Chrissy Teigen surrogacy

[HermioneKipper]

Just announced a 4th baby via a surrogate.

Its just so breathtakingly entitled to buy a woman’s body - especially when you already have 3 children?!

No regard for the safety of the surrogate’s body or thought for the baby who would be ripped from their mother at birth.

These people sicken me

In struggle to believe that surrogacy isn't exploitive in some shape or form in most situations. Which is why I am, generally, opposed to it.

Yes I feel the same about surrogacy as I do about prostitution. I'll believe that it's all down to free will and it's a woman's right to choose to do it if she so wishes once I see wealthy women doing it in the saw numbers that poorer women are!

Yes because surrogacy is ideal. Pregnancy for 9 months and the injuries that can often come from it is ideal. I wouldn’t expect engagement and only insults from someone with this weak viewpoint.

That makes a lot of sense, thank you.

Have you actually read her post?

Sorry but what did you expect her to do? Say oh no dw keep it I'm having my own....?

Maybe stop the surrogacy when she became pregnant? She would have been 4 months pregnant when the surrogate was implanted. I mean, what the actual fuck? It’s psychopathic to go ahead in those circumstances. The fact is that she wanted “sort of twins” so cancelled one surrogate but not the other.

I feel so sorry for both of those kids - so confusing for them.

That said, I wonder how many of the mumsnetters who are livid about surrogacy stories, also bleat on about pro choice and how a "woman should be able to choose what to do with her body".

That's because they are 'bleating' about different things @SaltedButty

Surrogacy is an example of commodifying women - that means making women's bodies available to buy.
Many women think reducing women to consumable goods is bad.

Abortion is an example of giving women autonomy - that means they get to make decisions concerning their own bodies.
Many women think bodily autonomy for women is good.

And for clarity, just because it's a woman making a decision doesn't make it a feminist act.

This with bells on. It really feels like women and men farming out the difficult bit and just taking the baby home afterwards.

I do like Chrissy and felt so sorry for her after her son died however.... I've always wanted 4 babies doesn't feel reason enough for surrogacy.

And yet, they never do!

Apologies - I read it in a red rage!

Chrissy is an arsehole and I'm genuinely surprised she still has a following on social media. She's not somebody I would be a surrogate for, put it that way.
I suppose having immense amounts of money helps to convince people!
I do find it disturbing that it seems to be the "go to" option with celebrities now. Nobody is stupid enough to believe all of the people using surrogates in Hollywood are experiencing fertility issues.

Not to mention the babies which are abandoned by the commissioning parents because they aren't "perfect".

And very few women are really told the medical and psychological risks of causing a child for 9 months and then having to hand that baby over to someone you barely know.

No worries, I feel the same!

Damn, that didn't reply properly - was to @Emotionalsupportviper .

What @Changeforachange said.
@SaltedButty, there is a serious debate to be had here. Not sure the word "bleat" has a place in that debate.

Is it? Forced adoption where the baby is removed by social services might be. Adoption where the baby is voluntarily relinquished at birth is surely about the mother not wanting to raise the baby but also not wanting/being too late to have an abortion?

But the whole process of finding the relinquished baby new parents will still absolutely be centred on the child's needs, not those of the prospective adoptive parents.

Do you feel that distressed about
bottle fed babies? 😧

Yes, but as far as I know if you give a child up for adoption you don't get to nominate a random parent/couple who you want to adopt your baby. (In-family adoptions are slightly different but AFAIK still have to be approved by social services). Once you have relinquished your rights and responsibilities, the process is taken over by people whose sole priority is the wellbeing of the child, and who are extremely careful and rigorous about choosing and checking the adoptive parents. You don't get to pass your child to the highest bidder.

And the parents who raise the child born by surrogate will presumably also focus on the child’s needs? I’m not sure where I stand on surrogacy but some of the double standards of these threads are amazing. Women can do what they want with their bodies - unless other white middle class saviour women don’t agree and decide they are being exploited.

Do you feel that distressed about
bottle fed babies? 😧

Do you imagine that bottle-fed babies don't get comfort or reassurance from being held and fed by the only familiar person in the world?

@adviceneeded1990 "Women can do what they want with their bodies - unless other white middle class saviour women don’t agree and decide they are being exploited"

No. Women can do what they want with their bodies-so long as they are able to give full consent and are not being exploited. Nothing to do with "white, middle class,saviour women."

No. I’d also assume the new parents of the child
born by surrogate were going to feed it. And for those women who can’t or didn’t want to breast feed I’d rethink the rooting for a nipple comment. As it’s a good way of making bottle feeding Mum’s feel shit and like they couldn’t provide what baby was rooting for.

Sorry but I disagree. Mumsnet is full of people with a saviour attitude. Luckily there are also plenty of kind and sensible posts that break through. But personally I have a massive problem with women deciding for other women what exploitation looks like. That’s not anyone else’s call.