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To think this is revolting?

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Namechange1000035 · 09/07/2023 22:48

Just had this conversation with my husband. For context, things are dire between us, he's been on the sofa for 6 months because 'it helps him sleep better', and he's onto his 3rd drink of the night. He came into the kitchen with just a towel on and because I was sat down, his belly button was right in my eyeline. It's quite big and round, not quite an inny or an outy.

Me: "I'm fighting the urge to draw an eye on your belly button."

Him: "I'm fighting the urge to grab you, bend you over the table and stab you repeatedly in your brown eye."

AIBU to think he's being revolting?

OP posts:
DogbertMcDogglesworth · 10/07/2023 03:40

Twiglets1 · 10/07/2023 01:15

Mills & Boon are on the line… they want to use his words for a new book they’re writing

Imagine a little old church going lady getting that out of the library?

' oh Derek, she gasped breathlessly as she gazed at his hairy navel, ' I have this terrible urge to get a felt tip and draw an eye around your delightful belly button '

' Oh Tofeelia ' groaned Derek ' you know how that gives me the urge to repeatedly stab your balloon knot until your knees tremble, bend over my darling, for I can contain my desire no longer '

Etc.

Notamum12345577 · 10/07/2023 05:27

RudsyFarmer · 09/07/2023 23:05

I thought ‘stab’ was meaning knife. Did he actually mean anally rape you?!

Anally rape, or saying that he wanted anal sex with her? I suppose it depends on the context or how he said it, which we won’t know unless told.

Notamum12345577 · 10/07/2023 05:31

WhiteFire · 09/07/2023 23:17

I'd hope it wouldn't go down well anywhere.

Objecting to VAWG does not make one a MC pearl clutcher (which I presume you were implying)

I can’t work out what VAWG stands for?

CrazyArmadilloLady · 10/07/2023 05:38

Violence against women and girls.

CrazyArmadilloLady · 10/07/2023 05:40

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 09/07/2023 23:14

This won't go down well with middle class mumsnet, joke or not.

Give me middle class over the alternative any day of the week 🙏

Sunshineishere1988 · 10/07/2023 06:07

He sounds disgusting - i’d be gone if my DH spoke to me like that. Gross.

Fraaahnces · 10/07/2023 06:08

And they say “Romance is dead”….

snufkinhat · 10/07/2023 06:11

TappingTed · 09/07/2023 23:17

You started it. You belittled and insulted him, and there was no need. Clearly there is no functional relationship there any more with him on the sofa etc so why are you even “together”?

What he said was disgusting, yes… but I don’t think either of you are exactly covered in glory from this little exchange.

If you can’t say anything nice…

Really?

OP said something mildly insulting, so her husband basically threatend to rape her. This exchange is not 'tit for tat'.

OP, he's not just being 'revolting' with that comment - he is being abusive. He should not be talking to you like that and I really hope he's not acting on these types of comments. Are you OK?

TheLadyofShalott1 · 10/07/2023 06:41

Unknownunknowns · 10/07/2023 00:58

Omg, I'm so naive! I thought he actually meant stab her in the eye.
Not sure which is worse.
It's an awful way to speak to you, unless it's part of foreplay you enjoy? But it doesn't sound like it.

😳 I must be just as naive as you @Unknownunknowns as I thought he meant a real brown eye, and I also thought that the OP might be one of those rare (but I think lucky) people who have different coloured eyes - I think that one brown eye and one emerald green eye would be amazing! But even though I assumed he was joking (and I just couldn't see what was funny about it), I also thought he meant to stab her brown eye with a real knife. Although I hadn't had a chance to work out why it was her brown eye that annoyed him so much 🤭😂😂

5128gap · 10/07/2023 06:53

If he's coarse, vulgar and a bit thick them I'd not read too much into it, other than maybe ask myself why I had such poor taste in men.
If its out of character for his typically polite self, them I'd imagine it was said as a verbal punch, for shock factor, to demonstrate his anger, and see it as a sign things were even more dire than I'd imagined.

JenWillsiam · 10/07/2023 06:55

Pickitupdear · 09/07/2023 23:10

You often joke to your husband that you’re fighting the urge to anally rape him?

Who said rape? Wanting to have sex doesn’t mean rape.

TheLadyofShalott1 · 10/07/2023 06:55

@Namechange1000035 I'm sorry to ask you such a personal question - but I think I can get away with it as we are all anonymous here 🤞 - but do you and your husband enjoy anal sex as part of your sexual/loving repertoire? I ask because I don't like to think that it was a "joke" threat to anally rape you, but just that he wanted to ravage (I'm thinking about the Mills and Boon reference earlier in this thread) you in a not quite so romantic way?

On what I consider to be a much brighter note, I don't think that the DM will want to steal this thread - I wonder why I have just had the urge to write "worms" after the word thread... and why would my mind be thinking along those lines at 6:52 in the morning?🤔😉

JenWillsiam · 10/07/2023 06:56

Is anal sex something you’ve engaged in before? That he’s expressed as a fantasy? Honestly i don’t see the issue really.

Norestnosanity · 10/07/2023 07:02

arethereanyleftatall · 09/07/2023 23:12

Banter? Anal rape is banter?

You could say that about anything and it would sound miserable.

You could say it about ops line. 'Graffiti? Graffiti is banter?' 'holding someone down and defacing their body is banter?'

Most jokes sound horrible when you pick them apart.

Fwiw I don't like the 'banter' but I don't think it sounds like he's threatening anal rape.

Ollifer · 10/07/2023 07:07

Ew, I don't even mind the occasional bum fun tbh but the phrase stab you in your brown eye is so vomit inducing that I'd be revolted.

I also don't think you were trying to be offensive with your belly button comment - or were you?

Either way, only you know if he's a decent guy and this was just an off comment or whether he's actually a vile pig.

Elephantinasandstorm · 10/07/2023 07:07

JenWillsiam · 10/07/2023 06:55

Who said rape? Wanting to have sex doesn’t mean rape.

I am glad I am not the only one confused about this!

Not particularly sexy at all, but there was no rape suggestion 😶

Megifer · 10/07/2023 07:07

Typical apologists are out i see. Op makes a non-offensive joke, bloke replies with a disgusting offensive comment, yet op started it and is as bad as him.

Have a word with yourselves ffs.

5128gap · 10/07/2023 07:08

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 09/07/2023 23:14

This won't go down well with middle class mumsnet, joke or not.

I'm working class, and I'd appreciate if you didnt imply that we'd all somehow be more tolerant of thick as a brick men who think unsolicited, crude sexual references pass as wit. We don't all go about behaving like the cast of Shameless, gawaffing helplessly at a man in a towel talking about anal sex using the language of a 12 year old boy.

bladebladebla1 · 10/07/2023 07:11

readbooksdrinktea · 09/07/2023 23:13

I'm so, so glad I'm single. My god, there are some awful men out there.

Yeah, luckily a small amount

ErmWhatever · 10/07/2023 07:13

5128gap · 10/07/2023 06:53

If he's coarse, vulgar and a bit thick them I'd not read too much into it, other than maybe ask myself why I had such poor taste in men.
If its out of character for his typically polite self, them I'd imagine it was said as a verbal punch, for shock factor, to demonstrate his anger, and see it as a sign things were even more dire than I'd imagined.

Pretty much this.

Guineapigwoes · 10/07/2023 07:15

Mills and boon have gone right down hill these days

CrazyArmadilloLady · 10/07/2023 07:18

Elephantinasandstorm · 10/07/2023 07:07

I am glad I am not the only one confused about this!

Not particularly sexy at all, but there was no rape suggestion 😶

‘Fighting the urge to repeatedly stab you in the brown eye’, is how men usually let you know they want to have sex?

Sorry for your shit sex life.

IOnlycreatedaccountforthispost · 10/07/2023 07:32

A joke is only a joke if both parties think it funny. OP this sounds pretty hypocritical. You have literally said your relationship is in a very bad way and he is sleeping in the sofa. I therefore don’t understand why people think you told an innocent little joke. Sounds like you made a pretty passive aggressive comment to your husband to get a reaction from him and then he came back with an even shittier comeback. What did you think would happen; you’d both have a good laugh and he’d say good one 🤷‍♀️

5128gap · 10/07/2023 07:41

IOnlycreatedaccountforthispost · 10/07/2023 07:32

A joke is only a joke if both parties think it funny. OP this sounds pretty hypocritical. You have literally said your relationship is in a very bad way and he is sleeping in the sofa. I therefore don’t understand why people think you told an innocent little joke. Sounds like you made a pretty passive aggressive comment to your husband to get a reaction from him and then he came back with an even shittier comeback. What did you think would happen; you’d both have a good laugh and he’d say good one 🤷‍♀️

What a neat summary of the difference between the sexes.
Woman's 'joke' has the potential to cause a man embarrassment. Man responds with 'joke' threat to subjugate her and carry out a violent sexual act.

Elephantinasandstorm · 10/07/2023 07:42

CrazyArmadilloLady · 10/07/2023 07:18

‘Fighting the urge to repeatedly stab you in the brown eye’, is how men usually let you know they want to have sex?

Sorry for your shit sex life.

No need to feel sorry for me. Based on bitterness levels on MN, I am one of those doing fine.
I also have no idea where you got that's usually how I get asked, but ok, go with whatever floats your boat.

Point is, that was nothing to do with rape.