:15

@dontbejealousofmyartisticflair do you prefer to work to relax?

again, why does it have to be either "work" or "do nothing"?

Ever heard of sport, travel, art, studying, baking...?

And no, I don't find "doing nothing" very relaxing personally. I can't imagine looking back to the week on Friday and think I've only managed to work/ do chores and watch tv.

dontbejealousofmyartisticflair · 10/07/2023 17:51

Listerntome · 10/07/2023 17:18

Oh no not at all @dontbejealousofmyartisticflair . But one persons doing nothing can be doing something, can’t it? If you’re a poet or a writer or musician anyway (I’m not!)

I know some people do exercise as a relaxation thing, or go for walks and that’s sort of their ‘me time.’ I’m definitely not saying they are wrong, just for me personally today I haven’t done much.

well, no, doing nothing is doing nothing. Poet or writer, musician.. they are doing "something", even if it's just a hobby and they don't make a living out of it.

Again, doing nothing "today" is not a big deal if you don't expect your working partner to do everything for you. It's when today becomes every day and you do nothing with your life that it's not appealing.

I can't see anger on this thread, just people who don't agree that it's even possible let alone enjoyable to do nothing in life.

Doje · 10/07/2023 17:52

I sometimes do this but I've had to work on not feeling guilty!

I work part-time, and have Fridays totally off. Sometimes, when all my chores are done I get an hour or so to myself to sit and watch telly. It feels weird, especially as DH is upstairs working away, but I know that come Saturday and Sunday it will be me cooking and planning meals, changing bedclothes and packing up for picnics. It'll also be me loading and unloading the dishwasher.

I'm also working hard on not getting grumpy when I do all those things and DH is sat on his arse! 🤣

pillsthrillsandbellyache · 10/07/2023 17:55

I love nothing more than sitting down with a good book knowing that the house won't fall down around me cos OH will crack on. Doesn't enter my head to feel guilty and it goes the other way too. Weird mindset to have. I remember when I was younger, my father was an early riser (did fuck all once he was up though) and couldn't stand the thought of us still in bed. Imagine thinking you had control over another human beings movements.

burnoutbabe · 10/07/2023 18:12

It's a weird hierarchy of hobbies too.

Watching tv bad
Playing computer games bad
Reading -probably okay
Going to gym -good
Doing art! Marvellous
Volunteering -very good

Probably why people go off to their allotment (then just watch cricket in peace)

dontbejealousofmyartisticflair · 10/07/2023 18:40

burnoutbabe · 10/07/2023 18:12

It's a weird hierarchy of hobbies too.

Watching tv bad
Playing computer games bad
Reading -probably okay
Going to gym -good
Doing art! Marvellous
Volunteering -very good

Probably why people go off to their allotment (then just watch cricket in peace)

in other words, there is wasting your time and achieving nothing

vs actually doing something.

No one has ever wished they'd watch more tv or played more video games or be on MN on their death bed.

burnoutbabe · 10/07/2023 18:45

Don't speak for us all.

I am enjoying having summer off from studying and catching up on playing games.

To be fair I am also only studying for fun so thats probably pointless too. Same as watching sports.

I shall write poems! Far more worthwhile lol

cinnamonfrenchtoast · 10/07/2023 18:47

No one has ever wished they'd watch more tv or played more video games or be on MN on their death bed.

How do you know? Lots of people enjoy doing things like that and wish they had more time to do them.

dontbejealousofmyartisticflair · 10/07/2023 21:33

cinnamonfrenchtoast · 10/07/2023 18:47

No one has ever wished they'd watch more tv or played more video games or be on MN on their death bed.

How do you know? Lots of people enjoy doing things like that and wish they had more time to do them.

Oh yes, I am sure people on their death bed wish they hadn't missed that episode of Love Island 😂

it's a life project to make that Sky and Netflix subscription worthwhile

ironorchids · 10/07/2023 22:24

What on earth are you talking about?

What's the actual situation?

You don't give enough information on what is actually going on, why one of you is working while another isn't for people to actually judge.

Indigotree · 10/07/2023 23:43

I definitely wish I had more time for Zelda!

WandaWonder · 11/07/2023 00:04

ManateeFair · 10/07/2023 11:21

Some weirdly angry responses on this thread from people who seem to be absolutely furious at the notion that some couples might be perfectly happy to do things differently from them.

Some people might have a partner who is more than happy to be the sole breadwinner, or a partner who could give up work but doesn't actually want to. Some people might have enough personal income from pensions or savings or an inheritance or something that means they can contribute to household finances without working.

Not everyone's marriages/partnerships have to be the same. People are all different.

OP, to answer your question, I can see why you might feel guilty but you really don't need to!

if it works then people don't need permission to do it or to choose to feel guilty