Chrissy Teigen surrogacy

[HermioneKipper]

Just announced a 4th baby via a surrogate.

Its just so breathtakingly entitled to buy a woman’s body - especially when you already have 3 children?!

No regard for the safety of the surrogate’s body or thought for the baby who would be ripped from their mother at birth.

These people sicken me

So you just assume I’m white?

Its not about one single woman either - it’s about all women and that they’re being exploited into taking enormous risks with their bodies by rich people.

As well as the needs of the baby, who will have bonded with their mother.

...with the words "it's never too late to be a mother" - if you are wealthy I suppose.

Also 'A beautiful little blessing has chosen me to be her mother." Ummm no I don't think she did.

I had my twins at 28 weeks and they were taken from me at birth and in to special care. I really hate these threads where they focus on the baby being ‘ripped’ from the mother at birth and it causes them emotional problems. It doesn’t. The Doctors

it’s very upsetting to people with premature/Ill babies at birth to have Anti surrogacy people say this.

And that is a horrible thing to have happened to you and them but couldn’t be helped if they were unwell.

Surrogacy is done with that being the explicit goal. To take the baby away from their mother. That should only be done as a last resort

Im sure you wouldn’t have picked for that to happen to your babies.

I had my twins at 28 weeks and they were taken from me at birth and in to special care. I really hate these threads where they focus on the baby being ‘ripped’ from the mother at birth and it causes them emotional problems. It doesn’t. The Doctors

it’s very upsetting to people with premature/Ill babies at birth to have Anti surrogacy people say this.

But they had you there as soon as you were able, I'm guessing - your voice, your heartbeat, your smell, your touch - and you were there for them, you didn't just disappear forever out of their lives. Plus, it was necessary, because the most important thing was to make sure they were healthy and looked-after. It is very good news that you don't think they have any long-term effects, but in an ideal world, it wouldn't have happened like that. You allowed it to happen because you were rightly prioritising their most urgent needs - you wouldn't have felt the same, I assume, if there had been no reason at all for them to be taken away.

Hermione is right - there's an enormous difference between courageously making a choice in your child's best interests, and deliberately setting up a situation where a - "your" - child experiences a profound and avoidable loss, simply because you want it.

I read a story this week about a couple who had used a surrogate and the baby was found to have disabilities at the 20 week scan. The couple requested a termination. The surrogate refused.

This is exactly why surrogacy shouldn’t be allowed. There are too many conflicting rights.

I read this week that 1 in 5 women are left with bowel incontinence following birth.
Birth injuries are hushed up.
It seems horrifically entitled to expect someone to risk their life and possibly be left with life long injuries so you can have a baby.
There may be small cases where all is well but there's too many risks of exploitation and harm so it shouldn't be allowed.
All this relentlessly positive media coverage normalises it and makes it easier to coerce women into it, held responsible for somebody else's happiness. It's too open to abuse.

You were with your babies. You didn’t disappear. They were poorly and got medical care. It’s not the same thing.

I mean - so many celebrities do it it’s almost normal now … can’t get too fat, for the gram you see ;-) . I don’t like CT to begin with so I’m biased - the way she spoke to Courtney when she was a child is absolutely horrific.

I was in the same boat ,it's not the same thing at all. You were there with them.

Surrogacy is messed up. How desperate would you have to be to farm out babies.

It’s the trend

about 30 years ago it was adopting babies from China, then a black baby from Africa (never north Africa) now it’s surrogate babies

we all need to accept we can’t always have what we have always wanted it’s hard it’s painful but humans should never be commodities

I have differing thoughts about surrogacy depending on how i look at it. BUT this is my main concern.
10yrs ago we started to foster (not babies) and the more I learn about neuro development, in the womb, post natal and the scars this can leave on a child the more i question it. I'm not saying it's never right, or babies will never form attachments etc but it definitely does not sit right with me. At no point is surrogacy about the child getting a better life x

On the prostitution/it's something that people will believe is not exploitative when middle class people do it in the same numbers - it's already kind of happening, and obviously it's very different from an addiction fuelled necessity and a pimp but so many women are doing onlyFans nowadays as a side job or some even becoming very very wealthy from it and choosing it openly as a valid career option that it's definitely now being done by less vulnerable people in some form gaining popularity

Not sure surrogacy would become as normalised and cross over one day but there absolutely are not badly off middle class women who do choose to be surrogates - because every person including the one person I know of personally has always been a white middle class fairly stable woman with a supportive family- the that's life type magazines have had the odd "I chose to be a surrogate" story and that's the profile of who they post with obligatory photos etc. perhaps it's a minority and more financially desperate women do get exploited than those women but it does happen

No child actually can consent to the life they're going to lead in utero - surrogate or otherwise- just getting pregnant naturally and managing the whole thing yourself doesn't mean they will have a wonderful life. You'd hope so, but however a baby arrives they can't consent to what challenges they will or won't face

Is there an age limit at which selling human beings becomes unacceptable?

I think it's been a problem for a while, just celebs are being more open about it now. I remember when I started fertility treatment about 15 years ago, my consultant saying that she was running into real problems with patients who had seen celebs having babies well into their forties and just assumed they'd be able to do the same. She said 'believe me, these celebrities are not using their own eggs or having the babies'. I really worry about this narrative that Naomi Campbell etc. are peddling, it's not helpful!

This is very bad. No excuse.

Exactly or IVF. Why is it ok for some people to conceive "unnaturally" but for some it's not. It's very hypocritical and judgemental. Yes different methods, but all the same driver - people wanting to have a child

It's not about how "natural" it is. The problem is giving people the right to rent out women's bodies and to buy and sell babies.

Oh a bunch of whiners on here for sure. She had to have surgery after her pregnancy with Jack and they told her she would likely not get pregnant again. When they did the egg harvest from her they implanted a couple in her and in the surrogate at the same time. She got pregnant and the pregnancy held. The surrogates did not but the surrogate decided to try again. I see nothing in these comments about her husband. This was a joint decision.

I like her. She is sassy and doesn't give a hoot what people think.

Surrogates are well paid -think $5,000 a month. And not just for the months of pregnancy but for a decent recovery time. They undergo physical and mental health tests.

Or abortions!

$5000 a month is not well paid. Not for a job requiring the use of your body 24 hours a day for the best part of a year and which can leave you with permanent injuries or worse, anyway.

5000 dollars a month equates to about 50k per pregnancy

True it's not much money if you work it out hour by hour but should a woman know she has fairly enjoyable easy pregnancies from experience- she is obviously more likely to find surrogacy attractive as other than being pregnant she can be a stay at home mum etc which perhaps she couldn't afford otherwise. I don't think it is realistic to imagine surrogate mothers have had difficult pregnancies previously and still opted to do it - ofc it can happen in any pregnancy but it's less likely if a woman has had easy previous ones

A woman doing a few surrogacy's whilst being a stay at home mother could set her up for life financially over a few years- obv not in the uk with it being expenses only although it can be having your bills paid

It's a piss poor amount of money for someone to rent out their body for the best part of a year, especially when the people paying them are people like Chrissy Teigen and John Legend, who could afford to pay a lot more.

Anyone who thinks this is a lot of money is, by definition, not privileged.