Men’s Asylum seeker accommodation next to school

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I feel quite ashamed by how I feel but want to know if it warranted.

There has been an announcement that a 500 men’s asylum seeker accommodation is going ahead against councils decision (it was overruled on a national scale). This is Stafford btw

It will be butted up to (no gap) to my DCs school and opposite a nursery. It’s not because they are asylum seekers that concerns me. It’s the fact it’a 500 men unit, with many with no known history / criminal records/ mental state.

I work over an hour away and currently my daughter who is 12 walks to the bus etc, she also does after school clubs then walks home alone. Most parents at the school are talking about moving their kids but in reality and logistically that’s not going to happen.

I genuinely feel scared for her safety. AIBU?
Its the location of it that’s wrong and the fact the council stated issues and concerns so refused it but got overruled by the government…

Talk to people in Skegness. YANBU

Bored, sexually frustrated men, en masse, eyeing up girls, trama yes, not a wise idea, men are mean together.
Never a wise idea

I wanted to add that many are from a culture that don't respect women, especially western woman.. but assumed I'd have everyone jump down my throat 🫣

I wouldn’t be happy about it, mainly because what people forget to consider is the cultural and legal differences between the countries they may have come from and here. These men will have grown up with a completely different education on what is socially and legally acceptable. An example of this is with Albanians where the legal age of consent is 14. These men are not being socialised widely to understand and accept these differences and this in my opinion is where the risks are created from.

Yanbu.

I'd try and move her if at all possible.

Anyone claiming racism needs to give their heads a wobble. Absolutely wouldn't be an issue with 500 women and children.

How disgusting people calling you racist. You are right to be concerned. Unfortunately, this is the new normal. I really hope you can look after your girl. I would be mortified and angry.

There are women and children, but there are political decisions being made about where single males are places vs families (which demographic do you think is placed in areas that may have historically voted BNP?). Placing women and children puts enormous pressure on local schools so it’s a case of being careful what you wish for.

Serco are useless but local councils and police have been pretty on top of monitoring hotels not a million miles away. Nobody wants a repeat of Knowsley on their patch.

And yes, the police headquarters (not “traffic police”) and the barracks are both very nearby.

None are being placed until 2024 so I wouldn’t rush into a decision OP.

This is from the council’s submission to the public enquiry and suggests it is not single males being housed there, but a mixed use of single male, single female and families. I can make assumptions as to why the single male narrative has taken off but it doesn’t appear to be based on anything.

https://www.staffordbc.gov.uk/sites/default/files/cme/DocMan1/Public-Inquiry/F6%20Council%20Closing%20Submissions%20final.pdf

Any group of men from any country will have quite a significant number that are awful with a few who would if they could harm or exploit women.

There have been issues at the local High school with asylum seekers harassing girls. It’s not hearsay I live round the corner from the school and about 20 minutes from the two hotels that have 400 men in them.

The people that I know that have the luxury of appearing welcoming live nowhere near any of these hotels.

We have enough of our own men who are dodgy, don’t need any more.

I think the area in question is a Tory constituency, contacting them would be next to useless.

It’s ok to have concern for your child’s welfare and safety against the unknown. It’s not racist or elitist to think that 500 unvetted people, most likely with trauma and mh, could pose a risk to children in some capacity. sometimes horrible things happen as we saw in France. Why are people so quick to shout down Op simply for being worried for her child.

Can't you go to your MP? Maybe it can be overturned and instead all men they could give the place to families or women only.

I find it odd that the vast majority of these asylum seekers are young men. There are hardly any women and children. These blokes are happy to leave them behind. They are economic migrants. They aren’t fleeing war etc at all.

This is what I personally find most bizarre about the whole asylum-seeker situation, and really struggle to reconcile - the fact that it's almost exclusively men, leaving their wives and children behind.

If it is economic, I could understand it a lot more - sending the men ahead to establish a better life in uncertain/challenging circumstances, before everything is ready for the rest of the family to come and join them; but if they are genuinely fleeing war, persecution, terror or other intolerable conditions - as the concept of 'asylum seeker' would strongly suggest - you do have to wonder what their true motives are in happily abandoning their women and children, who will obviously be immeasurably more vulnerable than they are in the first place - and then even more so without their husband/father in the picture.

@LauraNicolaides what crimes are they likely going to be victims of? Who are the perpetrators to be?

I agree.

Makes me laugh when people imagine that the authorities care. The council doesn't care enough to put up a proper fight, literally no one in power cares about you or your child.

It's not very welcoming is it. I'd have thought 30 in one building was enough- how are they going to be treated as individuals when there's a small village of them in one building.

It's ridiculous that they're not allowed to work, especially at a time when there's a shortage of people to do unskilled/low skilled jobs in many areas.

But I daresay that if they were, there'd be people crying complaining that they're "coming over here and taking our jobs".

If its not good enough for students why is it good enough for asylum seekers

Yes. Ordinary people get accused of NIMBYism but these things never are built in the backyards of wealthy, influential people.

If "bullying woke liberals" "dominate" this country @JaneyGee , how do you explain the fact that we've had Tories in charge for 13 years?

The right has managed to shift the Overton window so far that having compassion for people in desperate straits has been reduced to being "woke". This country is becoming less tolerant and more brutal by the day.

I've never worked asylum but I've worked homeless shelters.

Large groups of men housed like this is awful. I've walked through prisons and felt safe. The hostels and shelters were awful.

Large groups of bored angry men are terrifying.

Some very naive posters shouting racism here.

What happened re asylum seekers in France?

I wouldn’t like it, regardless of where the men are from.

OP have you had a chat with the school? would they not be able to formally object on safeguarding grounds?

General number of asylum seekers haven’t increased, method of travel has.

This is a Tory made crisis, from which they are siphoning £££ and providing a bogey man for their base, who tend to believe it’s the fault of Labour/liberals.

500 men in one building sounds awful for all concerned. 500 men with nothing to do all day, miserable for them and a disaster for the community.

Government must get these things turned around quicker. If they are economic migrants, they want to work. We need people to work...Sort their cases out much quicker and if they're entitled to stay let them work.

I think some of the Eastern African men have been or are at danger of being forced/kidnapped into the army. the youth may be escaping becoming child soldiers.

For some others they may be facing persecution for being gay, political views (having/not having them), rejecting local religion or just wanting to escape war/conflict.

So basically victims of state or local militia perpetrators.

Either way, this isn’t the OPs concern, the govt needs to sort the Home Office so it is functional again to avoid these situations.